Chitchat Jiuhu Chinks Says Chinkland No Money! Only Talk Big About Investing In Jiuhu!

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KUANTAN, Pahang: For the first time in more than 10 years, Chan Thong Wai managed to cut himself a deal with a big contractor from China.

After a year, his construction project is already completed and he is now counting the days until the final payment promised later this month. Then it is over.

No more business with China.

“I won’t touch it. It’s very difficult. The price is very bad and the payment is very slow,” said the 49-year-old entrepreneur from Kuantan, where a growing presence of China-backed megaprojects splits voters ahead of Malaysia’s fiercest political battle in decades - the 14th general election on May 9.

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Chan has been waiting to be paid for six months. Yet he counts himself luckier than several businessmen in the state capital of Pahang who never received any payment for their work.

Unlike other foreign developers, the 49-year-old supplier said his Chinese client rarely provides documents to guarantee payment for his service.

“It’s a very dangerous, very high-risk game. No documents. No advance payment,” he told Channel NewsAsia.

“When I asked for a contract, they said: ‘You want to do it. Do it’.”

Chan is one of the local entrepreneurs subcontracted by Chinese companies to develop the Malaysia-China Kuantan Industrial Park (MCKIP) on the east coast of Peninsular Malaysia.

The megaproject forms part of a collaboration between Beijing and Kuala Lumpur to boost bilateral investments. It is divided into three phases and covers 12.14 sq km facing the South China Sea.

Forty-nine per cent of MCKIP belongs to a Chinese state-owned enterprise, Guangxi Beibu Gulf International Port Group Co Ltd.

The remaining 51 per cent is owned by a Malaysian consortium, Kuantan Pahang Holding Sdn Bhd. Currently, it is largely developed by Chinese joint venture Alliance Steel. When completed, its US$1.43 billion steel plant is expected to provide 4,000 jobs and supply the region with 3.5 million tonnes of steel annually.

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The company has pledged to make “positive contributions” to the China-Malaysia economic growth. Yet, for some Kuantan residents, there is hardly any benefit coming their way.

“All their steel is from China. Scaffolds and building materials are from China. Workers come from China. Some local hardware vendors get to supply small items like screws – and even that is hard. We quote any price and they’ll say it’s too high,” Chan said.

It’s a show to tell people they’re giving opportunities to locals. But what do we get? Nothing.

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OPPORTUNITIES VS EMPTY DEVELOPMENTS

During the previous government under incumbent Prime Minister Najib Razak, several China-backed megaprojects were sealed.

Besides MCKIP, his home state of Pahang also houses a deep-water port, which is jointly developed with China. The area too sees the construction of the US$13 billion East Coast Rail Link by the China Communications Construction Company.

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According to Najib, 85 per cent of the project is financed with a soft loan with a seven-year moratorium from the state-owned Exim Bank of China.

"There is no bank in the world which can give you 3.25 per cent and a seven-year moratorium," he told reporters during his campaign in Sabah State on Monday (Apr 30).

While some people brand them as China’s economic invasion and exploitation of Malaysia’s resources, there are others who welcome such developments.

“They create jobs for local people. When the construction is completed, they’ll need thousands of workers,” said 58-year-old taxi driver Abu Bakar bin Abdullah from Pekan.

Our economy has a lot of problems. So why shouldn’t we accept these offers?

There are a few reasons, according to Lee Chean Chung from the opposition People’s Justice Party (PKR) in Semambu. He agrees foreign investments can play a key role in recovering the economy and create jobs.

However, he is not convinced Najib and his ruling coalition Barisan Nasional have done enough to safeguard the interest of Malaysians.

“Some of them aren’t real high-impact or high-value investments. It’s a loan taken by the Malaysian government,” said 37-year-old Lee, who is vying for Pahang’s Semambu state seat in the upcoming polls.

He cited a recent spike in China’s development projects and Pahang being one of the biggest recipients. Although the eastern state does need investments to improve its infrastructure, he said, it “deserves better standards”.

“We are looking for long-term investors and partners who won’t just benefit from dollars and cents but also contribute to the prosperity, sustainability and environment of the local community. Make a difference.”

ANTI-CHINESE SENTIMENT WON'T HURT NAJIB

The opposition expressed its wish to review controversial projects if it is in power. In Pahang, they included MCKIP, the East Coast Rail Link and Australian rare earths mining company Lynas Advanced Materials Plant.

On Monday, Najib criticised the opposition for fanning anti-Chinese investment sentiment ahead of the election and urged voters to choose his coalition Barisan Nasional for a better future.

"Why should we turn a very very strong relationship to something which will be very very negative for us? If you sour the relationship with the Chinese government and China, the implication is very very very serious," he told Chinese Malaysian supporters in Sandakan, Sabah State.

"Vote with wisdom. Choose what makes your life better. Don't vote for people who stir emotions, using slogans, slanders or personal agenda."

Despite criticisms over China’s megaprojects, the sentiment is not likely to jeopardise the ruling coalition in the May 9 vote, according to Oh Ei Sun, senior adviser on international affairs from the Asia Strategy and Leadership Institute.

