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The Dave Lee (Corporal F.C.) Thread

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Short bursts of high intensity can kill too.

High-Intensity Workouts Can Cause Kidney Damage


Rhabdomyolysis, the breakdown of muscle fibers and release of their toxic protein byproduct into the bloodstream, can result in kidney damage. It’s one major risk factor for those who jump right into these intense workouts glorified for their difficulty. Some of the most common causes of rhabdomyolysis (called “rhabdo” for short) include overexertion, extreme physical activity and trauma to the skeletal muscles—all of which can easily occur as a result of intense, strenuous exercise, marathon running or exercising in hot, humid weather.

Muscle membranes typically wrap around the muscle cell to keep everything intact. In athletic-induced rhabdo, the muscle membrane breaks down and eccentric contractions, shortening of the muscle while it’s being stretched, could be the culprit. An eccentric contraction, like a jump squat, strains the muscle membrane; the more tattered it becomes, the easier it is for its inner contents to leak out. When potassium and myoglobin, a protein found in muscle tissue, enter the bloodstream and reach the kidneys, the result can be deadly if not treated and causes permanent scarring on the kidneys.


Read more at https://www.phillymag.com/be-well-p...-high-intensity-workouts/#ZRjVp45xx06yzurX.99

British Army revamps its fitness regime, Singapore?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/06/end-leather-training-army-gets-new-fitness-regime/


For centuries the British Army has made soldiers endure the excruciating long march carrying full kit to ensure troops were at their peak of physical fitness and combat ready.

But an overhaul of training will now see soldiers also use the latest sports science techniques favoured by footballers and Olympians to get them fighting fit but also protect them from injury.

Instead of new recruits being “thrashed” with “hell for leather” training, they will focus more on short bursts of strength and conditioning work, as well as being given adequate rests to allow their bodies to recover.

The Army’s review of its fitness regime is an attempt to reduce the numbers of those discharged after suffering musculoskeletal injuries, such as torn tendons and ligaments, muscle strains and damage to nerves.

For the last 15 years, such injuries have accounted for about 60 percent of the Army’s medical discharges.

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Soldiers training at the Army Foundation College in Harrogate CREDIT: EDDIE MULHOLLAND FOR THE TELEGRAPH
An Army source said the Royal Army Physical Training Corps’ shift in fitness philosophy is an attempt to “bring training into the 21st Century”.

As well as underlining the importance of rest, hydration and nutrition, soldiers will be encouraged to report niggling pains they experience in order to treat injuries early, rather than pretending that suffering in silence is macho.

Meanwhile, more sessions are likely to be carried out in swimming pools because water offers support and reduces impact injuries.

Greater emphasis will also be placed on preparing recruits for the specific physical rigours each unit will be asked to face in the field of battle.

The source added that the Army had learned from conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan where marching at speed became irrelevant, in part because of the heat and hidden improvised explosives posing a ever-present threat.

“But, there may be a need for a soldier to employ a short burst of intense energy carrying an injured colleague away,” he said.

“We want to make soldiers stronger and better prepared for the jobs that they will face in their unit.

“And, in so doing we also want to reduce injuries. It’s not just about going hell for leather. Professional athletes - footballers, rugby players and Olympians - do not do all out training all of the time.”

Outlining the concept behind the new regime, Major Robert Heagarty, a physiotherapist who also works with British Olympics, said “soldiers need to be fit to run, not just run to get fit”.

In an interview with Soldier, the magazine of the British Army, he said: “Youngsters today don’t do as much physical activity as previous generation so the step from civilian to soldier is bigger than ever before.

“I reviewed our methods with the intent of reducing musculoskeletal injuries and medical discharges without compromising the Army’s physical fitness standards.”

The source insisted that the Army was not adjusting to an influx of the so-called “snowflake generation”, but wanted to prevent injury to ensure that the British Army remained one of the best fighting forces in the world.

An Army spokesperson said: “This new fitness programme will reduce the number of musculoskeletal injuries sustained by soldiers of all ages and ensure our physical training gets our soldiers ready for the rigours of combat.”
 

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Every time I go for a bike ride my body tells me to stop torturing myself. If I listened to my body I'd stop riding within 30 seconds of starting.

I push through the pain and soldier on. In return I am rewarded with good health.
You do not understand what is "listening to your body; vital sign that your body is telling you".

Below is what has happened to a cyclist friend. They cycle every weekend. All are Great cyclists, in tip top condition. They push though they felt the urgh to stop. That urgh to stop is NOT a vital sign the body is telling.

One day, one of them stopped half way through their normal course. Others stopped to help. He said he just felt uncomfortable, just kind of unusual and asked the rest to contonue. One of them stayed back to accompany him.

