Urgent case here with hostile FT tenant - can someone help?

[RandomMonkey]

Hi Bros

This is an earnest appeal for your help. Please do not flame or insult or make sarcastic remarks, I beg you. I am seriously desperate and need help.

- Around 1 month ago, I rented my condo to a FT from HK (but he has an American passport). He claimed that he is employed 'in the financial industry' but later we found that he never goes to work. Meaning that he is probably unemployed. He was unreasonable from day 1, stating that the apartment had many defects and requesting wholesale structural changes. I told him that if he was not happy, he can just choose not to rent the place. He then backtracked and said he would take the place "as is" but requested for a cheaper rent in exchange. I agreed, just wanting to get this matter over with.

- I let him take the keys on March 10 as I am a nice guy. However he refused to sign the contract until March 15, citing some technicalities that he wanted re-worded. He requested that the contract be postdated to Mar 15, meaning he already got 5 days free stay. Unable to do anything, and not wanting to kick up a big fuss, I agreed.

- A week ago, he informed me that he would from now on no longer be paying me rent. For the following reasons:

(a) The construction noise from the neighbouring construction is very noisy and thus makes the place 'untenantable' (totally ridiculous)
(b) He could only access wi-fi from the living room and not his room (again, not my prob)
(c) The washing machine was spoilt (but it was not spoilt when he moved in and he had already exhausted the two week period where he could highlight problems for me to fix, I have witnesses)
(d) There was a horrible smell of cooking gas coming from the gas stove (again, was not there when he moved in, I have witnesses)
(e) There was a horrible smell of sewage and urine coming from the toilet (again, was not there when I moved in, I have witnesses)

- He claimed that he would not pay me rent until "all the faults are rectified" which is ridiculous cos there is no way I can stop the construction

- He then said he wanted to terminate the agreement and proposed that I refund him his last month's rent, deposit and let him have 2 more weeks to move out (effectively letting him have 2 months free stay!!)

- I responded by saying that since he clearly communicated his unwillingness to pay rent and cooperate with me, the TA was henceforth terminated due to his breach. I forfeited his deposit and informed him that he has to move out or face police/legal action. I am now the legal occupant of the property, not him, and hence he is trespassing on my property. He did not respond.

- I called police down to confront him after a few days. Police ordered him to move out by today (16/4) and also informed him that I have the right to change the lock on 16/4 if he refused to move out.

- I also terminated the SP Services account (no electricity no water) and the internet service which are all held in my name, since he didn't pay me for them, in the hope that it would force him to move out.

- He did not move out by today and when I sent people down to change the lock, HE reported police and said he was the legal occupant and we cannot anyhow change the lock cos it constitutes illegal confinement. He also screamed and yelled and acted aggressive, physically resisting against our attempt to change the lock. Police said it's a civil matter and backtracked on their original stand. Their new stand is we can only change the lock IF HE IS NOT PRESENT INSIDE. If I change the lock when at least 1 person is inside, then it's illegal confinement. There are 3 people living in there, him, his wife and his 18 month baby. He is a totally unreasonable CB and cannot be reasoned with. He thinks that he deserves a refund and 2 weeks free stay.

- Police said that I can either wait for him to leave and change the lock when he is not at home, or apply for court order to evict him (which will take at least one month, plus more time and resources). I would then have to sue him for damages, which he 100% won't pay because he is not even a legal Singapore resident and has no job or assets here, so there is nothing I can claim against and no way I can enforce the debt.

- Can someone please advise me on what I can do? Perhaps someone with police knowledge (Ram?) can give some useful advice?


Singapore Police seems to be always siding with the FTs even when it is clear cut that I am the wronged party!!


HELP!! I am really desperate as I have to put up with a squatter in my house and yet I have to pay the mortgage on this house for a few more months! This moron refuses to pay rent and I have to incur huge loss cos I can't evict him and can't rent it out to anyone else while in the meantime paying mortgage!

 

[Alamaking]

Give back the 2 week fund, if he owe you rent, minus from there lor, if I were you, I just change the lock, throw his stuffs outside, bor chap.....

