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is it 100% car driver fault?
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cyclist also never stop and just assume he has right to chiong zebra crossing
no its 100% cyclist fault, since when bicycle can use pedestrian crossing? the fucker shld dismount and push. last time limpeh almost bang a cbkia cyclist, fucker suddenly just shoot out of nowhere damn fast, cant even react in time..human walking speed slow can see but bicycle cheong out damn dangerous
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worse if it is stupig pmd
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sinkie driver doesn’t have periphery vision. very tunneled vision. only see vehicle rear lights in front. same habit, behavior, and attitude displayed wherever there’s a queue in sg, especially on escalator at any mrt station. at work it’s the same. no wonder sinkies are being leeplaced by ceca nehs, virus tiongs, and ang mohs the best.
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first of all, cyclists should not be shooting across the crossing, cars cant stop in time
secondly the car hardly touched the pussy and he felled like a star soccer player tackled by a gorilla
secondly the car hardly touched the pussy and he felled like a star soccer player tackled by a gorilla
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Cyclists are not required to dismount. Your ignorance is shocking and you should be stripped of your license and forced to re sit your highway code test.
It is fucked up drivers like yourself that are the cause of many injuries and deaths to innocent road users.
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must be a concerned samaritan passercheebye, oops passerby. in sg aunties and unkers will call her kaypohchee.
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If Only Singaporeans Stopped to Think: Cyclists should dismount when using crossings
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Cyclists are not considered pedestrians if they ride across pedestrian crossings, and do not have any right of way ('Set cyclists straight about rule at pedestrian crossings' by Mr Benny Fang; last Sunday).
Cyclists should dismount from their bicycles when using the zebra crossing, and should use the crossing on foot, pushing their bicycles with them.
Cyclists who ride dangerously across pedestrian crossings and endanger the safety of pedestrians and other road users can be booked for a traffic offence.
For the first six months of this year, the Traffic Police have issued more than 700 summonses to cyclists for various traffic violations.
Road safety is the responsibility of all road users. Let's play our part in making our roads safe for everyone.
Fong Weng Kiong
Assistant Director
Media Relations (Covering)
Singapore Police Force
ST Forum, 15 Jul 2012
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Cyclists are not considered pedestrians if they ride across pedestrian crossings, and do not have any right of way ('Set cyclists straight about rule at pedestrian crossings' by Mr Benny Fang; last Sunday).
Cyclists should dismount from their bicycles when using the zebra crossing, and should use the crossing on foot, pushing their bicycles with them.
Cyclists who ride dangerously across pedestrian crossings and endanger the safety of pedestrians and other road users can be booked for a traffic offence.
For the first six months of this year, the Traffic Police have issued more than 700 summonses to cyclists for various traffic violations.
Road safety is the responsibility of all road users. Let's play our part in making our roads safe for everyone.
Fong Weng Kiong
Assistant Director
Media Relations (Covering)
Singapore Police Force
ST Forum, 15 Jul 2012
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in australia...
https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/bicycles/safety-rules/road-rules-for-bicycle-riders.html
Riding on a pedestrian crossing
You can only ride your bicycle across a crossing where bicycle crossing lights are installed.
At a red bicycle crossing light:
https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/bicycles/safety-rules/road-rules-for-bicycle-riders.html
Riding on a pedestrian crossing
You can only ride your bicycle across a crossing where bicycle crossing lights are installed.
At a red bicycle crossing light:
- You must stop before the crossing and only proceed if the bicycle crossing light changes to green or is not showing red.
- You may proceed through the crossing area exercising caution if there is also pedestrians. In addition to bicycle crossing signals, you must obey any traffic signals or signs, as would other road users.
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That's out of date! There is no requirement to dismount. You are another twit who does not keep up with the times.
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and in united kingdom...
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/rules-for-cyclists-59-to-82
Crossing the road (rules 79 to 82)
Rule 79
Do not ride across equestrian crossings, as they are for horse riders only. Do not ride across a pelican, puffin or zebra crossing. Dismount and wheel your cycle across.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/rules-for-cyclists-59-to-82
Crossing the road (rules 79 to 82)
Rule 79
Do not ride across equestrian crossings, as they are for horse riders only. Do not ride across a pelican, puffin or zebra crossing. Dismount and wheel your cycle across.
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why the name calling insults?
i am merely researching on the net on this grey aspect as different jurisdictions have different rules on whether to dismount or not.
in new york, apparently, no dismount needed.
why so emo?
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and in new york...
NYPD Cops Say Injured Cyclist Should Have Followed Nonexistent Traffic Law
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Three weeks into the NYPD's "Bicycle Safe Passage Plan," and on the heels of the 16th and 17th cyclist fatalities of the year, some police officers still can't be bothered to learn the basic rules of the road.
On Wednesday, two uniformed officers were caught on video insisting that cyclists are legally prohibited from riding in certain intersections, claiming they should instead dismount their bikes and walk when approaching a bike lane on the opposite side of the street.
That misinformation was dispensed in the immediate aftermath of a crash that knocked a cyclist off his bike at the intersection of Sixth Avenue and 25th Street—just two blocks from where Robyn Hightman was killed last month.
