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malpaso

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I not too familiar with the Perling roads. Not a local after all...haha. I like the latest DST there, D'Serembi. Great location, safe & close to gd food joints. The Taman Sutera houses, just opp D'Serembi also look v cool. I have a friend who lives in D'Serembi, and they are v happy with the area.

If you are looking for the PJ feeling eg Uptown Damansara, the nearest comparison in JB is 五福城 Taman Sutera Utama. Went there twice over the past month, and the shops are really growing by leaps & bounds. Just didn't quite like the prices being quoted...hehe.....

u should jalan around jalan undan near the school and perling apartment. just go see see. i got nice feeling there. yeah D'serambi ! i eyeing there and sutera JINGGA...
as for sutera utama, i agree the biz area sutera utama looks upmarket a bit like PJ. But where are the houses huh? it seem quite empty?? i went all the way in to taman uda utama, like not many thing there? did i make some wrong turn? beyond the biz hub near sutera mall already tun aminah. and i already mention my feeling for tun aminah.. kaka.
 
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D'Serembi houses are beautiful. $5xxk RM around mid of this year. How come I din see it :confused:

i also didn't see lah. maybe i would have bot there instead of SEC. hahah.. shucks. but not new launch, right? sub sale 500k , isit? btw it's d'serambi (with an a). it means verandah.
 
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i also didn't see lah. maybe i would have bot there instead of SEC. shucks. but not new launch, right? sub sale 500k , isit?

Yes, subsale of completed houses around $5xxk RM. Good value and bigger than those in Bukit Indah.
 

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perling location & neighbourhood i felt is actually not bad.. oh well.. live and learn.

Youngsters are attracted to modern malls and eateries. Older shops in Perling seem to be struggling to survive the competition. I buy Tebrau instead of Molek because of the big malls and eateries nearby. It is so cool to just hang around in the big mall and enjoy the sights and air-con. Parking is almost free at the malls so more... :p
 

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Taman Tun Aminah and Taman Johor Jaya are the only two known tamans to those from outstation in the 80s, most seeking employment in Sg. Bukit Indah came up later, early 90s? So it is no surprise that the population growth comes from these areas which will inevitably bring heavy human and vehicular traffic. So if you want total peace and quiet, venture far east or west.

In the early '80s when I came to JB, Taman Pelangi was THE housing estate to stay, being relatively new development. Taman Sentosa was just being developed. Taman Johor Jaya was under construction and considered very far away! Taman Kebun Teh with all the single-storey bungalows, Melodies garden, Serene Park were considered the more matured old estates. How times have changed! Now we have all the exotic names like Austin and Cascadia. Don't even know where the names have derived from? Sounds very European!
 

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In the early '80s when I came to JB, Taman Pelangi was THE housing estate to stay, being relatively new development. Taman Sentosa was just being developed. Taman Johor Jaya was under construction and considered very far away! Taman Kebun Teh with all the single-storey bungalows, Melodies garden, Serene Park were considered the more matured old estates. How times have changed! Now we have all the exotic names like Austin and Cascadia. Don't even know where the names have derived from? Sounds very European!

Thanks for confirming part of my earlier hypothesis:

3. Molek/Ponderosa/Johor Jaya should be about similar age of 20-30 years.

I like the kick of seeing my hypothesis verified :biggrin:
 

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i also didn't see lah. maybe i would have bot there instead of SEC. hahah.. shucks. but not new launch, right? sub sale 500k , isit? btw it's d'serambi (with an a). it means verandah.

not G&G one right? e road single line.
 

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i also didn't see lah. maybe i would have bot there instead of SEC. hahah.. shucks. but not new launch, right? sub sale 500k , isit? btw it's d'serambi (with an a). it means verandah.

Thanks for correcting! Phase 1 new launch was RM 400k, Phase 2 was RM 550K. Think maybe got a phase 3 but not yet launched. Din really follow. Because of self-bias, I still prefer Molek area so I didn't enquire further liao, as I feel phase 3 will not have enuff value.
 

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u should jalan around jalan undan near the school and perling apartment. just go see see. i got nice feeling there. yeah D'serambi ! i eyeing there and sutera JINGGA...
as for sutera utama, i agree the biz area sutera utama looks upmarket a bit like PJ. But where are the houses huh? it seem quite empty?? i went all the way in to taman uda utama, like not many thing there? did i make some wrong turn? beyond the biz hub near sutera mall already tun aminah. and i already mention my feeling for tun aminah.. kaka.

Houses are around 2 km away from Sutera Mall area. If you go via Bukit Indah/Nusa Bestari to Sutera Mall, the new cluster semi-ds should be on your left after you pass Nusa Bestari (signage of showhouse erected by left hand side of the road). I visited Impressions (2.5 storey terrace) show-house once. Cant rem its exact location but it should also be around that area.

Near to your Tun Aminah for gd cheap Chinese food.....haha.....Of course, I am sure you know that SEC is also near to another Chinese food mecca, Johor Jaya!

Btw, this was the Tanah Sutera show-house I saw 2 weeks ago. Details & map location.
http://thissit.com/Properties-Type-A-2-Storey-Semi-D-Concept-Homes-Property-238.aspx
 
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I have this feeling that this area has more indigenous Malay from the photos in the Internet.

