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Bitcoin & cyptocurrencies

halsey02

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This is highly speculative, wild, not regulated or guaranteed, it takes seconds to wipe out all your holdings; as fast as a blink of your eyes. You have no recourse. I have been monitoring bitcoins for some time already, one's holding of bitcoins in on-line "wallets' can be easily hacked & stolen; like the recent case & there were many others. It is up to each individual who want to take this kind of risks!
 

nayr69sg

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my uncle say he don't buy things at low price to sell but to use.

Still garang guni! His house must have all the old CRT TVs! Lol! What else? Old computers running Windows 3.1?

All the things people dowan liao he take. And still have to buy! Wah lau eh! How dumb is that?

Give me free I also dowan!

Your uncle stupid like shit!
 

sweetiepie

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Still garang guni! His house must have all the old CRT TVs! Lol! What else? Old computers running Windows 3.1?

All the things people dowan liao he take. And still have to buy! Wah lau eh! How dumb is that?

Give me free I also dowan!

Your uncle stupid like shit!
my uncle say you are wrong. he say nowadays stupid sinkie like to commit self inflicted losing traits e.g today buy a huaiwei mate 10 by borrowing money then next day or few days later resell due to cash tight or dislike it. he say he always aim at this type of loser lol.
 

Porfirio Rubirosa

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Read last week one prominent local banker giving some wise advice on bitcoins and general investment as well. He said the moment the taxi driver and aunty/uncle started talking about bitcoins, the red flags had come out!!
 

ChanRasjid

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This bitcoin is a con market. The total daily volume of bitfinex is USD 1.3 billion this moment. How is this accomplished?

I recently read a thread in bitcointalk.org where a person asked how to buy/sell USD 1 million of bitcoin. The various answers received were that it cannot be done in reality at any of these con exchanges! The value is too high. I think no sane person would deposit USD 1 million at any of these damned exchanges. But I would not hesitate to deposit this 1 million in one of our SG brokers to buy at our stock exchange simply because ours is strictly regulated - we have real spot quotes.

So how do they get a daily volumn of 1.3 billion from petty transactions?

I think this crash is just simply vertical up must be followed by a vertical down.

Chan Rasjid.
 

gatehousethetinkertailor

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eatshitndie

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This bitcoin is a con market. The total daily volume of bitfinex is USD 1.3 billion this moment. How is this accomplished?

I recently read a thread in bitcointalk.org where a person asked how to buy/sell USD 1 million of bitcoin. The various answers received were that it cannot be done in reality at any of these con exchanges! The value is too high. I think no sane person would deposit USD 1 million at any of these damned exchanges. But I would not hesitate to deposit this 1 million in one of our SG brokers to buy at our stock exchange simply because ours is strictly regulated - we have real spot quotes.

So how do they get a daily volumn of 1.3 billion from petty transactions?

I think this crash is just simply vertical up must be followed by a vertical down.

Chan Rasjid.
you wish to read this. down to 9,639 as this is posted.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/15/r...person-likely-drove-bitcoin-from-150-to-1000/

Researchers find that one person likely drove Bitcoin from $150 to $1,000
Posted yesterday by John Biggs (@johnbiggs)
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Researchers Neil Gandal, JT Hamrick, Tyler Moore, and Tali Oberman have written a fascinating paper on Bitcoin price manipulation. Entitled “Price Manipulation in the Bitcoin Ecosystem” and appearing in the recent issue of the Journal of Monetary Economics the paper describes to what degree the Bitcoin ecosystem is controlled by bad actors.

To many it’s been obvious that the Bitcoin markets are, at the very least, being manipulated by one or two big players. “This paper identifies and analyzes the impact of suspicious trading activity on the Mt. Gox Bitcoin currency exchange, in which approximately 600,000 bitcoins (BTC) valued at $188 million were fraudulently acquired,” the researchers wrote. “During both periods, the USD-BTC exchange rate rose by an average of four percent on days when suspicious trades took place, compared to a slight decline on days without suspicious activity. Based on rigorous analysis with extensive robustness checks, the paper demonstrates that the suspicious trading activity likely caused the unprecedented spike in the USD-BTC exchange rate in late 2013, when the rate jumped from around $150 to more than $1,000 in two months.”

The team found that many instances of price manipulation happened simply because the market was very thin for various cryptocurrencies including early Bitcoin. “Despite the huge increase in market capitalization, similar to the bitcoin market in 2013 (the period examined), markets for these other cryptocurrencies are very thin. The number of cryptocurrencies has increased from approximately 80 during the period examined to 843 today! Many of these markets are thin and subject to price manipulation.”

