Evolution vs Creation - Church To Apologise

[zhihau]

bro ..im kawaisuo someone has used my nick ..anyway im not in singapore

i sort of guessed :p

 

[drifter]

i sort of guessed :p

wow..you are god .

 

[zhihau]

wow..you are god .

no, i'm not. i only guessed.

 

[drifter]

no, i'm not. i only guessed.

so you are not god ? means that he doesn't exist ? . i thought i found one

 

[kakowi]

share with us ..what kind of prove do they have to say that god exists ?
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence

As I had said, your faith is your choice. It all starts from your motivation - a desire to find God or a desire to find reasons why there is no God.

 

[kakowi]

making babies are easy try not wearing condom the next time it works

and the human action of procreation makes you an overachieving Man? Who is better than an underachieving God?

 

[kakowi]

In religion and politics, people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination .
a casual stroll through the lunatic asylums shows that faith does not prove anything.

Try a casual stroll through the slums instead and count the number of people for whom their faith inspires them to make lives better for others

 

[kakowi]

Drifter,

I am sure that you have watched movies where your human soul is touched by acts of courage, nobility, strength, sacrifice and where your spirit soars with each of such scenes.

These are all the wonderful things where the human spirit, for a moment, reflect the potential of what Man was intended to be.

Give God a chance.

Regards,

 

[Zombie]

(1) There are enough facts in this world to give a reasonable basis that God exists.

share with us ..what kind of prove do they have to say that god exists ?

As I had said, your faith is your choice. It all starts from your motivation - a desire to find God or a desire to find reasons why there is no God.

Kakowi, look at the flow above.
Can you see the pattern?

 

[Zombie]

you can try creating a stone....it is much simpler than creating a human

Kakowi, the same pattern again.
Can you see?

 

[kakowi]

I am afraid it is a bit too esoteric for me. Is it about:

(1) my blind spot?

(2) my contradictions?

(3) ?
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Whatever the case it is, just take it as my imperfection.

However, don't let it stop you from uncovering the most perfect life you can have.

I can only share with you my ideas. But it is your own ideas that are important because it is your life and only you can live your life.

 

[banova888]

The Church of England will make an official apology to naturalist Charles Darwin for criticising his famous theory of evolution.

Coming 126 years after his death, the church's apology will focus on how wrong it was for senior bishops in the past to misunderstand and attack Darwin's theory about man being descended from apes.

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It took the church 126 years after Darwin died to realise this! Instead of apologising, that church should be worshipping Darwin. It makes sense after the wholopping they gave Darwin for 126 years; after he died, they should now start worshipping Darwin.

 

[zhihau]

so you are not god ? means that he doesn't exist ? . i thought i found one

found one? who cares? i know not if God exists or otherwise, and in the same token i do not need to know if God exists or otherwise.

what difference does it makes? to better the lives of others? to better the life of mine? i only know my thoughts, actions and speech would have repercussions and i jolly well take good care of that. does it take faith to figure that out? in order to better my life, i'd rather stop attributing the unknown to any supernatural or made believed entity, for it would otherwise made it easier for me to believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn and/or the Flying Spaghetti Monster and/or the Celestial Teapot.

i'm not saying those imaginary entities couldn't have exist, yes in fact they do! the very moment i spell them out, the imagery of these entities takes shape in our minds already. so do you think God exists? why would you even bother? having said that, i will not discount faith. having faith isn't a bad idea, for the faith gives the individual courage and strength in times of need. what most folks failed to realize that this faith is actually originating from themselves and it is merely our primal instincts. the survival instinct.

if folks like to pin this faith to supernatural being, it is also fine with me. i'm sure a lot of us have a lil' lucky charm or whatnot, some what inspiring and calming at the same time. if folks need that kind of spiritual and/or emotional clutch, by all means, use it. i can only be glad i need no clutch of such. needing no clutch of such does not mean i'm a bigoted or super sized egoistic bastard. i know exactly where my limitations are and i'm fully aware of my ignorance of this universe we live in. i'd choose not to lose rational and logical thinking, opposing to the context of leading my life based on blind faith.

i have faith. don't say i don't. but my faith is based on calculated judgment, sensible and logical deduction. it is not based on some imaginary entity or supernatural being. oh well, did it occur to you when you've planted a seed and it failed to bear fruits? i'd blame myself for not understanding how the life cycle of this plant works, i'd blame myself for not taking good care of the plant. i could blame the soil, i could blame the seed, but no. until i've exhausted all possible means of finding out what exactly gone wrong, i'd put the blame on myself first. do you need a God for that? :p

 

[cydonia]

The Church of England will make an official apology to naturalist Charles Darwin for criticising his famous theory of evolution.

Coming 126 years after his death, the church's apology will focus on how wrong it was for senior bishops in the past to misunderstand and attack Darwin's theory about man being descended from apes.

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This picture about the evolution theories... When i look at it, since we are now so getting used to sitting down on the computer. will our descendant degenerate physically and become more intelligent? Just like those creepy alien with gigantic head but small physique ?

Bro zhihau, no offence though, that sound like the Scientology religion tom cruise is promoting about. At least, that is what they are based on; Scientific facts...
Seems like there is a religion out there for every different type of belief.

 

[zhihau]

Try a casual stroll through the slums instead and count the number of people for whom their faith inspires them to make lives better for others

heheh...

do those folks in the slum know why they are in the slums? do they make an effort to get out of it? are they making any effort to improve the living conditions? are they doing anything about it?

if they had done something to improve their lives, kudos to them. their efforts had yielded results. do we pin their success on their effort or on their inspiration? perhaps one or the other and perhaps both.

if their source of inspiration was of supernatural origins, their success in the improvement of their lives does not necessarily prove the existence of the source of inspiration. see the correlation? :p

 

[zhihau]

Bro zhihau, no offence though, that sound like the Scientology religion tom cruise is promoting about. At least, that is what they are based on; Scientific facts...
Seems like there is a religion out there for every different type of belief.

which part sounded like Scientology to you?

i'd only like to be seen promoting logical, rational and critical thinking.

 

[cydonia]

which part sounded like Scientology to you?

i'd only like to be seen promoting logical, rational and critical thinking.

I ran a check on Scientology, and contrast to my idea of them it is actually very different. So i must say, i have make a wrong connection. I apologise for that.

 

[zhihau]

I ran a check on Scientology, and contrast to my idea of them it is actually very different. So i must say, i have make a wrong connection. I apologise for that.

no hard feelings bro, don't worry about it, but do continue to look out for any errors i may have made. :p

 

[cydonia]

no hard feelings bro, don't worry about it, but do continue to look out for any errors i may have made. :p

Haha, right back at you.

 

[Zombie]

I am afraid it is a bit too esoteric for me.

Not at all. The pattern is simple and as clear as crystal.
You do not see the pattern because of your faith.
The stronger your faith, the lesser you will see.