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Philippines to say no if Thaksin asks for political asylum


By Philippine Daily Inquirer
Asia News Network
Published on November 10, 2008


Manila to "politely" turn down Thaksin's request for political refuge





Manila, Philippines--Filipinos marvelled at how Thaksin Shinawatra turned around Thailand's drooping economy when he spoke at a business gathering in Manila five years ago.



This time, the ousted prime minister may find the Philippines' door closed to him should he decide to seek refuge here.


Foreign Undersecretary Franklin Ebdalin said on Sunday the government would "politely" turn down any request for political refuge from the self-exiled Thai leader, citing Manila's "friendly" diplomatic relations with Bangkok.


"If an applicant for a political asylum insists, the first thing the friendly country customarily does is to send him back to his home country," Ebdalin said in Filipino in a phone interview from Hong Kong.


As of Sunday, Ebdalin said the Department of Foreign Affairs had not received "feelers" that Thaksin indeed wanted to seek haven in the Philippines, after reports reached Manila about his alleged plan to seek asylum here.


"Of course, he wouldn't want to be embarrassed, that's why I don't think he would make such a request," Ebdalin said. "He's no ordinary figure. He's a former Prime Minister of Thailand."


Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita also said on Sunday that Malaca๑ang has not received any official word on whether Thaksin, ousted by a military coup in September 2006, intended to fly to the Philippines.


The Thai media reported that Thaksin could be bound for Manila, especially with new Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat, his brother-in-law, arriving on Monday for a visit.


Somchai is visiting Manila to formally introduce himself to President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, according to Press Secretary Jesus Dureza.


Britain has slapped an entry ban on Thaksin and his wife by revoking their visas, provoking speculation in the Thai press over where Thaksin might set up home next.


The British move came after Thaksin was last month sentenced in absentia to two years in jail for conflict of interest after helping his wife buy state-owned land when he was prime minister.


There appeared to be a number of countries willing to take in the multi-millionaire, the Thai media said.


"We don't have to be concerned about Thaksin and his family... There are the Bahamas and several countries in Africa and around the world that will gladly welcome high-quality people like him," the Thai-language Matichon newspaper quoted Pracha Prosobdee, a member of the ruling pro-Thaksin People Power Party (PPP), as saying.


The Nation newspaper quoted an unnamed source from the PPP saying Thaksin was building an $8.5-million mansion in China, where he and his wife might take up residence.


Somchai himself remained tight-lipped about his relative's plans. He refused to say whether he planned to meet up with Thaksin on his trip Monday to the Philippines.


Thaksin has spent most of his time since the coup in Britain, where he bought and subsequently sold Manchester City football club. He returned to Thailand in February 2008, but fled again in August after his wife, Pojaman, was sentenced to three years in jail for tax evasion.


The British government had also revoked Thaksin's visa and that of his wife Pojaman.


Several countries such as Bolivia had reportedly expressed willingness to accommodate the disgraced Thai leader.


Somchai's visit to Manila is seen to have added significance because of Thailand's chairmanship of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) in 2008.


Asean ministers are set to hold a technical working group meeting in Manila on Tuesday to flesh out details of the $80-billion standby facility proposed for the region during the 7th Asia-Europe Meeting in Beijing last month.
The fund -- to be put up with the help of China, Japan, and South Korea -- was the region's response to protect itself from the impact of the global financial turmoil.


The outcome of the Manila meeting will be formally presented to Southeast Asian leaders during the ASEAN summit in Chiang Mai, Thailand next month.
Arroyo will host a state dinner for Somchai Monday night before flying to New York for a United Nations interfaith dialogue.


Somchai himself has been facing stiff political opposition—highlighted by hordes of street protesters—less than a month after becoming prime minister. It's a situation not alien Arroyo who will formally welcome him in Malaca๑ang on Monday.
 

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Thaksin's extradition possible if govt is serious to do so


By The Nation
Published on November 10, 2008


Former AEC official says bounty could be offered for fugitive ex-PM





Ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra could be brought back to face justice in Thailand if the government is serious about doing so, said legal experts.
Sak Kosaengruang, the former spokesman for the Asset Examination Committee, said authorities could ask Thai envoys posted overseas to help find Thaksin or could offer a bounty for the convicted expremier.


Over the weekend, it was confirmed that the UK had already revoked visas for Thaksin and his wife Khunying Pojaman to reenter the UK where the couple earlier lived in exile.


The whereabouts of Thaksin is not known, but Tej Bunnag, a former foreign minฌister, said yesterday that he believed Thaksin was currently in China.
It was also speculated that Thaksin would fly to the Philippines to meet Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat, his brotherinlaw, today or tomorrow.
Somchai yesterday denied that his official twoday visit to the Philippines would have anything to do with the expremier.


At present, Thailand has extradition treaties with 14 countries - the US, UK, Canada, China, Belgium, Philippines, Indonesia, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia, South Korea, Bangladesh, Fiji, and Australia.


