• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

Serious Trump Won Again! Tariffs against China went from 125% to 10%!

Trump's approach to deal-making involves applying maximum pressure on his opponents, forcing them to yield to his demands. If this tactic fails, he employs a delay tactic, shifting the goalposts to create uncertainty. His strategy revolves around two primary tools:

1. **Flipping the prata**: If one approach doesn't work, he attempts to negotiate an alternative. If this also fails, he will retreat and reassess his strategy.

2. **Delaying and repositioning**: He will continue to execute these tactics throughout his four-year term in office. While this may be perceived as a comedic spectacle, business owners will face significant challenges and frustration as a result of Trump's approach.
He's plain stupid. Use it once and everyone can see it through now. He'll be the most dumb President to use it the second time, dumber than a stack of bricks as his best pal, Elon, will say.
 
China is the winner ?
When all countries are imposed with 10% base rate but China is imposed with 34% based rate and China is the @winners ?

You mean the higher the percentage and the more successful the country ? Then China is the @winners

If that is the case, Gan Kim Yong must ask USA to impose 40% tariff on Singapore goods because Singapore also want to be the @winners , better than China 30%
Why do you conclude so early? This trade war fight is just at the beginning stage now. 30% tariff for the US consumers is still hell of a lot. Inflation will set in and their people will sure to protest again. Just watch this space.

Nothing had worked out in USA ‘s favour. All the promises like the world begging for mercy, the manufacturers clamoring to bring their products back to the USA, the 90 deals in 90 days, the investors rushing to invest in the USA, the hundreds of new factories, etc, NOTHING. The only thing Trump has achieved is that other countries are making deals with each other, pulling away from the USA, alienating allies, and making the world think the USA has gone bonkers.

China has other alternatives to fight back. Their Treasury rates are low, their citizens' savings are high, they had been through 3 years of Covid with similar factories closures and stopped work, but they are still surviving pretty well today, that country is an authoritative regime where nobody dares to retaliate against the CCP, unlike America. Last of all, they still have Asia and Europe to sell their products albeit with restricted conditions and yields. Trump is going against the whole world with his tariffs implementation, whilst China is only against the US, so you tell me who will eventually win? Common sense will prevail if you still have any.

Trump only has his own agenda in his mind. He would rather ensure all his own, and his family's, present and forthcoming investments in the Middle East will turn successful and would probably even offer to kiss the Arabs' arses in order to fulfill this achievement. He's eagerly waiting for that bitch Pam Bondi to give him the green light to take acceptance of his BOEING 747 present from Qatar, the key financial supporter of the Palestinian militant organization Hamas, not only for his present own use, but also after he will step down as he had already said that it'll eventually go into his own Presidential Library.
 
Last edited:
Bro, Trump blinked first la. China's trade surplus is USD1 trillion. The 10% doesn't mean anything as China exports way more to the US than vice versa. It's a victory for China.
The key is does this agreement means AI chip export ban is relax? If yes then China win else USA win cos 30% tariff is no joke on china
 
This video explains everything I would want to say about this current tariff reprieve between China and US. It is definitely not a win for Trump. Enough said:

Bessent Fails Completely In Major China Backpedal As U.S. Bond Market Begins Selling Off:​




Bessent is clearly a sucker. He has no choice but to present what his boss wants him to say although when you look at his stammering and his body language, they seem very difficult to do so.
 
Last edited:
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/...ith-china-can-south-east-asia-get-a-break-too

Trump blinked in trade war with China. Can South-east Asia get a break, too?​


An obstacle in negotiations is that the White House is pushing for less Asean trade with China as the price for better trade terms with the US.

An obstacle in negotiations is that the White House is pushing for less Asean trade with China as the price for better trade terms with the US.PHOTO: REUTERS

Bhagyashree Garekar
, Yew Lun Tian, Mara Cepeda, Philip Wen and Shannon Teoh
UPDATED MAY 13, 2025, 06:20 PM

WASHINGTON/SINGAPORE/KUALA LUMPUR/BANGKOK/MANILA - It took one weekend in Geneva for US President Donald Trump to roll back what has been seen till now as the raison d’etre of his presidency.

