MINDEF want to buy Lockheed P-3 Orion MPA

[mako65]

Wat will they tink of next? A 2nd-hand aircraft carrier berthing right in front of the naval base? Haha...1st to hve it among our neighbours!

 

[red amoeba]

perhaps they are buying it for use with the US aircraft carriers....u noe...like having the necc hardware for possible plug n play capabilities when the time arise...

partially to ease the burden on US military....

used on its own, it may have limited - or perhaps SAF is spooked by what happened to the S Korean warship - kenna assed by a Soviet-era sub without knowledge and they pretty figured - oh shit, it could happen to us too...and so, buy some anti-sub planes? knee-jerk reaction?

 

[Papsmearer]

Since the US is in the economical dire straits, the S'pore govt is obligated to help the Obama Admin as the US ally! No matter how, the influence of the Americans is strongly felt in the Pacific zone! Frankly, those Lockheeds dun really serve real purpose cos LHL already hve the Awacs! Haha..such a little mound we hve, afew inter-continental ballistics will just sufficient to "vapourise" our existence from planet Earth!

I can tell u exactly what they will be used for, they are pre-positioned US equipment. In the event of conflict, US navy will fly their crews in, the P-3 will be repainted with US Navy colours, and than flown to wherethey are needed by US navy personnel. We just buy the planes and jaga it for them.

 

[Papsmearer]

In the end all are just stupid ideas to squander tax dollars to fund the Evil Ang Moh who exploited us Asians to screw each other buying their useless toys. US Navy can not even deal with Somalian Pirates, French sent their aircraft carrier there to be withdrawn within 24Hrs. These are just waste of money. Pirates town booming due to naval incompetency, they use tiny cheap boats and primitive weapons, huge profits and ULTRA SAFE from the US navy.

Fearful and foolish Asian Govts buy tons of useless Ang Moh Junks to fuck each other, better buy vibrators to fuck own ass than these!

the Leegime is not foolish, paranoid, maybe. But defence contractors like Lockheed are experts when it comes to grafts. The whole defence industry is full of consultants, middlemen, etc, whose plams get greased very well. SOme people in the Leegime are going to be rich brokering this deal to sell these un-needed antiques to the SAF. that is why they are buying it.

 

[Cestbon]

I can tell u exactly what they will be used for, they are pre-positioned US equipment. In the event of conflict, US navy will fly their crews in, the P-3 will be repainted with US Navy colours, and than flown to wherethey are needed by US navy personnel. We just buy the planes and jaga it for them.

Agree, if anything happen USA will paint US air force logo on the plane and use it. We SAF only buy weapon from USA and small contract to EU just to wayang show that SAF is open tender to all.
Malaysia have mix of weapon from USA,EU and Russia.

 

[tanwahtiu]

How can lazy people want to attack their neighbours? (lazy people are quoted in Pommie dictionary). Lazy people can only pay to buy things but when it comes to maintaining them they are simply too lazy to fix it. When come to use them it cannot work anymore.

Singapore shd spend more money renting large lands from Angmoh Aussies in case there is trouble in the regions and learn how to exile its citizens safely.

More money shd be spend buying super big evacuating boats and planes to evacuate their elite citizens (rich ones) within a short time (like evacuting from tusnami waves, not earthquakes) and leave the useless SAF generals, and SAF boys from poor families, in Singapore to defend whatever it is.

Wah lau, already got Fokker 50, still want to buy used P-3s. Buy means buy the frame and engines only. Still need to upgrade them. The Taiwanese already own their own P-3s which they bought recently in 2007. Now they are spending USD$55 million to upgrade each plane. Singapore still has to buy the plane and than upgrade it. sup sup its gonna cost the tax payer $400 million. I say contunue to use the damn Fokker 50s, and save us some money


SINGAPORE, Dec. 17 (UPI) -- Singapore is considering buying up to four U.S. Navy's surplus P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft, Lockheed Martin said.

"They have issued a letter of request to look at P-3s," said Mark Jarvis, Lockheed's director of design and production for P-3 programs.

Singapore, which operates five Fokker 50 maritime patrol aircraft, would pick up the Navy's surplus Orions as they are phased out and replaced by the Boeing 737-based P-8A Poseidon.

Configuration of the aircraft for Singapore is likely to be similar to 12 secondhand Orions being upgraded for delivery to Taiwan beginning in 2012.

In early 2009, Lockheed Martin's Maritime Systems and Sensors Tactical Systems division won a $666 million fixed-price contract for the procurement of phased depot maintenance, structural service life extension and avionics modification on 12 P-3C aircraft for the Taiwanese government.

Despite Lockheed shutting down its P-3C production lines in Burbank, Calif., in 1991, there continues to be demand for revamped versions of the four-engine turboprop maritime patrol aircraft. Modernizations are done at Lockheed's Greenville site in South Carolina.