One person at the location was hospitalized, according to a fire department spokesperson. Witnesses claimed that the cyclist was hit by the driver of an MTA Access-A-Ride vehicle, who then fled the scene. The NYPD had no information about the incident. A spokesperson for the MTA told Gothamist, “We have no record that this incident involved an Access-a-Ride vehicle, but we take a report like this very seriously and it’s under investigation."
Footage of the subsequent exchange was captured by cyclist Hilda Cohen, who notes that the second officer was wearing a white shirt, indicating a minimum rank of lieutenant.
A partial transcript:
Officer 1: If you are going westbound to northbound, you're supposed to walk your bike over to the bike lane
Cohen: You are not.
Officer 1: Yes you are.
Cohen: You're supposed to cross, to get off your bike and walk?
Officer 1: Yes absolutely.
Officer 2: For your safety.
Cohen: You've got to be kidding me. Why don't you tell the drivers to get out and cross the crosswalk by pushing their car?
Officer 1: We're not going to have a whole debate right now about this.
Officer 2: Listen we don't make these rules. The Department of Transportation makes these rules.
The DOT does not make these rules, as these rules do not exist. There is no scenario in which a cyclist would have to dismount their bike while making a turn. Unless there is an emergency or explicit signage indicating otherwise, there is no situation that a cyclist would ever be legally required to dismount their bike, according to Steve Vaccaro, an attorney and safe streets advocate who often represents cyclists.
"These cops don't know the law so they make it up as they go along—that's what happened here," Vaccaro told Gothamist after watching the video. "It's patronizing."
The NYPD's obliviousness or outright hostility toward the laws around cycling in the city is well-documented.
Following an uptick in cyclist fatalities in the first half of the year, Mayor Bill de Blasio announced an operation to crack down on reckless drivers, along with an "educational outreach" component for all road users. Later today, the mayor is expected to release a five-year, $58.7 million "cyclist safety plan," which will reportedly focus on adding protected bike lanes, redesigning intersections, and stepping up police enforcement at dangerous crossings.
Asked if he was concerned about the NYPD spreading inaccurate information to New Yorkers, and whether the forthcoming safety plan might involve retraining police officers on street safety laws, a spokesperson for the mayor referred us to the police department.
Multiple comment requests to NYPD were ignored.
NYPD Cops Say Injured Cyclist Should Have Followed Nonexistent Traffic Law
gothamist.com
On Wednesday, two uniformed officers were caught on video insisting that cyclists are legally prohibited from riding in certain intersections, claiming they should instead dismount their bikes and walk when approaching a bike lane on the opposite side of the street.
That misinformation was dispensed in the immediate aftermath of a crash that knocked a cyclist off his bike at the intersection of Sixth Avenue and 25th Street—just two blocks from where Robyn Hightman was killed last month.
One person at the location was hospitalized, according to a fire department spokesperson. Witnesses claimed that the cyclist was hit by the driver of an MTA Access-A-Ride vehicle, who then fled the scene. The NYPD had no information about the incident. A spokesperson for the MTA told Gothamist, “We have no record that this incident involved an Access-a-Ride vehicle, but we take a report like this very seriously and it’s under investigation."
Footage of the subsequent exchange was captured by cyclist Hilda Cohen, who notes that the second officer was wearing a white shirt, indicating a minimum rank of lieutenant.
A partial transcript:
Officer 1: If you are going westbound to northbound, you're supposed to walk your bike over to the bike lane
Cohen: You are not.
Officer 1: Yes you are.
Cohen: You're supposed to cross, to get off your bike and walk?
Officer 1: Yes absolutely.
Officer 2: For your safety.
Cohen: You've got to be kidding me. Why don't you tell the drivers to get out and cross the crosswalk by pushing their car?
Officer 1: We're not going to have a whole debate right now about this.
Officer 2: Listen we don't make these rules. The Department of Transportation makes these rules.
The DOT does not make these rules, as these rules do not exist. There is no scenario in which a cyclist would have to dismount their bike while making a turn. Unless there is an emergency or explicit signage indicating otherwise, there is no situation that a cyclist would ever be legally required to dismount their bike, according to Steve Vaccaro, an attorney and safe streets advocate who often represents cyclists.
"These cops don't know the law so they make it up as they go along—that's what happened here," Vaccaro told Gothamist after watching the video. "It's patronizing."
The NYPD's obliviousness or outright hostility toward the laws around cycling in the city is well-documented.
Following an uptick in cyclist fatalities in the first half of the year, Mayor Bill de Blasio announced an operation to crack down on reckless drivers, along with an "educational outreach" component for all road users. Later today, the mayor is expected to release a five-year, $58.7 million "cyclist safety plan," which will reportedly focus on adding protected bike lanes, redesigning intersections, and stepping up police enforcement at dangerous crossings.
Asked if he was concerned about the NYPD spreading inaccurate information to New Yorkers, and whether the forthcoming safety plan might involve retraining police officers on street safety laws, a spokesperson for the mayor referred us to the police department.
Multiple comment requests to NYPD were ignored.
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Drivers fault. On zebra crossings, pedestrians, which include cyclist and pmd's have right of way. But of course, when crossing, pedestrians must behave defensively as they are susceptible to injuries if knocked down.
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