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The reasons why you would not return trays at hawker centres?

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Forum: Take steps to clean up food centres, so we can be proud of our hawker culture​

DEC 10, 2022

I couldn’t agree more with Mr Wee Gim Leong’s observations and concerns (Many food centres are dirty due to lack of cleaners, Dec 3).
Cleaners used to clean the tables at food centres after they cleared patrons’ dishes. Now that patrons return their own dishes, cleaners no longer clean the tables as often as before.
While some patrons try their best to clean the tables after their meal, most do not bother at all. And we cannot rely on patrons cleaning the tables after their meals in the long run.
Many patrons also have a habit of leaving used tissue paper on hawker centre tables, which gets blown by wind onto the floor. The sight of dirty tissue paper all over the floor has become common in our hawker centres.
In addition, birds flit around scavenging for food, and swoop over patrons’ food now and then.
The National Environment Agency needs to mandate cleaning contractors to regularly and systematically clean all tables at a food centre a certain number of times every day.
It is time for both the public and the authorities to up their game and ensure the cleanliness of our hawker centres.

Let’s start with mandatory regular table cleaning, increased regulatory checks and a campaign to dispose of used tissue paper appropriately.
Only when it becomes a way of life for all to maintain the cleanliness of hawker centres can we be truly proud of our hawker culture being part of Unesco’s intangible cultural heritage list.

Tan Chor Hoon
 

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The highest paid ministers in the world and yet cannot solve a simple problem like this -cotton definitely comes from sheep
 

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Forum: NEA, SFA working with cleaning contractors to improve service standards at food centres​

Dec 17, 2022

We thank Forum writers Wee Gim Leong and Tan Chor Hoon for their feedback (Many food centres are dirty due to lack of cleaners, Dec 3; and Take steps to clean up food centres, so we can be proud of our hawker culture, Dec 10).
The mandatory return of used crockery, cutlery and trays by patrons has brought some relief to cleaners in terms of collecting these items from tables at public dining spaces.
There has not been a reduction in the number of cleaners, as they are still needed to maintain the cleanliness and hygiene of dining places, sort crockery, and wipe and sanitise the tables.
To help cleaners better manage their workload, the cleaning workflow has been revised, with a team of cleaners focusing on wiping and sanitising tables, while another team sorts and clears the returned crockery and trays at return points.
With the implementation of the environmental sanitation regime at hawker centres, premises managers need to ensure that tables are cleaned and disinfected after each day’s operation. This is on top of wiping and sanitising by cleaners during the centres’ operations.
As part of licensing conditions, operators are required to provide and maintain tray return infrastructure in the premises’ dining area. The National Environment Agency (NEA) and Singapore Food Agency (SFA) will take enforcement action against licensees who fail to comply with requirements. This includes fines and suspensions.
Since July 2022, SFA has carried out targeted checks and taken enforcement actions against 29 premises.

Overall, there have been fewer reported instances of pests and bird nuisance since mandatory tray and crockery return was implemented.
There has also been less negative feedback from patrons about table cleanliness as more patrons are aware of and playing their part to clear their trays and crockery.
We have also received feedback from patrons that getting a clean table is now easier and faster.


Nonetheless, NEA and SFA appreciate that there is still room for improvement at some public dining spaces, especially during peak hours, and we are working with cleaning contractors to improve service standards.
Patrons can also help by continuing to clear used crockery, cutlery and trays, and any litter. These acts of self-service contribute to higher levels of public cleanliness and hygiene, and make it less laborious for the local ageing cleaning workforce.
Members of the public can contact the agencies if they observe any table-cleanliness issue at hawker centres, coffee shops and foodcourts.

Andrew Low
Group Director, Hawker Centres Group
National Environment Agency
How Siew Tang
Director
Operations Management Department
Joint Operations Division
Singapore Food Agency
 

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Fees are still being paid to the cleaning companies, adequate fees which I assume was tendered for. If there are no manpower covering this fee paid, then a refund needs to be provided to the stall holders.
 