Yes, I also understand that Perling has more 友族, but not really so in D'Serambi itself, which has surprisingly, quite a high % of SG Malays....
 

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Yes, I also understand that Perling has more 友族, but not really so in D'Serambi itself, which has surprisingly, quite a high % of SG Malays....

Okay, I might stick out like a sore thumb there. I have only ventured to the Layang shops behind Nusa Duta in Perling. This is side is mostly Chinese I believe. My colleague stays there.
 

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there is no offend in talking as long as no name calling. in fact, i know SEC is not cheap especially for tebrau, true. but there was no new launch in BI, and if i waited, it would be 1.1m cluster. My budget was only 500k so in fact i couldn't find any house to buy unless it is 2nd hand. If BI 2nd hand, belezza / arte already sub sale 550k RM at the time, and i have to put in +30k RM for stamping/ loan/ legal fee, and since i was no rush, i prefer new house with better landscaping moreover with DIBS is easy to just put 5k RM cheaque. But SEC is for sure cheaper than HH. Even gateway is 10 year old house already 700k ++ and house land is smaller (20x70). fyi i paid 658k for mercury. so compare to BI subsale, i pay less than 100k rm more for new house, better design house, better landscaping and environment, double gated securiy. to me, it's ok. the other place that i could find new house is austin residence and sri austin, had a tough few days to decide between these few area.
in fact on the west side, i only saw SEG (too far away for me, no shop nearby) and BI subsale.
if talk about location, adda height is more expensive to me and also i have small family, no point to buy a big house. maybe this was a regret now i saw some forummer buy big semi dee for so cheap. there are also other reason i did not pursue Adda height for personal reason.
as for your example jupiter intermediate in jun (launch is on june, mid year , not early year) i believe price is 750+ K?, those 798k is mercury corner lot.
as for maintenance the hope is after 10 year the taman still look good as everyone hopefully forced to pay the maintenance. as you know, many taman have a lot of people who don't pay maintenance. sec is strata title, so owners a legally bound from pouint of purchase to pay their fees. if sec still look good after 10 year i will be quite happy provided i haven't sell.
also i look at the surrounding area, especially who is staying nearby. SEC is next to SI, many people already stay there, lots of chinese food around. I feel no difference from many normal m'sia taman. in fact important to me is a lot of chinese food nearby, not sure if you understand my meaning. i like my roast pork rice & 4RM wanton noodle. in fact, many taman in KL a lot of people say no good, location far etc (i was guilty of it many times), after 10 years, i see with my own eyes it was not bad actually.

if one were to really talk about location & neighbourhood, my frank opinion is most of jb is not on par with KL PJ, bangsar, damansara area anyway (where the house is >1M for 30 year old house). the housing scene is not so vibrant, not much activity and so on. so mainly JB is plus point only because it's close to singapore.
also i am close to 50 already. so i think for me i can think of what happen in coming 10 year (ie retirement). As for guarantee, who can guarantee tomorrow i won't die. it has no bearing on what house i buy today, don't you think? no matter how one plan, sure can have cockup, esp in malaysia. yeah i may sell in 3 year, who know. but i can only take action today on the facts i know now.

Brother, That ONLY because JB is next to Sinkieland is a damned importantly ONLY! This is the biggest LOCATION advantage. If JB is adjacent to London, it would even be more fantastic!

And with the advantage of building from virgin vacant land, proper master planning & bigger space for the estates and houses could be undertaken as being panned out in JB. Singapore & KL don't have that kind of luxury. As you can see, aside of Sentosa Cove and Nassim Hill, No housing estates in S'pore come close to some of the very beautiful developments in JB. Even the very famous Bukit Timah area is just so so in comparison, because they don't have large swathes of land to plan a master development. JB is going to develop into a very beautiful place because of the support of wealth factor from S'pore which other parts of M'sia are not enjoying.
 

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there is nothing to agree or disagree, i don't believe in debate. i prefer to listen to everyone.
the advantage of tebrau is cheaper compare to BI. for me at least this was important, although of course prefer BI. but there were no new sub 600k DST in BI when i looked in may/june. also, i like greenery, while those BI house have less (compare to SEC for example). of course i drop by HH but the house is too ex.
i don't really like skudai or tun aminah as it bring back memory of my student days there, eating the economy rice for RM1.20 every day. not that i dislike my student day, but just feel like i don't want to go back there to retire! alhtough i love how my old UTM grounds have grown.
i am currently keeping an eye on perling and taman sutera (the old taman sutera). i like the taman feeling. i think that some of the perling area have got old but good feeling, and because it's an old taman, prices didn't shoot up that much. they really must change the street light, though. it's too dim.
i also like molek feeling. it feel a bit like PJ. i'm talking about those parts around molek pine.
i like setia indah because got a lot of chinese food there, and also cheaper than BI. if i finally retire there i won't drive around during jam time.
in fact BDO house the more i think i feel is very value for money.
in terms of property appreciation, i feel NJ and BI have shot up too much. have you heard of the term "laggard".
my feeling is NJ now very kosong. may have to wait 10 year to be vibrant. so why forward pay?

so these are also my 2 cents. just for talking.

Also, flood in skudai as posted in FB by another 27th Oct.

Flood Skudai.jpg
 
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