From May 14, gone are the 145 per cent tariffs on goods from China – down to 30 per cent, composed of 10 per cent baseline tariffs plus 20 per cent punitive levies aimed at curbing the inflow of precursors to make the synthetic opioid fentanyl, which is causing tens of thousands of deaths in the US. Apart from these, some sector-specific tariffs remain.

The reversal on China invites the obvious question: What about the rest of the world, especially South-east Asia where reciprocal tariffs range from 49 per cent on Cambodia to 17 per cent on the Philippines to 10 per cent on free-trade agreement partner Singapore?


UPDATED MAY 13, 2025, 06:20 PM

WASHINGTON/SINGAPORE/KUALA LUMPUR/BANGKOK/MANILA - It took one weekend in Geneva for US President Donald Trump to roll back what has been seen till now as the raison d’etre of his presidency.
From May 14, gone are the 145 per cent tariffs on goods from China – down to 30 per cent, composed of 10 per cent baseline tariffs plus 20 per cent punitive levies aimed at curbing the inflow of precursors to make the synthetic opioid fentanyl, which is causing tens of thousands of deaths in the US. Apart from these, some sector-specific tariffs remain.
The reversal on China invites the obvious question: What about the rest of the world, especially South-east Asia where reciprocal tariffs range from 49 per cent on Cambodia to 17 per cent on the Philippines to 10 per cent on free-trade agreement partner Singapore?
 
“de minimis” tariff drops from 120% to 54% with a $100 flat fee per item. this used to be the $800 online purchase that skips customs, duties, taxes and can be shipped directly from tiongcock to usa. many tiongcock online retail sites sexploit this loophole to ship junk and fakes to americans in order to boost their “sales”, “revenue”, and “volume” to dupe tiongs into investing in them. fentanyl is also shipped this way, bypassing inspection and scrutiny at the ports. with a $100 flat fee and relatively high 54% tariff, buyers are deterred from making rash purchases.

also, ccp lifts the ban on purchases of boeing aircraft.
 
The poker game was won by Xi, not Trump.


https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/e...off-as-trump-meets-most-chinese-trade-demands

Xi’s defiance pays off as Trump meets most Chinese trade demands

View attachment 220349
Chinese President Xi Jinping has struck a defiant tone ever since US President Donald Trump began raising tariffs on China.PHOTO: REUTERS

BEIJING – Mr Xi Jinping’s decision to stand his ground against US President Donald Trump could hardly have gone any better for the Chinese leader.

After two days of high-stakes talks in Switzerland, trade negotiators from the world’s biggest economies announced on May 12 a massive de-escalation in tariffs. In a carefully coordinated joint statement, the US slashed duties on Chinese products to 30 per cent from 145 per cent for a 90-day period, while Beijing dropped its levy on most goods to 10 per cent.

The dramatic reduction exceeded expectations in China, and sent the dollar and stocks soaring – providing some much-needed market relief for Mr Trump, who is facing pressure as inflation looks set to speed up at home. Chinese equities also surged.

he deal ended up meeting nearly all of Beijing’s core demands. The elevated “reciprocal” tariff for China, which Mr Trump set at 34 per cent on April 2, has been suspended – leaving America’s top rival with the same 10 per cent rate that applies to Britain, a long-time ally.

The US met Beijing’s call for a point person for talks by setting up a mechanism headed by US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent. And the two sides agreed to take “aggressive actions” to stem the flow of fentanyl, which could eventually lead to the elimination of the additional 20 per cent tariff.

“This is arguably the best outcome that China could have hoped for – the US backed down,” said Mr Trey McArver, co-founder of research firm Trivium China. “Going forward, this will make the Chinese side confident that they have leverage over the US in any negotiations.”
Wow Trump lost....I am Soo upset
 
Back
Top