Security Guards Here Are Paid Peanuts And Work 12 Hours A Day.

[wuqi256]

Whats wrong with having Malaysians work as guards?

Nothing wrong for me but i wished more for could be done for locals.

There were some good ones. Some of my best friends back there were from Malaysia as
they didn't bully me like some other teams did.

I quickly became their shift in charge and took care of them and treated all equally.


Only took issue with your statement:

Originally Posted by Kinana
They do employ locals only. Don't you know?
Are sinkies like you willing to fork out more for management for your condo?
Are sinkies willing to be more polite to these security guards?
The solution is in your hands.

Also observed your other postings, are you trying to severely discredit the government
or our vaunted education system. Next thing i know, they need to come up with a 10
year series for current affairs for our young. :(

 

[wuqi256]

imagine old uncles cannot retire got to stay awake work graveyard shift......all for 1.2K pittance.
12 hours work thru the night......where got any time left to lead a quality life? this is sinkieland......hand to mouth existence.......hand stop mouth stop

Absolutely agree with you and Zeddy. I know one Uncle who had worked for 2 firms, my boss kept an eye closed as one was a day shift was the other was a night shift at the factory. He had a son who needed lots of medical fees back then and wife got retrenched from Maxtor if i remember.

We called him the "Iron Man" Sadly he passed away a couple of years ago after getting home from his shift. :(

 

[zeddy]

I am very suprised and saddened by the postings from this Kinana, maybe he/she is trying to be EXTREMELY sarcastic in a way?

I have worked in many jobs, even worked as a security guard before years back when i was struggling to make ends meet before NS. Back then, already so many Malaysians, more than half of the guards at condos, factories and major shopping centres like Anchor Point, Bugis were 80% from Malaysia. Even most of the Cisco guards were from Malaysia.

The sheer ignorance (if its really true and i really hope not) is more than mind boggling. Its award winning.

Yes you are right.. Our Auxilliary forces also employs these Malaysians..

Even our Prisons Service recruits these Malaysians as Junior Prison officers.. Sadly many of these Malaysians especially their indians are too on the ball when carrying out their duties.. A close friend of mine used to be from the Prisons Service.. Told me that these Malaysians are notorious snitchers, would always report on many minor things to the Senior Officers..

I apologize Bro Wuqi if I sounds a racist.. But many of these Malaysian Indians would even backstab their Sinkie colleagues for the sake of promotion.. My friend was one such victim.. His promotion was affected because a Malaysian Ah Neh played him out.. He resigned after just 2 years..He told me his case was not an isolated case.. Many more Sinkies being played out by their Malaysians counterparts behind the walls of the Changi prison.. These Malaysian Ah nehs are affectionately called '' Hantu '' by the Sinkie staff due to their heineous ways in gaining promotion fast..

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Absolutely agree with you and Zeddy. I know one Uncle who had worked for 2 firms, my boss kept an eye closed as one was a day shift was the other was a night shift at the factory. He had a son who needed lots of medical fees back then and wife got retrenched from Maxtor if i remember.

We called him the "Iron Man" Sadly he passed away a couple of years ago after getting home from his shift. :(

I knew a young malay chap who worked as guard in my office back then......day job, study part time course and permanent night shift guard.....i knew about his background after i caught him showering in the office toilet. He practically lived out of a haversack.....

 

[zeddy]

imagine old uncles cannot retire got to stay awake work graveyard shift......all for 1.2K pittance.
12 hours work thru the night......where got any time left to lead a quality life? this is sinkieland......hand to mouth existence.......hand stop mouth stop

I agree.. Sometimes I do pity them.. These guards at my workplace used to be from SPF many years back.. Pension money not enough for them.. Thats why they had to work as security now.. Sometimes I would buy them packets of nasi lemak or Kopi O when I come to the office in the mornin.. Nasi Lemak not expensive.. Just $1.50 for a small packet at near home.. In return they would always inform the staff swiftly each time my Regional big boss comes to the office for a surprise visit..