“The influence and potential ‘debt’ of the China projects depend on the attitude you would like to adopt,” he told Channel NewsAsia, citing what happened in China since the country’s four decades ago.

Once the public sector started investing heavily in the infrastructure such as ports, airports, rails and highways, Oh explained, the private sector players would be drawn to develop the area “to a tremendous extent”.

The result, he added, will multiply the economy by leaps and bounds while the costs for such infrastructures would more than pay themselves.

“If we as a people and society also adopt this type of very proactive attitude, making very productive use of these China-built facilities, we’d also develop our country in no time just as they did.

"And all these infrastructure costs would be insignificant when compared to the economic rewards to be reaped,” he said.

“If we still sit passively nearby, then, of course, we’ll be much burdened in the future.”


Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...ajib-pahang-before-malaysia-election-10187588
 
Looks like one belt one road is full of empty promises. It's China disguising their dumping of steel and excess building capacity under the guise of foriegn investment. Hardly any opportunities for local business participation as China supplies everything from steel to labour.

Obr will only benefit China and prove to be a huge drain on local economies (indebtedness to china) that get sucked into their game.

This is the future awaiting the world if China gets it's way.
 
Looks like one belt one road is full of empty promises. It's China disguising their dumping of steel and excess building capacity under the guise of foriegn investment. Hardly any opportunities for local business participation as China supplies everything from steel to labour.

Obr will only benefit China and prove to be a huge drain on local economies (indebtedness to china) that get sucked into their game.

This is the future awaiting the world if China gets it's way.
This is good in the long run as the local governments will be pissed off sooner or later n jeprodise these investments...ah tiong land will have troubles ahead
 
Centuries ago, the Ming Dynasty was flushed with cash and troops. They blew it on meaningless voyages to flaunt their power and achieved little except receiving cheap trinklet tributes from tiny asiatic states. The voyages were very unprofitable and did not extend China's territory nor bring in enough foreign trade to cover their costs. Chinkland's current one belt one road adventure will end in the same fashion as the Ming voyages. History is just repeating itself.
 
Centuries ago, the Ming Dynasty was flushed with cash and troops. They blew it on meaningless voyages to flaunt their power and achieved little except receiving cheap trinklet tributes from tiny asiatic states. The voyages were very unprofitable and did not extend China's territory nor bring in enough foreign trade to cover their costs. Chinkland's current one belt one road adventure will end in the same fashion as the Ming voyages. History is just repeating itself.
Actually it was because the voyages stopped n China stop engaging with the world that why they fucked up
 
I will advise people to take these complaint kings’ Complaint with a big dose of salt. This is not true for JB as I saw many Malaysians hired by the China condo developer ranging from sales to construction to maintenance to customer service staff. And I spoke to the China people who told me the opposite story of how fucked up attitude and slow the local suppliers and workers are lol. Given my experience with the local Malaysian contractors and furniture shop, anytime I will believe the China people rather than the latter.

“All their steel is from China. Scaffolds and building materials are from China. Workers come from China.Some local hardware vendors get to supply small items like screws – and even that is hard. We quote any price and they’ll say it’s too high,” Chan said.
 
Chinese in malaysia want same bumiputra rights and privileges.
 
I agree with Najib! Vote with wisdom. Vote for the party that will improve their lives, not one that will fan negative sentiments. :mad:
 
I will advise people to take these complaint kings’ Complaint with a big dose of salt. This is not true for JB as I saw many Malaysians hired by the China condo developer ranging from sales to construction to maintenance to customer service staff. And I spoke to the China people who told me the opposite story of how fucked up attitude and slow the local suppliers and workers are lol. Given my experience with the local Malaysian contractors and furniture shop, anytime I will believe the China people rather than the latter.

“All their steel is from China. Scaffolds and building materials are from China. Workers come from China.Some local hardware vendors get to supply small items like screws – and even that is hard. We quote any price and they’ll say it’s too high,” Chan said.

China private ppty developer not the same as OBR projects with majority financing from China government.
 
China private ppty developer not the same as OBR projects with majority financing from China government.
sri lanka hambantota port built by tiongs as part of obor is now on 99-year lease to prc as sri lanka cannot pay for it. ships continue to dock at colombo as no shipping lines want to dock at “unknown” and untrustworthy tiong port. becumming a ghost port as there’s nothing around it, just jungle, few roads, no towns, nobody lives nearby, zero industry, difficult access from land to port and vice versa. and the mattala airport is the most quiet in the world. wtf are they thinkng?
 
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I agree with Najib! Vote with wisdom. Vote for the party that will improve their lives, not one that will fan negative sentiments. :mad:
Unfortunately, najib got screwed by local chinaman jho low. Thats why he now deals with one from beijing.
 