The manipulation happened primarily via two bots, Markus and Willy, that seemed to be performing valid trades but did not actually own the bitcoin they were using. During the Mt. Gox hack a number of these bots were able to create fake trades and make off with millions while manipulating the price of BTC.

The publicly reported trading volume at Mt. Gox included the fraudulent transactions, thereby signaling to the market that heavy trading activity was taking place. Indeed, the paper later shows that even if the fraudulent activity is set aside, average trading volume on all major exchanges trading bitcoins and USD was much higher on days the bots were active. The associated increase in “non-bot” trading was, of course, profitable for Mt. Gox, since it collected transaction fees.

But the Willy Bot likely served another purpose as well. A theory, initially espoused in a Reddit post shortly after Mt. Gox’s collapse (Anonymous, 2014b), is that hackers stole a huge number (approximately 650,000) of bitcoins from Mt. Gox in June 2011 and that the exchange owner Mark Karpales took extraordinary steps to cover up the loss for several years.

The bottom line is simple: if Bitcoin wants to be taken seriously it probably shouldn’t be this easy or legal to manipulate the markets. While decentralization is supposed to replace regulation it’s clear that there is still a way to go before it can be truly taken seriously. “As mainstream finance invests in cryptocurrency assets and as countries take steps toward legalizing bitcoin as a payment system (as Japan did in April 2017), it is important to understand how susceptible cryptocurrency markets are to manipulation. Our study provides a first examination,” write the researchers.
 

shiokalingam

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This is highly speculative, wild, not regulated or guaranteed, it takes seconds to wipe out all your holdings; as fast as a blink of your eyes. You have no recourse. I have been monitoring bitcoins for some time already, one's holding of bitcoins in on-line "wallets' can be easily hacked & stolen; like the recent case & there were many others. It is up to each individual who want to take this kind of risks!

Yesterday evening 17/1 many sad faces at downtown financial district.

Today will see them selling sgx cover losses.
 

eatshitndie

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while dow climbs to a record 26,055, bitcoin descends to 9,869 with a further 12% drop after a report of it being manipulated by a few sinister syndicates. stupid sinkies who bought in at a frenzy when it was high...listening to bozos here who says it's solid... huat ah!
 

eatshitndie

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the current blockchain technology has limitations and needs to be improved. one that is already mentioned is the long average duration or timestamps between blocks. very challenging as bitcoin block size is limited to only 1mb making it tough to scale in terms of transactions per second and the total number of bitcoins is hardcoded with an asymptote of 21m due to technical limitation in the data structure of the blockchain. with storage type of transaction output being integer-based, the total number of bitcoins is exactly a tad under 21m at 20,999,999.9769. again, the 69 number is omnipresent. :p bitcoin is no longer a stable, scalable, usable currency such as the usd for the masses but has becum a limited resource like rare earth materials or precious metals. and there's fuzzy math, oops i mean cryptography, all buried in here. :wink:

ipv6 and iot implementations are well underway and independent of blockchain. the main issue has to do with isp's handling both ipv4 and ipv6 packets simultaneously on the same network with nat(ting) and for tunneled traffic massive fragmentation occurs with massive reassembly issues, especially ipv6 packets that are jumbo. mucho packet loss and retransmits especially with tcp. udp rocks!

as i've indicated earlier, the bitcoin frenzy is overhyped and is not an alternative to usable currency for mass transactions on a daily basis in billions if not trillions per second. not only is bitcoin flawed (now we learn it can be easily manipulated by knowledgeable criminal syndicates) but also the underlying blockchain technology as in its (flawed) genesis block, data structure, and issues related to hard fucks, oops, i mean forks. you'll see more alternative blockchain tech (e.g. ethereum) being adopted for other applications aside from crypto-currency to either circumvent, improve and or solve the current blockchain bottlenecks.
 

eatshitndie

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Read last week one prominent local banker giving some wise advice on bitcoins and general investment as well. He said the moment the taxi driver and aunty/uncle started talking about bitcoins, the red flags had come out!!
yes, eventually all major 1st world govs will shut poorly managed exchanges down as there's no guarantee of securing these exchanges from determined, gifted, extremely knowledgeable hackers. not to mention some of these hackers are state-sponsored. the word out now is that it is "hackable" by virtue of its exchanges being hacked (a secret hidden from the pubic for almost whole year last year and is now being revealed), and the shitty run among investors is happening. whoever talked it up and posted copious articles admiring its rise previously on both bitcoin as a currency and its underlying blockchain tech is now as quiet as a mouse. bet he'll cum back here when bitcoin regains to wriggle out of the rope that is hanging around his neck. meanwhile must allow him to have more rope to hang himself.
 
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