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Wayang Worker's Party vote with PAP for the most bloated $79.9B budget in history

Papsmearer

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sinkies are opportunists, backstabbers and betrayers, and will conveniently jump to the winning party when the occasion warrants abandoning ship. not sam and i. we are loyal and hardcore to the very end. :biggrin:

Is that why you deserted the country and the PAP and fled to the Bay Area? Is that why Sam deserted the country and fled to NZ to fuck sheeps? U so loyal and hardcore, come back lah.
 

mojito

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read my post.57

how a <10% codriver on a bicycle could slap the >90% driver in a ferrari?

either you learned how to wireless-slap like those old kongfu movie or you are sleep-talking.

So how many seats does the codriver want before they can slap? 20% kapkia? 40% sedan? Or 60% benz? Talk cock lah!
 

eatshitndie

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Is that why you deserted the country and the PAP and fled to the Bay Area? Is that why Sam deserted the country and fled to NZ to fuck sheeps? U so loyal and hardcore, come back lah.

we did not abandon nor desert sg. we continue to contribute to sg's excellence and well being anywhere we go. one doesn't need to be physically present everyday in sg to contribute to sg with today's global infrastructure and technology. by the way, i live in bedok and frequent the reservoir to look for sinkies who don't make it out alive.
 

Charlie99

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When u are called on the carpet, you change the goal post. We are talking about Singapore. Not malaysia. Why do you care what the malaysians spend their education budget on? Its the malaysian taxpayer's money. If they want to allow their govt to give it to friends and families, its not our business. Our business is to ask why the budget keeps getting bigger even though our birth rate is at a record low (meaning less students in the education system). This is a logical question. Less and less students caused by declining birth rate cannot result in a record education funding. Are they giving every singapore student a guaranteed paid spot in the uni of their choice? NO. Are they sending tons of sinkies students overseas on free scholarships? NO. Are all school fees for primary and secondary students waived? NO. Then, why do they need so much money? If you fail to see this logic, then go and get your brain examined. How much of these education funding has been diverted to non singaporeans in the form of scholarships and bursaries, etc. Did the WP ask these relevant questions?

Lets say that they did and that they phrased it in exactly the same way I stated above. THEY ENDE UP VOTING FOR IT ANYWAY. How fake can you be? Show the conviction of your argument and vote against the budget. You will not derail the passing of the Budget but you would have made a moral stand.



EXCELLENT!

Keep it up.

Why are the MP's from the WP, not asking such relevant questions.

I do not care how bright and worthy those foreigners are, I disagree with the government's policies of giving those foreigners scholarships, living allowances and a place in our local universities, when our Singaporeans do not have an opportunity to attend our universities.
 
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Leongsam

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Are they giving every singapore student a guaranteed paid spot in the uni of their choice? NO. Are they sending tons of sinkies students overseas on free scholarships? NO. Are all school fees for primary and secondary students waived? NO. Then, why do they need so much money? If you fail to see this logic, then go and get your brain examined. How much of these education funding has been diverted to non singaporeans in the form of scholarships and bursaries, etc. Did the WP ask these relevant questions?

The reason why money is not being thrown at Sinkie students is because there's no point investing resources in what is essentially a lost cause. Money helps entities that have unrealised potential. When it comes to sinkies, everyone, WP included, knows that sinkies are a spent force.

The PAP is doing the right thing by attracting new blood to take the country to the next level. Every dog has its day. When it comes to sinkies, that day is long gone.
 

Papsmearer

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frying cold rice here also?

you think hybernation between 2006 and 2011 could win aljunied?

if anything, the boy scout george and his team then hybernation until now they no more multi $m part time ministar salary.

What are you saying here? ARe you saying that LTK and the WP worked the ground strenously between 2006 and 2011 to lay the groundwork for a win in the 2011 GE? Are you saying they worked hard to earn the people's support so that these people could elect them into Parliament? Well that's even much worse. Because after all their hard work and earning the People's trust, they ended laying a egg in Parliament and became 6 blind mice. They have essentially betrayed the people of Aljunied GRC. Not because they couldn't run the TC properly (that is just BS crap from the PAP to discredit them), but because they could not even be the voice of the people in Parliament. Everyone knows the PAP has not been the advocates for the people in a long time. People want their own real voice to be heard. That is why 40% voted against the PAP. But Why do I say the WP are not the voice of the people? Well, you can't be the FUCKING VOICE OF THE PEOPLE AND THE ADVOCATES OF THE PEOPLE when you keep FUCKING VOTING WITH THE PAP ON THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE SHIT BILLS THEY PASS.

Which part of this don't you understand? I suggest you keep quiet before I keep shooting more holes into your argument and start really embarassing the WP with excerpts from the Parliamentary hearings and their own website.
 

Papsmearer

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The reason why money is not being thrown at Sinkie students is because there's no point investing resources in what is essentially a lost cause. Money helps entities that have unrealised potential. When it comes to sinkies, everyone, WP included, knows that sinkies are a spent force.

The PAP is doing the right thing by attracting new blood to take the country to the next level. Every dog has its day. When it comes to sinkies, that day is long gone.

But if the PAP don't throw money at sinkie students, how will they identify future scholar generals and por lumpars? How will they identify next gen leeders? The foundation and basis of all scholar generals and former BG, MG, LG ministers is free uni education. See how stupid your comment is?
 

Papsmearer

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By all means express what you are unhappy with WP if you really mean it, but really disappointed people won't resort to disingenious statements.

Take Goh Meng Seng. He portrays his departure from WP as one out of disillusionment and not jealousy, but can find no genuine issues with WP except to clutch at straws with issues like giving of a quotation (not invoice) or the lie that WP posters not being put up until end of the campaign.