When the rest were gone, he suddenly broke into cold sweat and turned pale. His companion called the ambulance. He was actually having a minor heart attack. The doc said probably a blood clot from other parts of the body was dislodged, traveling to the heart and partially blocking blood flow. It could develop into a major heart attack had he continued cycling.

He knew how to listen to his body and is still cycling today.
 

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The only way to prevent deaths during NS is to get rid of NS. Nothing else is going to work simply because nobody can foresee every single possibility of dying.

Highly trained athletes who have performed at top level for years can suddenly drop dead too despite the fact they go for extensive medical examinations on a regular basis.

Once you are a soldier the possibility of you dying is increased by 3 folds.
 

Leongsam

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He knew how to listen to his body and is still cycling today.

I've had cyclists in my group suffer heart attacks while riding too. When a heart attack occurs you don't have to listen to anything. Your body will force you to stop. When a heart attack occurs there is no way a cyclist is going to get to the top of a hill even if he tried.
 

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I've had cyclists in my group suffer heart attacks while riding too. When a heart attack occurs you don't have to listen to anything. Your body will force you to stop. When a heart attack occurs there is no way a cyclist is going to get to the top of a hill even if he tried.
Did you help him ? Or ask him to get up and go for the sake of better health.
 

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I do not agree that any death is one too many. In order for training to be realistic it has to be tough to the point where it might break the weakest link. As I said earlier NS is not a school camp it is about making Singapore ready for war.

I would put the acceptable figure at 1 death per 1000 trainees.

The corollary to your argument is that if no deaths occur, the training is not "realistic". Here are two photos to show how specious your argument is.

This a magazine holder used so that the magazine of bullets is not loaded into the rifle. It is not just a requirement of training safety but operational safety.


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This is what is known as a Mac Porek. It's placed in the chamber to ensure that no bullets are carelessly left in the chamber. It is not just a requirement of training safety but operational safety.

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These devices are used in the IDF, a force that unlike the SAF, is in effect, operational everyday of the year in view of the country's circumstances. Despite its circumstances, there continues to be a tremendous emphasis on safety, hence these devices even though there is already a safety catch on such weapons.

As I have told you during the smoke grenade exchange, deaths are not necessary and are not a performance indicator of "realistic" military training. To think so is being facile. Every military force in the world has training safety regulations including operational safety regulations. The aim of such regulations are to prevent injuries or deaths, including those afflicted on the "weakest link" since in any cohort of soldiers in any military force around the world, there will always be a "weakest link".

Commanders responsible for such preventable injuries or deaths should be condemned for their irresponsibility and callous attitude, not hailed or applauded for conducting "realistic" training. Ditto for the minister in charge since they are quick to claim credit for their "courage" when things work out (as Jayakumar did after the 1991 SQ 117 hijack). As this occurred under Ng Eng Hen's watch and the culture he has created, this dumb fuckwit should be condemned alongside his toy generals and commanders for the pointless and unnecessary death of this soldier.
 

PTADER

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Sombre faces, some cheap salutes and a flag drape over the coffin for cheap theatre. Immediately after, these toy generals and their commanders will be in the mess drinking and laughing away whilst the family continues to mourn.
 

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Nobody is saying that safety standards should be compromised and training should be done with reckless abandon.

All I am saying is that training has to be tough enough so that it is beneficial and actually prepares trainees for real warfare.

In my opinion a couple of deaths per 1000 troops per year should be an acceptable mortality rate in peace time training. Of course opinions will differ regarding what this figure should be but to expect it to be "zero" is unrealistic. After all people can die in their own homes when they slip in the shower.

The corollary to your argument is that if no deaths occur, the training is not "realistic". Here are two photos to show how specious your argument is.

This a magazine holder used so that the magazine of bullets is not loaded into the rifle. It is not just a requirement of training safety but operational safety.


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This is what is known as a Mac Porek. It's placed in the chamber to ensure that no bullets are carelessly left in the chamber. It is not just a requirement of training safety but operational safety.

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These devices are used in the IDF, a force that unlike the SAF, is in effect, operational everyday of the year in view of the country's circumstances. Despite its circumstances, there continues to be a tremendous emphasis on safety, hence these devices even though there is already a safety catch on such weapons.

As I have told you during the smoke grenade exchange, deaths are not necessary and are not a performance indicator of "realistic" military training. To think so is being facile. Every military force in the world has training safety regulations including operational safety regulations. The aim of such regulations are to prevent injuries or deaths, including those afflicted on the "weakest link" since in any cohort of soldiers in any military force around the world, there will always be a "weakest link".