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Govt obviously dun know how to planned a proper policy before implementing them...

After 50 years of running this small country, they still failed at such simple task...

Wait till u see zombie apocalypse comes here...
 

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With so many generals running this place, we are moving towards total militarisation of our lives-very soon have to clean our own trays, I mean utensils at the civilian
cookhouse (aka hawker centres) while ministers eat in fancy restaurants (officer's mess).
We already have civilians COS (NEA enforcement officers) to catch those who do not return trays and why not make it complete by giving these "offenders" who do not return trays "extra duties" by making them clean tables on weekends?( like those caught littering) .
Unfortunately George Orwell is not around to write Animal Farm 2
 

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Hawker food price keeps increasing. Now even have to carry own trays back. Very soon, need to wash our plates too!

The NEA will come up with an app where diners have to use the app to book a table and seats in advance.
Choping using tissue paper,umbrella will be deemed illegal by act and NEA enforcement officers can i$$ue fine$.
And got to pay for the table and seats. Pricing to be finalised.

And those Pioneer and Merdeka generations who do not have mobile phones or know how to use apps, they can squat by the roadside to eat, something which they used to do during the pioneering and Mederka years.
 

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Tray return points at Hong Lim hawker centre so full that diners leave dirty dishes on floor​

The photos show that the tray return points were so full that that diners just left their trays of dirty dishes on the nearby tables and seats as well as on the waste bins and the floor.


Ong Su Mann

Posted on 20 March 2023
Submitted by Stomper Tan


Photos of uncleared dirty dishes at Albert Food Centre went viral recently, but it is not the only hawker centre with the problem.
Stomper Tan shared photos of a similar mess at the Hong Lim Market & Food Centre.
"It was very unhygienic and messy on the tables and shelves," said the Stomper.
The photos show that the tray return points were so full that diners just left their trays of dirty dishes on the nearby tables and seats as well as on the waste bins and the floor.
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The Stomper said: "I heard from the cleaners that the contractor owed them salary and sometimes only put very few cleaners to work and it was not easy for so few cleaners to clear the dishes on level 1 and level 2."
The good news is that after the Stomper took the photos, the hawker centre was closed for two days of spring cleaning on March 13 and 14.
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Stomp has contacted the Jalan Besar Town Council, which operates the hawker centre, the National Environment Agency and the Federation of Merchants' Associations Singapore for more info.

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I prefer causal fast-food restaurants like Saizeriya, McDonald, Long John Silver & KFC. It is much better and cleaner to dine in there :thumbsup:
 

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Quote: "...78.4 per cent of respondents claiming that they cleared their tables because it was the socially responsible thing to do, rather than because they were trying to avoid being fined."

Really? If Sinkies are so responsible, remove the fine then.

Most S’poreans return trays, because it’s socially responsible, not because of fines: Survey​

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Patrons returning their used crockery at the NTUC Foodfare outlet in AMK Hub in Jan 2022. PHOTO: ST FILE
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Gena Soh

Apr 4, 2023

SINGAPORE - Singaporeans are taking more personal responsibility for keeping food spaces clean, says a new survey, with 95 per cent of all respondents returning their trays and crockery every time they ate at a coffee shop or hawker centre in 2022.
This is a 46 per cent increase from the number in 2021, following a fine that was introduced at the beginning of 2022 for those who did not clear their trays.
While this behavioural change can be partly explained by the fine, the survey also found deeper shifts in attitudes toward personal responsibility underfoot, with 78.4 per cent of respondents claiming that they cleared their tables because it was the socially responsible thing to do, rather than because they were trying to avoid being fined.
Additionally, 84 per cent of respondents said they believed that the individual diner is primarily responsible for keeping tables clean, rather than cleaning staff or outlet operators, up from 58 per cent of respondents in 2021.
These were among results highlighted in the fifth annual Public Cleanliness Satisfaction Survey 2022 conducted by The Singapore Management University (SMU), which surveyed 2,020 Singapore residents on their perceptions of cleanliness in the nation from July to October 2022 amidst the Covid 19 pandemic.
Respondents were surveyed on how clean they perceived Singapore to be across public domains such as parks and green spaces, MRT or LRT stations, food outlets in malls or hawker centres, toilets, and post events like the National Day Parade.
The respondents were also surveyed on the reasons behind their personal evaluations, and who they thought should be held responsible for these evaluations, among other things.

