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Serious Trump Won Again! Tariffs against China went from 125% to 10%!

To all the Trumptard Minions in this forum, I think this piece of news summarizes the truth to you even though I know it's hard for you Minions to accept the truth and nothing but the truth. So stop denying and humbly accept your defeat:

Xi’s defiance pays off as Trump meets most Chinese trade demands:​


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Chinese President Xi Jinping has struck a defiant tone ever since US President Donald Trump began raising tariffs on China.PHOTO: REUTERS

BEIJING – Mr Xi Jinping’s decision to stand his ground against US President Donald Trump could hardly have gone any better for the Chinese leader.

After two days of high-stakes talks in Switzerland, trade negotiators from the world’s biggest economies announced on May 12 a massive de-escalation in tariffs. In a carefully coordinated joint statement, the US slashed duties on Chinese products to 30 per cent from 145 per cent for a 90-day period, while Beijing dropped its levy on most goods to 10 per cent.

The dramatic reduction exceeded expectations in China, and sent the dollar and stocks soaring – providing some much-needed market relief for Mr Trump, who is facing pressure as inflation looks set to speed up at home. Chinese equities also surged.

The deal ended up meeting nearly all of Beijing’s core demands. The elevated “reciprocal” tariff for China, which Mr Trump set at 34 per cent on April 2, has been suspended – leaving America’s top rival with the same 10 per cent rate that applies to Britain, a long-time ally.

The US met Beijing’s call for a point person for talks by setting up a mechanism headed by US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent. And the two sides agreed to take “aggressive actions” to stem the flow of fentanyl, which could eventually lead to the elimination of the additional 20 per cent tariff.

“This is arguably the best outcome that China could have hoped for – the US backed down,” said Mr Trey McArver, co-founder of research firm Trivium China. “Going forward, this will make the Chinese side confident that they have leverage over the US in any negotiations.”

Mr Xi struck a defiant tone ever since Mr Trump began raising US tariffs to their highest level in a century. In contrast to other world leaders, he refused Mr Trump’s repeated calls to get on the phone with the US President – even as tariffs rose to levels that China called a “joke”.

Officials in Beijing instead cut key interest rates and took other steps to fortify China’s economy, while dispatching diplomats around the world on a charm offensive to secure fresh markets for Chinese products and decry US “bullying”.

Although China began feeling economic pain, with factory activity starting to slump, Mr Xi enjoyed a surge of nationalism at home encouraging him to avoid bending to US coercion.

Mr Trump, meanwhile, faced increasing pressure from business lobbies, market players and members of his party who feared losing their seats in mid-term elections in 2026.


“The lesson is economic power matters,” said Mr Gerard DiPippo, associate director of the Rand China Research Centre. “For Beijing, it’s a strategic vindication, and one that makes Xi’s focus on manufacturing and self-reliance harder to argue against, at least from an economic security perspective.”

Mr Trump said May 12 that he could speak to Mr Xi as soon as the end of this week, as he touted a “total reset” in ties with China.

Once the trade talks were announced last week, the choice of Geneva already indicated the US was ceding some ground. China has long preferred that substantive talks take place in private, away from television cameras and prying reporters.

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The highly stage-managed truce was notable along with the fact Mr Trump did not front-run the news on social media, according to Deutsche Bank strategist George Saravelos. “All of this is a clear signal of negotiations moving into a more conciliatory and respectful” phase, he added, citing that as another Chinese demand.

For China’s part, Vice-Premier He Lifeng’s team agreed to roll back “non-tariff” measures imposed since “Liberation Day”, without elaborating. Getting relief on export controls imposed on rare earths was a priority for the White House, after it came under pressure from firms using such minerals for industrial magnets.

Beijing also did not pledge to increase investment from the US, and Mr Bessent said purchase agreements might come later. US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer made clear the “phase one” deal from Mr Trump’s first trade war, which committed China to buying US$200 billion (S$259 billion) of US goods, had not been under discussion.

“The talks were very much focused on how do we get the tariff levels to something that is not an embargo, but still allows the United States to pursue its goal of trade deficit reduction,” he said.

China now has a three-month window to strike a broader deal with the US that rebalances trade, while safeguarding its own interests. Beijing has devoted years since Mr Trump’s first term to reducing its dependence on the US for key imports, buying more agricultural products from partners in emerging markets such as Brazil.

