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Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kopi

Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

It is a ponzi scheme.



Just read ST Pg A2


Raids on Gold trader in Spore and

Malaysia.


the minimum investment was

the price of 100g gold bar.

1kg about US$48,000

Genneva has 10,000 to 20,000

customers in Spore.


Rough calculation of


the amount involved:

20000 x US$48,000 = us$960 million.


may be a new record surpassing Sunshine's
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

Towkay, you haven't Let up on my misssspeLLings yet ?..mai ar ni kwan Lai tekan wa Leh........

Datuk, you didn't misspell anything. "Genneva" is the real name of this fraudulent company. I was just remarking on the curious notion that a low class name like "Genneva" (that Swiss city they wanna associate with is spelled "Geneva") is considered by you as a strong brand name. Imagine someone proudly walking around wearing a T-shirt with a tick logo and the word "Nihe" on it. :o
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

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the company's name Genneva


should have sounded the alarm
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

Datuk, you didn't misspell anything. "Genneva" is the real name of this fraudulent company. I was just remarking on the curious notion that a low class name like "Genneva" (that Swiss city they wanna associate with is spelled "Geneva") is considered by you as a strong brand name. Imagine someone proudly walking around wearing a T-shirt with a tick logo and the word "Nihe" on it. :o

Got your cLarifications now, towkway..Mr Hai Lam ah koh..;)
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

Datuk, you didn't misspell anything. "Genneva" is the real name of this fraudulent company. I was just remarking on the curious notion that a low class name like "Genneva" (that Swiss city they wanna associate with is spelled "Geneva") is considered by you as a strong brand name. Imagine someone proudly walking around wearing a T-shirt with a tick logo and the word "Nihe" on it. :o

Capture malaysia spy creature to bring chaos n downfall.cruxx n tonychat both are 2 5 kia.
Why u call him datuk.this show tat u really r from mudland spy.Don bring your native language here.
If u don like singapore don come here.Go back y come disturb.sour grape mindset
If there is tonychat there is no cruxx the dog clone from mudland.
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

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Business Times

Date 02 Oct 2012



Author : Genevieve Cua




[SINGAPORE]


Genneva Pte Ltd, the gold trading company that has been the subject of a literal run by its customers, is under investigation by the Commercial Affairs Department (CAD) for alleged "financial improprieties".

Its Orchard Tower offices were raided by CAD yesterday. The office is closed and its website is frozen. A number of employees were taken in for questioning. The police has confirmed that investigations are ongoing.

Matthew Kurian of Regent Law, who is retained by Genneva as its legal counsel, said that the firm is conducting its own internal investigation and has appointed forensic accountants. "The company intends to honour all its obligations. They are coming up with a plan."

A letter by Lim Kieng Justin, who has just taken over as Genneva general manager, said that the discovery of financial improprieties "some time back" has led to a delay in the payment of discounts, commissions and fulfilment of buy-back guarantees. The letter, dated Sept 28, was posted on the Web.

Mr Lim is a director of an apparently related company, Genneva World Pte Ltd, which was registered for business in March this year. He is not a director of Genneva.

Mr Lim wrote that the directors have lodged the necessary police reports and put in place new management staff. ". . . the directors are in the midst of negotiations with an external party who is prepared to assist the company and see it through this financial crisis. The objective of the directors is to ensure that all obligations to the company's customers and consultants are met."

He also wrote that the company would organise dialogue sessions with customers and agents in 7-10 working days. He urged customers and agents to remain calm and "help us work out (an) amicable solution for everyone".

Genneva is understood to have received several letters of demand from aggrieved customers who have entrusted gold to the firm or are owed the fulfilment of Genneva's buyback undertaking.

BT reported last week that at least two customers have filed suits in the Subordinate Court for Genneva to fulfil the terms of its buyback. At least one has secured an interlocutory judgement pending an assessment of costs. Prior to the judgement, Genneva did not respond nor contest the suit. Mr Kurian said that Genneva was looking into making an application to the courts for the judgement to be set aside and to file a defence.

Goh Kok Yeow of De Souza Lim & Goh, who represents the plaintiff Lee Bee Ghok in the case, said: "We will not agree and will vigorously oppose the application because they have no legal reason to do so."

Genneva operates under a police licence that allows it to deal in second-hand gold. Its model is to sell gold to customers at a hefty premium to the market. As at August, it listed a price of $96 per gram on its website. The indicative retail gold price at UOB yesterday was about $70.15 per gram or $70,149 per kilobar.

Genneva customers buy gold at a 1.5 or 2 per cent so-called discount off its list price. Genneva undertakes to buy back the gold in one or three months, at the list price, and customers pocket the 1.5 or 2 per cent discount. Assuming a monthly rollover, they stand to earn as much as 24 per cent year. Lately, some customers have been offered a discount of as much as 2.5 per cent.

The last few weeks have seen Genneva grapple with its worst case market scenario - that of a rush among customers for the exit. In that time, it has imposed a limit on the daily buyback of gold that it can do - reportedly five kilobars a day. Agents are also reportedly owed commissions for more than six months.

Three Genneva directors - Marcus Yee Yuen Seng, Ng Poh Weng and Chin Wai Leong, who are also directors of Genneva Sdn Bhd - are being sued by Bank Negara in Malaysia for alleged illegal deposit taking and alleged offences under anti-money laundering laws. The case is ongoing.