Actually it was because the voyages stopped n China stop engaging with the world that why they fucked up

The voyages stopped because they were way too expensive and brought no tangible benefits to the Ming dynasty or the emperor. The OBOR enterprise will be ended for the same reasons by Xi's successor, assuming chinkland doesn't go bust yet.
 
http://www.scmp.com/news/world/amer...rival-panama-canal-going-ahead-slowly-funding

Nicaragua’s US$50b rival to Panama Canal ‘going ahead slowly’ as funding evaporates and Chinese investor keeps low profile

The canal, if finished, could give China a major foothold in Central America, a region long dominated by the United States

PUBLISHED : Thursday, 22 February, 2018, 12:49pm
UPDATED : Thursday, 22 February, 2018, 9:45pm

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Nicaragua’s ambitious dream of building a canal to rival Panama’s famous waterway looks in peril as doubts pile up over whether its Chinese investor can cough up the $50 billion needed, analysts say.

The project “has remained completely unfinanced because it doesn’t meet reliability requirements,” said Eliseo Nunez, a former opposition lawmaker who is now a university professor.

The Chinese billionaire who came forward to bankroll the project is Wang Jing, through his Hong Kong-based HKND (HK Nicaragua Canal Development) Group.

Five years ago, he won the contract given by the government of President Daniel Ortega to build and run a 276-kilometre (171-mile) canal that would slice across the country, linking the Pacific and Atlantic oceans.

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The deal made world headlines, both for its sheer scale but also as a sign of growing Chinese involvement in a region once considered the United States’ backyard.

If seen through, it has the potential to change the fortunes of Nicaragua, one of the poorest nations in Latin America.

Panama earns nearly US$2 billion a year in tolls from ships using its waterway, built by France and the US and opened a century ago.

Wang said in 2014, as he inaugurated the start of the project, that he wanted to see Nicaragua become one of the richest countries in the region.

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But a year later, the Chinese telecoms tycoon lost a big chunk of his fortune, which was estimated at US$10 billion by the financial news agency Bloomberg.

Since then, he has cut a low profile.

“He’s a ghost. We haven’t seen him since,” said Monica Lopez, a lawyer specialised in the environment who wrote a book on the proposed canal.

Feasibility studies have been carried out but never published. Other countries interested in the project, such as Iran, no longer talk about it.

Excavations started in 2016 have stopped, as has construction of freeways giving access to the canal.

Nicaragua’s Canal Authority denied work had halted.

“It’s true there have been delays, but this company (HKND) is still working on it. It’s a very big project. It’s going ahead slowly but normally,” the authority’s chief, Manuel Coronel Kautz, said.

Observers are sceptical.

The canal “lost its interest once the Chinese investor got weaker, and the Nicaraguan government doesn’t have the capacity to move the project along by itself,” said Victor Campos, director of the environmental Humboldt Centre.

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There’s another factor posing a challenge: Panama dropping relations with Taiwan to establish diplomatic ties with China last June.

“China is going to invest US$25 billion (per year) in different Latin American countries, but Nicaragua isn’t on its radar,” said a former diplomat, Mauricio Diaz.

Monica Lopez said there was always suspicion that the Chinese government was behind Wang’s investment.

“But the 19 trade accords China signed last year with Panama show that its interest is focused” on Panama, a wealthier nation with an already functioning canal, she said.

Eliseo Nunez noted that Wang’s investment was described as a private initiative.

“I’m not sure that China was behind the canal. It seems that Wang was acting alone” and “Nicaragua fell into a sort of international scam,” he said, highlighting legal uncertainties that have dogged the project.

If the project ends up being scrapped, it would remove “a sword of Damocles” hanging over the heads of thousands of poor rural landowners across Nicaragua at risk of having their properties expropriated to make way for the canal, said Violeta Granera, an opposition leader.

But as long as the plan stays on the statute books, “we won’t stop fighting” it, said Francisca Ramirez, head of an anti-canal movement that has stepped up protests.
 
China is gonna build a Kra canal and choke off SG and Najib.
 
China is gonna build a Kra canal and choke off SG and Najib.
Not likely. Unless thailand builds it to turn bangkok as the shipping hub. But its too expensive. No shipowner will pay tolls just to save 4 days of sailing.
Suez and panama canal for eaxmple save 14 days of sailing. So its worth paying.
 
sri lanka hambantota port built by tiongs as part of obor is now on 99-year lease to prc as sri lanka cannot pay for it. ships continue to dock at colombo as no shipping lines want to dock at “unknown” and untrustworthy tiong port. becumming a ghost port as there’s nothing around it, just jungle, few roads, no towns, nobody lives nearby, zero industry, difficult access from land to port and vice versa. and the mattala airport is the most quiet in the world. wtf are they thinkng?
China may need more investment to turn sri lanka port as a shipping hub. It lies along the trade route. It could be the "singspore" for cargo from and to india. Refineries, oil storage tanks, warehouses, container terminals and several regional container ships may help them do this.
 
Why the fuck does Chinkland want to build an expensive canal so far away from home? It's in America's backyard. Uncle Sam will gain control of the canal very quickly.

In the modern world of diplomacy, friendships are gained and lost too easily. Russia and Turkey were close to war 2 years ago. Today, they are firm friends. It's plain stupid to invest billions on diplomatic ties that can change quickly within a year.
 
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