Toyota rock hard.

[Leongsam]

 

[laksaboy]

Looks like one of those boxy cars used for HDB carpark funeral processions.

 

[syed putra]

Looks like one of those boxy cars used for HDB carpark funeral processions.

KL ministers ditched proton for alphard.

 

[laksaboy]

This is how you sell cars:

 

[Hypocrite-The]

KL ministers ditched proton for alphard.

Proton is ChiCon car?

 

[nightsafari]

I like the Alphard quite a lot. That is if I could afford a driver to shuttle me around.

It does however have two major problems. One since it's inception and the other is growing worse with each year.

It's too tall to fit into most carparks, but this will be easily solved by a driver; and it's getting uglier with each generation which no amount of fixing will stop.

 

[syed putra]

Proton is ChiCon car?

Umno see local chinese as threats but they can with those from china.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Umno see local chinese as threats but they can with those from china.

The chicons will be the next local mudland cins

 

[syed putra]

it's getting uglier with each generation which no amount of fixing will stop.

That ugliness is a brutalist design. Like those concrete buildings in the 60's and 70's. Appreciated by some, offend others.
I like the delica due to its awd and diesel engine. But its only sold in japan. With ad-blue diesel which us cumbersome.

 

[nightsafari]

That ugliness is a brutalist design. Like those concrete buildings in the 60's and 70's. Appreciated by some, offend others.
I like the delica due to its awd and diesel engine. But its only sold in japan. With ad-blue diesel which us cumbersome.
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with adblue? I had no idea. I thought adblue was an EU thing. Delicas are immensely popular all over the world. Why the hell they don't just export it whole is a mystery to me.

I understand brutalist design. As a teenager, I subscribed to it. As I've matured. I am however expressing my distaste for it. It is the design choice for the cowardly and the tasteless. Hardly my choice. Hence, my rejection of it.

 

[syed putra]

with adblue? I had no idea. I thought adblue was an EU thing. Delicas are immensely popular all over the world. Why the hell they don't just export it whole is a mystery to me.

They sell adblue in the US too. But diesel is quickly being phased out as no matter how good those particulate filters are, they get choked and as cars get older, emit pollutants. Some european cities have ban diesel cars from entering.

 

[nightsafari]

They sell adblue in the US too. But diesel is quickly being phased out as no matter how good those particulate filters are, they get choked and as cars get older, emit pollutants. Some european cities have ban diesel cars from entering.

Adblue in the US is dead and gone. Marginal subscription at best.

I've always hated diesel engines. No powerband. One magnificent torque peak and craters next to it. Plus diesel particulates are the world's most potent carcinogen.

And on the subjective side, they sound like agricultural appliances.

 

[syed putra]

Adblue in the US is dead and gone. Marginal subscription at best.

I've always hated diesel engines. No powerband. One magnificent torque peak and craters next to it. Plus diesel particulates are the world's most potent carcinogen.

And on the subjective side, they sound like agricultural appliances.

For vans and suv's i prefer diesel. I have a diesel truck and petrol suv. The diesel truck has not given me any problems at all. Minimum maintenance. I hope they can resolve the bio-diesel issues soon so i can switch on to that.

 

[nightsafari]

For vans and suv's i prefer diesel. I have a diesel truck and petrol suv. The diesel truck has not given me any problems at all. Minimum maintenance. I hope they can resolve the bio-diesel issues soon so i can switch on to that.

I read before you have an ML Mercedes? Which generation? What truck is it?

The MLs were quite maintenance hungry.

Diesels by their nature are pretty robust. I appreciate them in a ship or a truck, but no a passenger vehicle.

 

[syed putra]

I read before you have an ML Mercedes? Which generation? What truck is it?

The MLs were quite maintenance hungry.

Diesels by their nature are pretty robust. I appreciate them in a ship or a truck, but no a passenger vehicle.

First gen ML. Currently storage.On its last legs. Waiting for delica if it comes. Truck is mitsubishi.
If they had not gone and tried building the passenger aeroplane, they could still be making great cars. In the end, just like bombardier, they lost everything.

 

[nightsafari]

First gen ML. Currently storage.On its last legs. Waiting for delica if it comes. Truck is mitsubishi.
If they had not gone and tried building the passenger aeroplane, they could still be making great cars. In the end, just like bombardier, they lost everything.

First gen ML was a tembak special. They had to come up with solution real quick to put a player in the SUV marketplace which they had neglected. Also at the time Daimler was totally lsot. I'm not surprised you're having durability issues with it. Being a tembak special as well as during Daimler's quality crisis.

Mitsubishi. L200? To be honest, my top picks for engineering amongst Japanese companies comes down to 2. Yamaha and Mitsubishi. Leave aside management quality of Mitsubishi for a moment, these two are the best engineering houses in Japan.

Agreed that chasing passenger airliners in this day and age is a lost cause. Airbus owns the market.

BTW, do you have any experience with sidestick vs yoke?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

For vans and suv's i prefer diesel. I have a diesel truck and petrol suv. The diesel truck has not given me any problems at all. Minimum maintenance. I hope they can resolve the bio-diesel issues soon so i can switch on to that.

Diesels can last a long time if they are taken care off and well maintained. For example don't mix engine oil. They are extremely durable. N yes for trucks n utes n SUVs..diesel is much better. For example the Toyota land cruiser.. diesel is better n more practical n diesel does not ignite like petrol. N all these diesel Vs petrol etc, I don't have any issues with both.

N diesel...must be well maintained for it to last.