Somchai said his trip to the Philippines was planned sometime ago as he need to introduce himself to his Asean counterpart.


The premier, however, refused comments if his government would revoke the red "diplomatic" passport granted to Thaksin.


Kasit Pirom of the opposition Democrat party said the "diplomatic" passport should have been cancelled because Thaksin was earlier convicted to a 2 year jailterm.


If Thaksin's ordinary passport is also terminated, the expremier would be forced to return to Thailand, said the former envoy.


Thaworn Senniem, also of the Democrat Party, said Thaksin could be brough back to Thailand if public prosecutors are serious about doing so.


A former prosecutor, Thaworn said if authorities could ascertain the whereabouts of Thaksin, then they could start the extradition process with any country regardless of whether there are any bilateral treaties.
"If there is no bilateral treaty, we could deal with the counterpart nation on a reciprocal basis," he said.


However, Sirisak Tiyapan, directorgeneral of the Foreign Affairs Department, said the extradition process would start when Thaksin's residence is confirmed.


China is believed to be the next country Thaksin may seek to live in exile as it is not posฌsible to continue his exile in the UK.


Sirisak said it would be difficult to seek extradition if Thaksin stayed in a place not having a treaty with Thailand.


The antigovernment People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) leader Chamlong Srimuang said he was surprised by the UK government's cancellation of visas for Thaksin and Pojaman.


The PAD will continue to oppose constitutional amendment bids designed to help Thaksin, he added.
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Seizure of billions of Thaksin's assets continues


By Budsarakham Sinlapalavan
The Nation
Published on November 10, 2008


A case seeking the seizure of Bt76 billion of ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra's assets for alleged corruption will continue even if the defendant is now out of the country, former members of the Assets Examination Committee said.




The Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Position Holders has sentenced Thaksin to a two-year jail term in connection with a land case. But seven other cases against the ousted PM are still in different stages of process with the court and other agencies.


Thaksin was absent in the first hearing of two of the seven cases. His absence resulted in the cases being suspended since the law requires that the defendant must be present before the court during the first hearing.
Former AEC members Sak Korsaengruang and Amnuay Tantara agreed that the cases must be delayed.


Sak said Thaksin's absence in the first hearing would affect cases where he is the only defendant. The cases must be suspended until Thaksin is back, he said.


However, Thaksin's absence would not affect the alleged corruption case which could result in seizure of Thaksin's Bt76 billion assets, Sak said. Although Thaksin is the only defendant, the case is a civil case, not a criminal one, and the law does not require his presence during the first hearing.


Amnuay said Thaksin's absence would not affect cases where he has codefendants including the illegal launch of two and threedigit lotteries. Other defendants included former Cabinet members and the board of the Government Lottery Office, so the court can proceed with the case by leaving only Thaksin's suspended.


However, other former AEC members agreed that the court could proceed with the cases although Thaksin was not in the country. Procedures of the law are stated clearly, they said.


Udom Fuangfung said the National AntiCorruption Commission could continue investigating the source of the money Thaksin had used to buy the Manchester City Football Club and the alleged corruption in the purchase of CTX9000 bomb scanners.


Meanwhile, the attorneygeneral can consider whether to submit the SC Asset share concealment to the court.


Former AEC member Banjerd Singkaneti said Thaksin had no right to say that the Thai justice system was unfair in proceeding with the case while he was away. The court must follow procedures according to the law, he said.


"Trialling of the cases when a defendant does not come to court, the court has proceedings freeing from the absence's impact. Meanwhile, the court opens the chance for the defendant to clarify himself. The court has given the chance to Thaksin to defend himself but he chose not to defend," Banjerd said.
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Compared with mongrel Thug-Sin Ferdinand Marcos can be considered as lucky because he had place in Honolulu to hide for the rest of his live, until he is dead. Thug-sin is now a running mongrel with no place to hide.

I want famiLEE LEEgime to take note that their future prospect would be either similar or worst, when the Singaporean Grand Tribunal of Liquidation put out global man hunt for them, to hold them accountable to LEEgalized corruption as well as iLEEgal corruptions. Take Thug-Sin as a reference.

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BANGKOK: Authorities in Thailand will press for the extradition of Thaksin Shinawatra no matter where he goes to live, officials said Monday after Britain revoked the ousted prime minister's visa.

Thaksin, toppled in a military coup in 2006, was last month sentenced in absentia to two years in jail for conflict of interest after helping his wife Pojaman buy state-owned land when he was premier.

The multi-millionaire's whereabouts are currently a mystery.

Local media reported that he is in China while others said he is set to fly to the Philippines, which Thai Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat - Thaksin's brother-in-law - was scheduled to visit Monday.

"No matter China or the Philippines, we have an extradition treaty with both countries," Sirisak Tiypan, director general for international affairs of the Office of the Attorney General, told AFP.