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Chinese Vice-Premier He Lifeng’s team has agreed to roll back “non-tariff” measures imposed since “Liberation Day”.PHOTO: REUTERS

Just like during Mr Trump’s first term, China will not compromise on key parts of its economic and political system, including how state-owned enterprises are run, according to Dr Song Hong, deputy director of the Institute of Economics at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, a ministry-level institution under the State Council, akin to China’s Cabinet.

“Beyond the red lines, there are a lot of gaps we can fill through negotiations,” he added, citing things like tariffs, intellectual property rights and subsidies.

Dr Dong Yan, director of the trade department at another institute under the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, said it was a good development while cautioning that Mr Trump could yet hike them again.

“We have learned our lesson from Trump 1.0, where we saw that tariff negotiations can go back and forth rather than being achieved overnight,” she said.

The reduction in tariffs should make it easier for Chinese policy makers to hit a growth target of about 5 per cent in 2025. ING Bank upgraded its gross domestic product forecast to 4.7 per cent for 2025 after the deal, saying May and June exports to the US are likely to bounce back sharply.

The suspension window could lead to more frontloading of shipments and production, according to Mr Robin Xing, chief China economist at Morgan Stanley, who also cautioned that a “durable resolution remains challenging given the complex bilateral relationship”.

Although the reduction in tariffs is a positive development, Mr Trump has still made it clear the world is no longer in a “wonderful globalisation mode”, Ms Alicia Garcia Herrero, chief Asia Pacific economist at Natixis, told Bloomberg Television.

“It is better to bifurcate slowly and steadily and nicely,” she said. “Rather than fighting over it as we were doing right before this conversation started in Geneva.” BLOOMBERG.

Source: https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/e...off-as-trump-meets-most-chinese-trade-demands

By the way, Trump had better to do the same, especially with Canada, Mexico, the EU and Japan. Seeing how China has inevitably won this current trade war, I doubt those 4 nations will give in to Trump so easily again. Some Canadian auto parts suppliers have also completely stopped selling spare parts to the US auto workshops, despite the latter are willing to pay the import tariffs by themselves.

Meanwhile, on a sidenote, Trump is welcoming White South Africans into the US as refugee status with more than 8,000 to come. This must be at the instigation of Elon, himself being a White South African origin. Song Boh?

White South Africans granted refugee status by Trump arrive in US | DW News:​


 
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(Reuters) -The U.S. government posted a $258 billion budget surplus for April, up 23%, or about $49 billion, from a year earlier, reflecting strong tax receipts in the final month of the tax season and record collections of import duties, the Treasury Department said on Monday.

Treasury reported that customs duties in April totaled $16 billion, about a $9 billion increase from the year-earlier period and far eclipsing the previous record of $9.6 billion two years earlier. The jump occurred during a month in which President Donald Trump boosted tariffs on Chinese goods to as much as 145% while slapping at least 10% levies on imports of goods from other countries.
 
The poker game was won by Xi, not Trump.


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Xi’s defiance pays off as Trump meets most Chinese trade demands

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Chinese President Xi Jinping has struck a defiant tone ever since US President Donald Trump began raising tariffs on China.PHOTO: REUTERS

BEIJING – Mr Xi Jinping’s decision to stand his ground against US President Donald Trump could hardly have gone any better for the Chinese leader.

After two days of high-stakes talks in Switzerland, trade negotiators from the world’s biggest economies announced on May 12 a massive de-escalation in tariffs. In a carefully coordinated joint statement, the US slashed duties on Chinese products to 30 per cent from 145 per cent for a 90-day period, while Beijing dropped its levy on most goods to 10 per cent.

The dramatic reduction exceeded expectations in China, and sent the dollar and stocks soaring – providing some much-needed market relief for Mr Trump, who is facing pressure as inflation looks set to speed up at home. Chinese equities also surged.

he deal ended up meeting nearly all of Beijing’s core demands. The elevated “reciprocal” tariff for China, which Mr Trump set at 34 per cent on April 2, has been suspended – leaving America’s top rival with the same 10 per cent rate that applies to Britain, a long-time ally.

The US met Beijing’s call for a point person for talks by setting up a mechanism headed by US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent. And the two sides agreed to take “aggressive actions” to stem the flow of fentanyl, which could eventually lead to the elimination of the additional 20 per cent tariff.

“This is arguably the best outcome that China could have hoped for – the US backed down,” said Mr Trey McArver, co-founder of research firm Trivium China. “Going forward, this will make the Chinese side confident that they have leverage over the US in any negotiations.”
 