Professor Paulin Tay Straughan, sociology professor at SMU and co-lead of the study, said the findings of this year’s study regarding food spaces were exciting from a sociological perspective, because they pointed towards norms of a greater personal responsibility for keeping coffee shops and hawker centres clean.
But when it came to personal responsibility for other public spaces, such as outdoor parks, shopping malls or MRT stations, the picture was less rosy. Some 77 per cent of Singaporeans thought it was the government’s responsibility to keep Singapore clean in 2022, an increase from 73 per cent in 2021, an indication that the personal responsibility they felt in keeping food outlets clean did not translate elsewhere.
Instead, respondents felt that more money should be spent on hiring more cleaners in order to keep public spaces clean.

For instance, when presented with a scenario of overflowing rubbish bins, 59 per cent of respondents thought cleaners were not doing their job effectively, and 81 per cent felt that more money should be spent on cleaning services. In 2021, 59 per cent thought cleaners were not doing their job effectively, and 60 per cent felt that more money should be spent on cleaning services.
Also, 90 per cent of respondents also thought that Singapore was clean only because of the efficiency of its cleaning services, suggesting that individual responsibility was not highly rated as a reason for cleanliness, as it may be in nations like Japan.

An attitude of thinking that cleaners are mainly responsible for keeping public spaces clean will pose an increasing problem as the Republic grapples with a shortage of cleaning staff and the cost of cleaning services goes up over time, said Prof Straughan.
In 2022, ST found that some local cleaning firms were so short of staff once the border with Malaysia reopened that they had to turn down new jobs or give up existing contracts.
Basic wages for cleaners in Singapore will also increase progressively over six years from 2023 under the Progressive Wage Model.
Prof Straughan said: “Now is the time for us to think about the shared responsibilities we have over public spaces and what we can do to keep costs down and alleviate our over-reliance on cleaners.”
She added: “It’ll certainly be hard for us to empty trash and so perhaps there are areas which we should save for the limited amount of help that we can get, but it is doable for us to wipe down table tops after using them.”
Acknowledging that personal responsibility for community spaces is a spectrum, Prof Straughan said the study showed there can now be a public conversation on how far people can help to keep clean places that they use.
While more people were comfortable clearing their own trays, the survey showed satisfaction with the cleanliness of food outlets fell from 85 per cent in 2021 to 83 per cent in 2022.
Prof Straughan said though people accepted they had personal responsibility, they also expected operators, as well as the government, to be responsibility for keeping facilities clean and conducive.
For instance, rubbish bins should still be cleared in a timely fashion, and there should be a number for citizens to call if they see that they are not, to have their concerns addressed. Even more radical frameworks of responsibility could be created, with citizens of an area given ownership over the cleanliness of their neighbourhoods, she suggested.
Ultimately, it is the partnership between the patrons, operators and the government that will keep Singapore clean and well taken care of, Prof Straughan said.
Almost all survey respondents agreed, with 99 per cent of respondents saying residents must work together with cleaners to keep the neighbourhood clean.
Besides the new insights on personal responsibility, the public cleanliness survey also indicated overall satisfaction with public cleanliness in Singapore, with 92 per cent of Singaporeans satisfied with the cleanliness of public spaces that they had recently visited, similar to results from survey last year.
However, some perennial problem areas may have become even less acceptable, with only 53 per cent of respondents indicating that they were satisfied with the cleanliness of public toilets in coffee shops in 2022, down from 61 per cent in 2021.