The first flight of the prototype flew in August 1958 and was based on Lockheed's commercial airliner the L-188 Electra but with structural modifications. These include a bomb bay, a nose radar cone and a long tail extension to house submarine detection systems. Wing hard points also were added to carry missiles.

Power is from four Rolls-Royce Allison T56 turboprops, which give it a top speed of 411 knots, meaning it is comparable to the fastest propeller fighters, or even slow low-bypass turbofan jets such as the A-10 Thunderbolt II or the S-3 Viking.

Similar aircraft to the P-3C include the Soviet Ilyushin Il-38 and the French Breguet Atlantic.

More than 430 P-3s are in use by 17 countries, Lockheed says.

Other countries that have ordered upgrades or which are in discussion with Lockheed include Canada, Norway and Germany, which "is probably our next customer" and whose navy operates eight Orions, Jarvis said. The U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency is also looking at upgrades.

Jarvis said Lockheed is considering, after customer inquiries, the installation of an upgraded version of the T56 engine and using new propellers to improve performance and reliability. "We would look to get into the wind tunnel maybe around the end of next year."

The T56 was developed by the Allison Engine Company for the Lockheed C-130 transport entering production in 1954. It is now produced by Rolls-Royce, which acquired Allison in 1995.

The latest T56 version, the series IV, produces 5,250 shaft horsepower and is used in the Northrop Grumman E-2C+ Hawkeye, Rolls-Royce said. It produces 27 percent more power but uses 13 percent less fuel.

The success of the P-3C life extensions is in contrast to the difficulties that BAe has had in prolonging the life of the jet-powered Nimrod patrol aircraft. The Nimrod was originally built by Hawker Siddeley and based on the Comet passenger aircraft made by de Havilland in the early 1960s.

Cost and technical issues have dogged BAe in its development of the Nimrod MR4A and the U.K. government axed its orders for the plane this fall as part of a major savings program.

 

[Papsmearer]

Agree, if anything happen USA will paint US air force logo on the plane and use it. We SAF only buy weapon from USA and small contract to EU just to wayang show that SAF is open tender to all.
Malaysia have mix of weapon from USA,EU and Russia.

Yes, US will also paint their logos on our F-15s, KC-135, F-16s, etc. All the USAF pilots have to do is strap in and they are off. Maybe some of the gauges in the multifunction screen might confuse them initially due to the singlish wording (e.g. asspeed indicator, otakmeter, ahteefacial holeezhon, ) also cockpit voice warnings will be different e.g. ground proximity warning will be "alamak, lagi low, pull up lah", RWS will be "kanena, got people shoot your backside", sidewinder tone will be a whine instead of a growl.

 

[KuanTi01]

In the end all are just stupid ideas to squander tax dollars to fund the Evil Ang Moh who exploited us Asians to screw each other buying their useless toys. US Navy can not even deal with Somalian Pirates, French sent their aircraft carrier there to be withdrawn within 24Hrs. These are just waste of money. Pirates town booming due to naval incompetency, they use tiny cheap boats and primitive weapons, huge profits and ULTRA SAFE from the US navy.

Fearful and foolish Asian Govts buy tons of useless Ang Moh Junks to fuck each other, better buy vibrators to fuck own ass than these!

You have made a valid point; corny as it is! The Western arms suppliers are true masters in psychological warfare & manipulation. The military hardware and software come next!

 

[halsey02]

Yes, US will also paint their logos on our F-15s, KC-135, F-16s, etc. All the USAF pilots have to do is strap in and they are off. Maybe some of the gauges in the multifunction screen might confuse them initially due to the singlish wording (e.g. asspeed indicator, otakmeter, ahteefacial holeezhon, ) also cockpit voice warnings will be different e.g. ground proximity warning will be "alamak, lagi low, pull up lah", RWS will be "kanena, got people shoot your backside", sidewinder tone will be a whine instead of a growl.

Don't forget the 'where got'....enemee at 3 o cock..., "where got, where got"?...gringo, was pearing into the horizon for , "where God"...and was shot down... ha ha ha :p

 

[kukubird58]

a p-3 orion was forced by low grade chinese jets to land in chinese territory and faced the humiliation of being stripped apart.

hahaha....you should know that the chinese jet actually crashed into the p3 and was lost at sea together with the pilot.
the p3 was badly damaged but still managed to land.
not many type of aircraft can survived such an incident in the air.

 

[Papsmearer]

Don't forget the 'where got'....enemee at 3 o cock..., "where got, where got"?...gringo, was pearing into the horizon for , "where God"...and was shot down... ha ha ha :p

hahaha, stall warning will be "buai sai buai sai". eject will be "leejack leejack".

 

[Papsmearer]

hahaha....you should know that the chinese jet actually crashed into the p3 and was lost at sea together with the pilot.
the p3 was badly damaged but still managed to land.
not many type of aircraft can survived such an incident in the air.

yes, that is right. good piece of flying by the P3 pilot.