The 1985 Plaza Accord Treaty with Japan led to nearly four decades of stagnation and deflation. To combat this economic stagnation, Japan has been forced to implement monetary policies, including printing money to purchase government bonds and maintaining artificially low interest rates, such as a zero percent rate.
China is slowly falling into the similar trap set by Trump administration, MAGA
 
Trump is trying to pry open the door of Chinese's strategic industry. Like your telecommunications, energy,banking/Finance and others service industry which is not being open to US.
 
blah blah blah.......please 'face the facts'...so far all the noise is from big mouth trump....enough said
3 months down the road, he will sprout some nonsense again, there is NO winner in this, period, only the consumers are the losers
 
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This is for the retards who believe China has 'won'. :roflmao:

It's understandable Tiongs who live behind the Great Firewall can be duped because the information they get is heavily censored, but it takes a special kind of stupid among those living outside the Great Firewall to believe the pro-China propaganda. :cool:

 
The 1985 Plaza Accord Treaty with Japan led to nearly four decades of stagnation and deflation. To combat this economic stagnation, Japan has been forced to implement monetary policies, including printing money to purchase government bonds and maintaining artificially low interest rates, such as a zero percent rate.
China is slowly falling into the similar trap set by Trump administration, MAGA
The Plaza Accord spelt the demise of Japan's economy at a time when it was on its way to surpass America as the world's #1 economy. Despite its liberal claims to the contrary, the US will never allow another country - ally or otherwise - to dethrone it.

You can be sure that China will learn from history and not allow itself to fall into the same trap. China's economy is actually a lot stronger and more diversified than Japan in the '80s which only hand a superpower export economy based on manufacturing. Plus it controls many of the world's supply chain chokepoints. Then tehere are the attempts move away from a unipolar USD based world economic order: digital renminbi, 1B1R, BRICs are all efforts at establishing a multi-polar world economy.
 
Trump's approach to deal-making involves applying maximum pressure on his opponents, forcing them to yield to his demands. If this tactic fails, he employs a delay tactic, shifting the goalposts to create uncertainty. His strategy revolves around two primary tools:

1. **Flipping the prata**: If one approach doesn't work, he attempts to negotiate an alternative. If this also fails, he will retreat and reassess his strategy.

2. **Delaying and repositioning**: He will continue to execute these tactics throughout his four-year term in office. While this may be perceived as a comedic spectacle, business owners will face significant challenges and frustration as a result of Trump's approach.
 
China is the winner ?
When all countries are imposed with 10% base rate but China is imposed with 34% based rate and China is the @winners ?

You mean the higher the percentage and the more successful the country ? Then China is the @winners

If that is the case, Gan Kim Yong must ask USA to impose 40% tariff on Singapore goods because Singapore also want to be the @winners , better than China 30%
 
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Trump's approach to deal-making involves applying maximum pressure on his opponents, forcing them to yield to his demands. If this tactic fails, he employs a delay tactic, shifting the goalposts to create uncertainty. His strategy revolves around two primary tools:

1. **Flipping the prata**: If one approach doesn't work, he attempts to negotiate an alternative. If this also fails, he will retreat and reassess his strategy.

2. **Delaying and repositioning**: He will continue to execute these tactics throughout his four-year term in office. While this may be perceived as a comedic spectacle, business owners will face significant challenges and frustration as a result of Trump's approach.
He's transplanting 'the art of the deal' gleaned from business experience to the political arena. But in the long term I think Sun Tzu's 'the art of war' will prevail.
 
While this may be perceived as a comedic spectacle, business owners will face significant challenges and frustration as a result of Trump's approach.

Decouple from China and all that frustration goes away. Take your people, money and factories out of China.

Trump will make China economically irrelevant again like in the good old days. :cool:
 
He's transplanting 'the art of the deal' gleaned from business experience to the political arena. But in the long term I think Sun Tzu's 'the art of war' will prevail.
In long term , Murika will becum the Land of LimPehKong very soon
 
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president dumb jus kissed his arse... not only tat, president xi also squeeze tat tariff man balls n start pulling his coc hairs 1 at a time :roflmao::roflmao:
 
Wow China finally knelt before Trump the great!!

China charge USA 10%
USA charge China 30%!
Bro, Trump blinked first la. China's trade surplus is USD1 trillion. The 10% doesn't mean anything as China exports way more to the US than vice versa. It's a victory for China.
 
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