But then again, i dun believe this happen to you personally, you reminds me of that geylanguncle, LOL

 

[RonRon]

Give me the address, I will personally go down there and listen to his side of story

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

No utilities can stay how long? Go swimming pool to take showers?

 

[ZorrorroZ]

Since it's a civil matter, and you are the owner of the house... why don't you get a group of friends, go into your OWN house, take stuff that does not belong to you and chuck outside.

Then, manhandle him out.

Crowd his wife and child out of the house as well... make sure don't touch them, or they may cry molest (but the guy you can push out - no worries - police won't take action as long as you don't hurt him too badly).

Have some women present and someone video the whole thing to prove you do not molest the woman.

Once they are outside, lock the gate with a chain and padlock so they can't get in.

Then get security of the condo to escort him off the property.

 

[RandomMonkey]

I can guarantee that this is happening to me personally right now. I am willing to place a bet of $50k. If I fail to show evidence, I lose. If I can show evidence, I win.

This has been giving me huge headache for last 4 days.

I am not really prepared to refund him anything at all, since I already gave him 5 days free, but HIS REQUEST is that I give him back EVERYTHING (deposit + rent that he already paid) PLUS another two weeks free!

Tell me if I can even consider such a ridiculous request??

 

[RandomMonkey]

Since it's a civil matter, and you are the owner of the house... why don't you get a group of friends, go into your OWN house, take stuff that does not belong to you and chuck outside.

Then, manhandle him out.

Crowd his wife and child out of the house as well... make sure don't touch them, or they may cry molest (but the guy you can push out - no worries - police won't take action as long as you don't hurt him too badly).

Have some women present and someone video the whole thing to prove you do not molest the woman.

Once they are outside, lock the gate with a chain and padlock so they can't get in.

Then get security of the condo to escort him off the property.

Is this legal?

The police advised that we cannot chuck his belongings out as he is still the 'occupant' of the place (whether legal or not)

And according to them, the 'legality' of his occupancy is not a matter for the police to decide but for the courts, when in actual fact it is CLEAR AS DAY

The only reason why the police are back-tracking is cos this moron himself is complaining that it was ME who breached the contract by virtue of reasons (a) to (e) as stated in the OP

 

[RandomMonkey]

Give me the address, I will personally go down there and listen to his side of story

I do not need his side of the story. His story is that he is a victim cos he has to live under all that construction noise and dust and therefore as the landlord I owe him a refund and he has the right to withhold payment of rent from me. Obviously he has a warped sense of right and wrong.

 

[ChewCheng]

This is a civil case. The problems come with the money that you had expected to make from the rental, you should learn to take ownership of your problem and it has nothing to do with the police unless anyone of you had committed a crime.

If you had a property agent who did the transaction for you, see if he can help you.

 

[ZorrorroZ]

Is this legal?

The police advised that we cannot chuck his belongings out as he is still the 'occupant' of the place (whether legal or not)

And according to them, the 'legality' of his occupancy is not a matter for the police to decide but for the courts, when in actual fact it is CLEAR AS DAY

The only reason why the police are back-tracking is cos this moron himself is complaining that it was ME who breached the contract by virtue of reasons (a) to (e) as stated in the OP

You do first and worry about police later ... when chuck it outside... I mean bring a trolley and load everything and bring outside the building and dump on pavement. Don't call police. If the fella call police, you just act blur and say you never do anything - say the fella is lying. The police will advise him to make magistrate report.

Two can play the game of lying - if the fella lie that you breached the contract, you should also play his game. No holds barred.

 

[cathylmg]

1. Did you check up whether he is here legally? I think cannot rent to illegal workers or those without permit to stay for after a certain amount of time if I'm not wrong. Go immigration dept and do a checkup on him. If he is here illegally he will be evacuated. Or you can use this info to make him move out.