 

[wuqi256]

Yes you are right.. Our Auxilliary forces also employs these Malaysians..

Even our Prisons Service recruits these Malaysians as Junior Prison officers.. Sadly many of these Malaysians especially their indians are too on the ball when carrying out their duties.. A close friend of mine used to be from the Prisons Service.. Told me that these Malaysians are notorious snitchers, would always report on many minor things to the Senior Officers..

I apologize Bro Wuqi if I sounds a racist.. But many of these Malaysian Indians would even backstab their Sinkie colleagues for the sake of promotion.. My friend was one such victim.. His promotion was affected because a Malaysian Ah Neh played him out.. He resigned after just 2 years..He told me his case was not an isolated case.. Many more Sinkies being played out by their Malaysians counterparts behind the walls of the Changi prison.. These Malaysian Ah nehs are affectionately called '' Hantu '' by the Sinkie staff due to their heineous ways in gaining promotion fast..

Oh wow, i didn't know that, no apologies, only back there was so good. I guess there wasn't a lot of promotion opportunities there. I had a very unpleasant India boss back when i was in a UK company and he was from Malaysia. Was so bad that i quit, shortly after he was fired as he didn't turn up for work for more than 2 weeks and was unreachable. He also turn up to work every day in suit, tie and SLIPPERS.

When i had an accident after sending my colleagues and him back from lunch, he said i should have been more careful as i will die next time (even though other cars ran a red light and hit me) When i left the company, even though it was an ok departure. He said to me on the last day, be careful, don't get into more car accidents and drive carefully lest i get into one again. He was upset with me as i didn't fire a fellow Singaporean for a very trivial (woman related) reason. That person until now is still my friend. Because of that, this Indian chap made life a living hell for me and even resorted to using insults to me or twisting my names into something insulting when he sends me email. It didn't help that he was almost always drunk when coming to work.

This old guy (formerly) was from Philip Morris, i just didn't want to argue and just left as luckily i was headhunted at that time.

 

[wuqi256]

I knew a young malay chap who worked as guard in my office back then......day job, study part time course and permanent night shift guard.....i knew about his background after i caught him showering in the office toilet. He practically lived out of a haversack.....

I was like that last time, part of the toughening regime my dad put me through. I am so glad i survived it but having gone through all that, i became quite resilient and learned alot of things as well. Times were so hard back then, i slept at stairwells sometimes.

 

[wuqi256]

I agree.. Sometimes I do pity them.. These guards at my workplace used to be from SPF many years back.. Pension money not enough for them.. Thats why they had to work as security now.. Sometimes I would buy them packets of nasi lemak or Kopi O when I come to the office in the mornin.. Nasi Lemak not expensive.. Just $1.50 for a small packet at near home.. In return they would always inform the staff swiftly each time my Regional big boss comes to the office for a surprise visit..

You are a good man, its always good to be kind to people no matter what their station or position in life is. You never know when someone may one day be of great assistance. I still think that people appreciate kindness.

 

[Kohliantye]

They do employ locals only. Don't you know?
Are sinkies like you willing to fork out more for management for your condo?
The solution is in your hands.

Kinana, you don't seems to even know the actual situation.

What do you mean by "they do employ locals only"?

As for second sentence of yours, I am sorry to say that I don't live in any condo but in an ageing 3-room flat.

As for sentence 3, if only the solution could be in my hands.

Put yourselves in the feet of these poor local guards and then maybe, an I further emphasise, then ONLY MAYBE, you, my Learned Friend, would be in a better position to understand the real plight of these forgotten folks.

And a parting advice, "if you do not have ammunition, NEVER EVER FIRE YOUR GUN, for in the still of the night that clicking mechanism in your empty gun may expose you in becoming a target of the person that you took aim of.

No hard feelings.