Genneva is in the Monetary Authority of Singapore's Investor Alert list, which tells investors to be on guard against unlicensed entities. Other gold companies such as The Gold Guarantee and Asia Pacific Bullion are also on the list.

Source: Business Times
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

Datuk, you didn't misspell anything. "Genneva" is the real name of this fraudulent company. I was just remarking on the curious notion that a low class name like "Genneva" (that Swiss city they wanna associate with is spelled "Geneva") is considered by you as a strong brand name. Imagine someone proudly walking around wearing a T-shirt with a tick logo and the word "Nihe" on it. :o

Capture malaysia spy creature to bring chaos n downfall.cruxx n tonychat both are 2 5 kia.
Why u call him datuk.this show tat u really r from mudland spy.Don bring your native language here.
If u don like singapore don come here.Go back y come disturb.sour grape mindset
If there is tonychat there is no cruxx the dog clone from mudland.A dog can never hide its tail from its master.
 
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Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

Capture malaysia spy creature to bring chaos n downfall.cruxx n tonychat both are 2 5 kia.
Why u call him datuk.this show tat u really r from mudland spy.Don bring your native language here.
If u don like singapore don come here.Go back y come disturb.sour grape mindset
If there is tonychat there is no cruxx the dog clone from mudland.A dog can never hide its tail from its master.

Bro, from your 2 5 kia Lingo; guessed you are a Cantonese ?..:)
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

Capture malaysia spy creature to bring chaos n downfall.cruxx n tonychat both are 2 5 kia.
Why u call him datuk.this show tat u really r from mudland spy.Don bring your native language here.
If u don like singapore don come here.Go back y come disturb.sour grape mindset
If there is tonychat there is no cruxx the dog clone from mudland.A dog can never hide its tail from its master.

I stole it from Equalisation. Found it quite funny when he referred to me as "Datok". :D
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

I stole it from Equalisation. Found it quite funny when he referred to me as "Datok". :D

He knew u r a mudland dog.u dare to deny
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

..Imagine someone proudly walking around wearing a T-shirt with a tick logo and the word "Nihe" on it. :o

don't anyhow say leh, i remember a few years ago some young punk gwai lan kia bought a pair of upside down Nike tick logo shoes from Shenzhen for the fun of it & was spotted by fashionistas in London & suddenly everyone wanted a pair becos it made such a anti-establishment statement! another famous incident back in the late 80s, some big name fashion designer owed his fame & fortune to a bunch of fake silkscreened t-shirts of his designs, everybody wanted it becos they thought it was cool on a t-shirt instead of his original over priced garments! eventually people couldn't find the fake t-shirts & ended up buying the originals, so it was a win - win situation for him.
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

bro,
how to check if the gold is virgin?

Virgin gold means gold that were never left to sleep at pawnshops.
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

But that piece of gold at hand was purchased at a mark-up price. So, even if it can be sold off in the open market, one would still sustain a "loss" which is the difference between the mark-up purchase price and the open market price. Therefore, they've conned you of that portion of the inflated price.

Apparently he has been earning good interest for some time so perhaps the early members benefited as their earned interest may have made up for the "extra premium" they paid for the gold. Just glad I never bother to enquire further ....

In any Ponzi scheme, its the late entrants that end up carrying the bomb.
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

Datuk, you didn't misspell anything. "Genneva" is the real name of this fraudulent company. I was just remarking on the curious notion that a low class name like "Genneva" (that Swiss city they wanna associate with is spelled "Geneva") is considered by you as a strong brand name. Imagine someone proudly walking around wearing a T-shirt with a tick logo and the word "Nihe" on it. :o



Don't be a kuku la since when do ppl name their companies with the same exact spelling as that of a city? Knn and you claim to know everything. The spelling of their co's name per se isn't the problem cos the co is a seperate entity from the swiss city. Btw your comparison is rather dumb. If a company that isn't nike starts to even call their brand after the actual nike then they would be fucked.
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

See what happened to Temasek Review and

Temasek Group ???
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

Virgin gold means gold that were never left to sleep at pawnshops.

ooo... thanks bro :):):)
does that mean those pieces of gold (after having been laid in the pawnshop) undergoes hymen reconstruction when they get melted and reshaped into new pieces?
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

Jail sentence also break record bo? Current one is 46 years for over 100million.


Just read ST Pg A2


Raids on Gold trader in Spore and

Malaysia.


the minimum investment was

the price of 100g gold bar.

1kg about US$48,000

Genneva has 10,000 to 20,000

customers in Spore.


Rough calculation of


the amount involved:

20000 x US$48,000 = us$960 million.


may be a new record surpassing Sunshine's
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

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See Pg 6 and Pg 7 TNP 4 Oct 12



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Investors in a quandary
October 4, 2012 - 12:59am


http://www.tnp.sg/content/investors-quandary
Some investors have formed a group and are considering taking legal action against Genneva, the gold trading company which was raided on Monday by the Commercial Affairs Department.

They claim their monthly payments have been delayed.

But others are more sanguine. Forex trader C.Y. Wong told The New Paper that he was in a “good position” as he had recouped his investments made two years ago.

A lawyer told TNP that the likelihood of customers suing Genneva to get their money back would depend on the “nature of the agreement that the customer enters into with the company”.

Read the full story in The New Paper on Thursday (Oct 4).
 
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