We have to realize that not every one here is an armchair critic. Some may be actively volunteering for an opposition party that is not WP. And they believe that in a one-party state, their candidates loses the election but in a two-party system, their candidates loses their deposits. So they want to do something about this at all costs.

I don't know GMS, never met him, not interested in why he left the WP. You claim I am resorting to disingenious statements. Where are these disingenious statements I made? I stated that the WP voted side by side and arm in arm with the PAP on this 2015 bloated $80 billion budget. Which part of this statment is disengenious? Which part is a lie? Halimah Yacob herself stated that the vote for the budget was unanimous even among the oppo and NCMP.

I also stated that the past voting history of the WP has been overwhelmingly with the side of the PAP and they have only voted twice against PAP bills. Therefore they must be in almost complete agreement with the PAP. What kind of oppo is this? Which part of my statement is not factual? WHich part is a lie? Which part is disingenious? Kindly point it out or shut up.
 

Leongsam

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But if the PAP don't throw money at sinkie students, how will they identify future scholar generals and por lumpars? How will they identify next gen leeders? The foundation and basis of all scholar generals and former BG, MG, LG ministers is free uni education. See how stupid your comment is?

There are a handful of very talented individuals and they're all members of the PAP thank goodness.
 

SgParent

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When u are called on the carpet, you change the goal post. We are talking about Singapore. Not malaysia. Why do you care what the malaysians spend their education budget on? Its the malaysian taxpayer's money. If they want to allow their govt to give it to friends and families, its not our business. Our business is to ask why the budget keeps getting bigger even though our birth rate is at a record low (meaning less students in the education system). This is a logical question. Less and less students caused by declining birth rate cannot result in a record education funding. Are they giving every singapore student a guaranteed paid spot in the uni of their choice? NO. Are they sending tons of sinkies students overseas on free scholarships? NO. Are all school fees for primary and secondary students waived? NO. Then, why do they need so much money? If you fail to see this logic, then go and get your brain examined. How much of these education funding has been diverted to non singaporeans in the form of scholarships and bursaries, etc. Did the WP ask these relevant questions?
pls i am not shameless like you.

go read back who started the "malaysia budget" talk. so i replied on that and i become change goal post?

Lets say that they did and that they phrased it in exactly the same way I stated above. THEY ENDE UP VOTING FOR IT ANYWAY. How fake can you be? Show the conviction of your argument and vote against the budget. You will not derail the passing of the Budget but you would have made a moral stand.
waste time here eeh?

i repeat after my post.47 and post.70-
actually where did you read the wp did or did not debate anything on this bill? this is the how many read only of the bill?
 

SgParent

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So how many seats does the codriver want before they can slap? 20% kapkia? 40% sedan? Or 60% benz? Talk cock lah!
pls dun call me that, i am so hurt.

if you truly believe a <10% market share sme got any chance to slap a >90% market share mnc then i have a bridge that will suit you. interested?
 

SgParent

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What are you saying here? ARe you saying that LTK and the WP worked the ground strenously between 2006 and 2011 to lay the groundwork for a win in the 2011 GE? Are you saying they worked hard to earn the people's support so that these people could elect them into Parliament?
if you have not already heard about this then dun blame me.

blame your narrow mindedness, shallowness that an oppo party/individual must thump chest shout slogan at hlp, anything less is white scum lite.

Well that's even much worse. Because after all their hard work and earning the People's trust, they ended laying a egg in Parliament and became 6 blind mice. They have essentially betrayed the people of Aljunied GRC. Not because they couldn't run the TC properly (that is just BS crap from the PAP to discredit them), but because they could not even be the voice of the people in Parliament. Everyone knows the PAP has not been the advocates for the people in a long time. People want their own real voice to be heard. That is why 40% voted against the PAP. But Why do I say the WP are not the voice of the people? Well, you can't be the FUCKING VOICE OF THE PEOPLE AND THE ADVOCATES OF THE PEOPLE when you keep FUCKING VOTING WITH THE PAP ON THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE SHIT BILLS THEY PASS.
i will agree only if you replace all the "people" with "aljunied voters".

Which part of this don't you understand? I suggest you keep quiet before I keep shooting more holes into your argument and start really embarassing the WP with excerpts from the Parliamentary hearings and their own website.
at least i dun accuse others for voting this or that when it is only the how many read of the bill?
 

SgParent

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There are a handful of very talented individuals and they're all members of the PAP thank goodness.
this 1 i have to agree wholeheartedly.

the truly recognised talents are already identified to be among the close friends and families.
 

tanwahp

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I don't know GMS, never met him, not interested in why he left the WP. You claim I am resorting to disingenious statements. Where are these disingenious statements I made? I stated that the WP voted side by side and arm in arm with the PAP on this 2015 bloated $80 billion budget. Which part of this statment is disengenious? Which part is a lie? Halimah Yacob herself stated that the vote for the budget was unanimous even among the oppo and NCMP.

I also stated that the past voting history of the WP has been overwhelmingly with the side of the PAP and they have only voted twice against PAP bills. Therefore they must be in almost complete agreement with the PAP. What kind of oppo is this? Which part of my statement is not factual? WHich part is a lie? Which part is disingenious? Kindly point it out or shut up.

Being disingenious is not necessarily being dishonest but use of selective facts to skew the truth. You have the facts, but want to portray a specific perception.

You said WP votes with PAP most of the time. You fail to mention that this is not unique and happens in most parliaments. Why SDP, RP, Singfirst did not include in their election platform a promise that they will not vote with PAP most of time in parliament. I challenge them to but am sure they know better.

You say voting for something means accepting everything wholesale. Didn't SDP, NSP etc. contest in GRCs? Does this mean they support GRCs?

You tried to imply that WP only spoke on childcare expenses which implies only one MP spoke during the budget. And you say this is not a lie?
 
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