Have a good day

 

[pc2009]

Hello uncle, i have seen PRC and Myanmar taxi drivers before.

The only job exclusively for sinkie is our NS.

Yes, even MPs and Ministars' job are open to FTs. Only the TH, GIC and PM, MM remains $$$ingaporeans.

 

[pc2009]

I was treated rudely by a Malaysian indian lady custom officer lately. Checked with another officer nearby and he told me she was a Malaysian and shook his head.

Like I said b4, many of us r not aware that the Malaysians are the biggest gang in Singapore protecting its own kind and crowding out the locals, just becos they have been around for so long.

And, security is a joke in Singapore. They hire FTs at customs, and most of the security guards (at MRT stations, hospitals, etc) are old and weak and some a bit abnormal (no insult, just facts). Was at TTHS recently and saw this bunch of security guards at the entrance and noticed that a few of them are a bit weird.

 

[palden]

Only Durai is paid peanuts.

 

[Perspective]

A bit about the security industry:

As the thread states, the security is in a condo. Condo security is very different from the other places. The places people live in (rather than work in or shop in) see the ugliest scene. Neighbours in a dispute or an insect running into the homes of a resident, they immediately charge at the security outside the gates. Being expected to be police-technician-pestman-counsellor all rolled into one, the security can only do what is in his ability. Some security happens to know a bit of M & E in his own capacity and can help, but ultimately it is a fatigue as they were meant to safeguard common property. At the end, for what the security cannot do, they convince the resident that they cannot help but not after buckets full of saliva and caustic remarks are passed on them, making their life miserable. The resident doesn't leave because they are satisfied but because they have asked for the impossible (of which they themselves does not know) and have naturally given up screaming.

Having seen/heard many of such impractical and unrealistic requests, I have always wondered if these residents deep down in their hearts, know the security can't do anything with an inkling of hope that they can, but the main aim is to let go steam at these condo employees after a hard day's work without realising the implication - which is high turnover. High turnover means the security you have at any one time is unfamiliar with the place.

The only common agreement here is the long working hours. I have always wondered why the industry does not push for three 8-hour shift . But security may find their salary go down by one-third, so I do not know if they mind this.

 

[Cestbon]

Gov must come out with new rule.
Not FT as guard.
Or only less than 20% can be FT(only Malaysian FT).
Then see how management play with the new rule.
Suddenly wage will increase because all management try to gather same pool of people.

 

[Debonerman]

Gov must come out with new rule.
Not FT as guard.
Or only less than 20% can be FT(only Malaysian FT).
Then see how management play with the new rule.
Suddenly wage will increase because all management try to gather same pool of people.

And why had the Government never thought of that? Brilliant! Way to go Cestbon!.....LOL

 

[Conqueror]

Doing Nothin' Iz Der Hardest

To pay me a salary and ask me to do nothing, I won't take it. I'm someone who prefers to work work work. Time passes faster this way.

Old folks can do nothing by focusing on a distant object. According to an ex-employee from a govt sector, the hardest thing to do is to do nothing. Can you imagine that you keep looking at your watch like a Changi 'holiday' camper awaiting for dinner time and TV ? The time moves slowly. You have to possess lots of patience. Maybe, must do Zen or something.

Conqueror's dictionary, the meaning of "Patience" = the ability to waste time on something without getting flustered or frustrated.

 

[johnny333]

The only common agreement here is the long working hours. I have always wondered why the industry does not push for three 8-hour shift . But security may find their salary go down by one-third, so I do not know if they mind this.

I notice that in some condos they change the security company on a yearly basis because of price pressures. Can blame the PAP because each time they increase the price of utilities, condos will try to cut costs so as to avoid increasing the maintenance fees for residents.

 

[GoldenDragon]

I know that Police also take in PRs now.

any jobs still remain exclusively for sinkies? i kow taxi drivers are....

Licensed pimps in Geylang all S'poreans.