2. Get a court order, wait for all have gone out and change the lock of the door. Throw all his things outside.

3. Hire someone disturb them daily!

 

[RonRon]

I rented 1 of my unit to a FT Ah Neh, initially I was asking $3500 per mth a few came includes PRC, angmo, indo Chinese and Malaysian. They all asked for a lower rental, then came this Ah neh I told the agent if Ah Neh that will be $3800. We sign the contract on the spot

 

[zeddy]

Is this legal?

The police advised that we cannot chuck his belongings out as he is still the 'occupant' of the place (whether legal or not)

And according to them, the 'legality' of his occupancy is not a matter for the police to decide but for the courts, when in actual fact it is CLEAR AS DAY

The only reason why the police are back-tracking is cos this moron himself is complaining that it was ME who breached the contract by virtue of reasons (a) to (e) as stated in the OP

Bro time for you to stand your ground.. No use being a good guy in this saga.. Sometimes its better to use the hard approach against FT scums like your tenant.. Gather a few of your good buddies and enter the house to collect his belongings and just chuck it outside.. Don't give a damn about the poodles.. They are useless in this kind of situation..This is your house and it rightfully belongs to you.. Alternatively, you can post his HP no here and let some Bros have a good time making prank calls to that cheapskate Hongkie bastard... I can do it without implicating you..

 

[Unrepented]

Since you pay monthly fees to the management of the condo, tell the security to bar him and family from entering the premises. Get the security to call you when they have done so. Then you go padlock the door or gate to your unit if you have one.

With their belongs inside, you will have the upper hand, assuming they have not sold your funitures and stuff:o

 

[HTOLAS]

As far as I can see, the police are legally correct and are not 'siding with FTs'. Rent dispute is a civil matter and the police can only be there to enforce a court order, if and when you get one. Your right to evict them from your house does not extend to a right to confine them against their will (unlawful confinement).

To show you are serious, I suggest you take your case to court to demand:

• that he be evicted with immediate effect
• that he be liable for all losses resulting from his failure to move out as is legally required of him
• that these costs include but are not limited to your legal costs, lost rental (resulting from his illegal occupation), other costs arising from having to deal with this matter, e.g. driving down, etc., lost earnings (from having to deal with this), etc.

One issue about taking someone to court is that he is unwilling to pay you. Has he made any payment at all? If so, note which bank his cheque comes from, because if you can get judgment against him later on, and he refuses to pay, take a garnishee on the account. It's really fun because his bank will be alerted and he will be mighty embarrassed.

Finally, while many of us want to project ourselves as flexible when renting out our property, it is very important to establish that you mean business right from the start. If your prospective tenant doesn't want to meet any of your requirements, be prepared to lose him. You can relax later but show who's boss at the start.

 

[keling is shit]

Random monkey,

you shd be a nice landlord . btw i think your main door and metal gate (if any) is damaged. can you get your contractor to remove it completely and leave the whole damn unit open 24/7.

this may scare that tenant off as i dont think he can sleep well in the unit without any doors.

 

[ZorrorroZ]

Tell them you found free lodging for them - and give them your MP's meet the people session address. Once they go there, chuck out their stuff and lock the door.

 

[Unrepented]

After FT ah neh stay, don't think you can ask for more from the next tenant.:(

I rented 1 of my unit to a FT Ah Neh, initially I was asking $3500 per mth a few came includes PRC, angmo, indo Chinese and Malaysian. They all asked for a lower rental, then came this Ah neh I told the agent if Ah Neh that will be $3800. We sign the contract on the spot

 

[Mdm Tang]

Hi R.M. ,
very simple problem. Easy to settle. Just
take a few nice pictures of this Fucktard and if
possible a short nice video. Then come
back here again .

 

[Unrepented]

1. Do renovation or any works, must apply and get permission from the estate management of the condo. So cannot suka suka get workmen and remove door.

2. I am curious why the owner don't make use of the condo security to bar the tenant from entering the premises

Random monkey,

you shd be a nice landlord . btw i think your main door and metal gate (if any) is damaged. can you get your contractor to remove it completely and leave the whole damn unit open 24/7.

this may scare that tenant off as i dont think he can sleep well in the unit without any doors.