Commanders responsible for such preventable injuries or deaths should be condemned for their irresponsibility and callous attitude, not hailed or applauded for conducting "realistic" training. Ditto for the minister in charge since they are quick to claim credit for their "courage" when things work out (as Jayakumar did after the 1991 SQ 117 hijack). As this occurred under Ng Eng Hen's watch and the culture he has created, this dumb fuckwit should be condemned alongside his toy generals and commanders for the pointless and unnecessary death of this soldier.
 

Leongsam

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Sombre faces, some cheap salutes and a flag drape over the coffin for cheap theatre. Immediately after, these toy generals and their commanders will be in the mess drinking and laughing away whilst the family continues to mourn.

What do you expect the generals to do? Move in with the family so they can all shed tears together?
 

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Did you help him ? Or ask him to get up and go for the sake of better health.

We called an ambulance and a mobile medic arrived within 10 minutes. Once he was taken to hospital we carried on with our ride.
 

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Sounds familiar. Like PAP ?

The PAP attitude is just a microcosm of the general sinkie attitude. When something goes wrong the first thing they do is find someone to blame.

For example when a kid is doing badly in school they blame the teacher and refuse to believe that their kid is retarded.
 

PTADER

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As a reservist OC, I am super welfare. I give all my men the benefit of doubt. Just finish the damn ICT and fug back to civilian life. Every individual's life and their families is far more important than some stupid SAF shit.

Well done. That is how as it should be. No point in driving your men to injuries or deaths. Let your men go in, serve that few days and fuck off intact.
 

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As a reservist OC, I am super welfare. I give all my men the benefit of doubt. Just finish the damn ICT and fug back to civilian life. Every individual's life and their families is far more important than some stupid SAF shit.

I'm the opposite I try to make full use of the short time available. Reservist training disrupts the lives of many and the last thing I want is for the whole exercise to be a waste of time.

I therefore drive my men very hard to make sure the time is well spent.
 

PTADER

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"Trust that our Army is conducting thorough investigations, as we take all major training incidents seriously. We will ask honest questions of ourselves," he added.

"We have also convened an independent Committee of Inquiry. As a public institution, we must ensure accountability. Equally important, trust that our Army will be fair. We will back our commanders and trainers up, as long as we do our job in line with sound regulations, and anchored on our values," BG Goh said.

So says this toy general in "his" letter which would have, in all likelihood, been drafted by a lowly staff officer, and then vetted either by Col Yew Chee Leung, his Asst Chief of General Staff for Personnel, or by Col Chuan Jin Kiat, his Asst Chief of General Staff for Training, and then given to this toy general to be signed.

That would show how sincere these toy generals are with their pretentiousness and the bullshit they vomit out for public relations purposes.
 

Leongsam

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That would show how sincere these toy generals are with their pretentiousness and the bullshit they vomit out for public relations purposes.

Pretentiousness and bullshit are the foundations of any PR exercise. Of course nobody means what they say. You'd be naive to think otherwise.

Take the recent apology by Starbucks for calling the police when a couple of blacks were hanging around without buying anything

Do they mean it? Of course they don't. Everybody in the US knows that when blacks are hanging around chances are they are up to no good.

 

PTADER

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Agreed , everyone could be barking up the wrong Tree.

COI on the 2 weeks on what happened to CFC Lee inside CGH.

Moral of the story ???

At the first sign of distress, he should have been stopped, not dragged. The irresponsible actions taken set him up either for a life of disability or death. The fact this occurred in a hospital is immaterial. I trust the medical profession more than I will ever trust the toy generals and their commanders who should now be scrambling around to cover their arses. It will be difficult to uncover the truth as self-preservation takes over plus lowly ranked privates will fear being "marked" and as such, will feel too intimidated to tell all that they witnessed.
 

Leongsam

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At the first sign of distress, he should have been stopped, not dragged. The irresponsible actions taken set him up either for a life of disability or death. The fact this occurred in a hospital is immaterial. I trust the medical profession more than I will ever trust the toy generals and their commanders who should now be scrambling around to cover their arses. It will be difficult to uncover the truth as self-preservation takes over plus lowly ranked privates will fear being "marked" and as such, will feel too intimidated to tell all that they witnessed.

In any army shit happens. Just get over it and move on.
 

PTADER

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Pretentiousness and bullshit are the foundations of any PR exercise. Of course nobody means what they say. You'd be naive to think otherwise.

It's precisely because there are people around who continue to be naive and gullible that such preventable injuries and deaths continue to occur. Once they wise up to all these pretentious bullshit, all these deaths will come to a grinding halt.
 
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