Thaksin has until the end of next week to appeal against his conviction but prosecutors are working on extradition documents, Sirisak said.

The reasons for the British government's decision to revoke the couple's visas, which emerged on Saturday, remain unclear.

Sirisak said prosecutors first planned to send the request to Britain, but as London had cancelled the visas of Thaksin and his wife they would wait to find out exactly where they are now.

"We planned to send it to Britain but (the plan) does not work now, he is not there," he added.

Sirisak said that even if Thaksin decides to live in a country with which Thailand has no extradition treaty, authorities could ask for him to be handed over on a reciprocal basis.

The Bahamas, Bermuda and several countries in Africa which are not believed to have extradition agreements with Thailand have reportedly offered to take in Thaksin and his wife.

The Philippines foreign department said earlier Monday that it has not received any asylum request from Thaksin and that it was unlikely to approve any such application.

Thaksin has spent most of his time since the September 2006 coup in self-imposed exile in Britain, where he bought and subsequently sold Manchester City football club.

He returned to Thailand in February this year, but swiftly fled again in August after Pojaman was sentenced to three years in jail for tax evasion.

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They push me into the corner : ex-PM Thaksin



Convicted ex-Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra whose entry visa to England was revoked last week will from now on fight back against his political enemies because they pushed him into the corner.




Thaksin told Reuters news agency that he in Beijing, China and is leaving Beijing for an undisclosed location.
He said he will fight back against his political enemies who pushed him into the corner.
This is the first time he talked to the media after England cancelled his visa and his wife's.
"I will keep traveling. I'm leaving Beijing at the moment," Thaksin told Reuters by telephone from the Chinese capital.
He refused to say where he was going next but denied the destination was Manila, as rumored.
"I dropped the asylum bid because I don't think it is necessary. I don't like the term asylum. I want freedom because I am a champion of democracy. I don't like anything that restricts freedom," Thaksin said.
Thaksin who is convicted and sentenced to two years in jail for abusing of power and his wife for tax evasion.
Thaksin told Reuters, "I will phone in and talk to the people who love and have faith in me. I will make a longer speech and start naming names because they have pushed me into a corner," he said.
Earlier this month, Thaksin called into a rally in Bangkok and urged his supporters to bring him home, a move that angered his opponents.
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BREAKING NEWS >> Monday November 10, 2008 16:27

Thaksin to leave China, says he has found asylum

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra told Reuters on Monday after having his UK visa revoked that he will leave Beijing soon, for an undisclosed location.

However, he said the new destination is not Manila, as the Thai media speculated.

The ousted premier also vowed to return and fight his political enemies in Thailand.

According to Mr Thaksin, he decided to withdraw the asylum bid since he believed it would be unnecessary, claiming that he does not want his freedom to be restricted.

Mr Thaksin said he planned to make longer phone-in speeches to his supporters again and he would expose the names of his political adversaries as they have driven him into a corner.
 

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BREAKING NEWS >> Monday November 10, 2008 23:07

Britain respects Thai democracy: British ambassador

(BangkokPost.com) - British authorities respected Thailand's democracy when considering withdrawing former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra's visa, British Ambassador to Thailand Quinton Quayle affirmed on Monday evening.

After meeting Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Sompong Amornvivat for about an hour at the Foreign Ministry, the British ambassador said Britain strictly abided by the democratic system of Thailand to maintain the good relations between both countries.

Britain has always used this practice when considering who can enter or leave the country, Mr Quayle added.

However, the British ambassador said he has no authority to explain the revocation of Mr Thaksin’s visa. He also declined commenting on whether the ousted premier can apply for another UK visa in the future.
 

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south america's countries and those carribbean's countries may take him.
maybe some africa's countries.
with all his wealth,surely some countries will take him esp those without any diplomatic relationships with Thailand.
 

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Bermuda not offer sanctuary to Thaksin



Bermuda's Premier Ewart Brown has stamped on bizarre, untrue claims in Asian media that he has offered refuge to ex-Thai PM Thaksin Shinawatra who was convicted on corruption charges.





Newspapers in Thailand have been speculating where Thaksin may head after his British visa was revoked.
Some Thai press reports claim Bermuda is one of the countries to have offered sanctuary to the former owner of Manchester City football club.

However Bermuda's Prime Minister Dr. Brown told The Royal Gazette newspaper yesterday that the reports were totally fabricated.
"I know nothing about it," he said. "It's absolutely not true."
He dismissed news reports which quoted him as saying, "Its prime minister (Brown) said he was content to help Thaksin because his family used to face injustice of the legal system before (sic)."
The Times newspaper in the UK said unconfirmed reports suggested Thaksin and his wife had been granted honorary citizenship by the Bahamas.
 

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I think HRH Thaksin can consider settling down in Langkawi. He can buy Woodlands Wellingtons FC. And he can fly to Singapore by Private Jet to watch the games
 
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