The satisfaction with cleanliness in public toilets in hawker centres also decreased from 68 per cent in 2021 to 63 per cent in 2022.
The study also found Singaporeans to be more disciplined about personal hygiene as well, with 69 per cent of respondents washing their hands when there is a need, for instance, after using the bathroom or before they ate.
This is compared with 56 per cent in 2021. The top reason cited for not washing hands was the use of alternatives, like hand sanitisers, which became popular during the pandemic.
 

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At least one written warning issued on first day of stricter enforcement to return trays​

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A diner returning used trays and crockery during lunch time at Maxwell Food Centre on June 1, 2023. ST PHOTO: GIN TAY
Chen Xinyi, BNB Diviyadhaarshini and Lynda Hong

June 1, 2023

SINGAPORE - At least one person received a written warning on Thursday, when the National Environment Agency (NEA) tightened enforcement measures against those who do not return their trays at hawker centres, foodcourts and coffee shops.
Speaking in Mandarin, the elderly diner, who was at Chinatown Complex Food Centre, said he seldom visits the food centre and had gone there after his doctor’s appointment.
Claiming to be unfamiliar with the location of the tray return shelves and that the signs to them were not visible to him, the 80-year-old man, who wished to be known only as Mr Huang, alleged that the previous diner had also left behind a tray and crockery at his table.
“Hence, I had the impression that there was no need to return the tray,” he told reporters who were accompanying plain-clothes NEA officers on their rounds at the food centre.
Earlier, at Kebun Baru Food Centre, three groups of diners were seen wandering around with their used trays looking for the tray return station.
While posters to encourage diners to return their trays were put up, there were no signs to direct them to the tray return shelves, which were located in a corner away from the dining area.
However, only one table was seen with uncleared trays.

A diner, who wished to be known only as Ms Tan, told The Straits Times that she began clearing and returning her trays after the regulations were first imposed in May 2021, as she did not want to be fined. Thus, the tightened regulations did not make a difference to her.
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Plain clothes enforcement officers observing the lunch crowd at Maxwell Food Centre on June 1, 2023. ST PHOTO: GIN TAY
The NEA had announced that from Thursday, NEA and Singapore Food Agency enforcement officers will record the particulars of diners who do not return their used trays, crockery and other litter, instead of first reminding them to do so before issuing a written warning for non-compliance.
First-time offenders will be issued a written warning, while second-time offenders face a $300 composition fine. Subsequent offenders may face court fines of up to $2,000 for the first conviction.


At the Koufu foodcourt at Toa Payoh HDB Hub, the crowd picked up in the late morning.
While most tables were occupied, at least four with leftover crockery and litter on them were conspicuously vacant.
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NEA and SFA enforcement officers will record the particulars of diners who do not return their used crockery or throw away their litter from June 1. ST PHOTO: GIN TAY
A cleaner who spoke to ST said some customers mistakenly assume they do not need to clear their tables because they see her clearing the plates and tray return shelves.
“Usually I do that quite fast, so I think some people who see me doing it think I’ll do it for them, and they just leave without cleaning up,” said the cleaner, who declined to be named.
Mr Suhaizat Aizat, 21, a cleaner at Telok Blangah Food Centre, said many diners clear and return their plates only after reminders from the cleaners to do so.
“We have to tell customers many times each day to return their plates,” he said. “Although most customers return their plates, sometimes the diners coming in will still complain to us that the tables are not clean.”
A cleaner at a coffee shop at Block 226D Ang Mo Kio Avenue 1, who did not want to be named, said diners do ask her to clear left-behind trays at tables.
The 62-year-old said: “The people who want to sit at the table come to me to ask me to clean it, but that is not their fault. I don’t expect them to clean other people’s mess.”
 

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At least one written warning issued on first day of stricter enforcement to return trays​

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A diner returning used trays and crockery during lunch time at Maxwell Food Centre on June 1, 2023. ST PHOTO: GIN TAY
Chen Xinyi, BNB Diviyadhaarshini and Lynda Hong

June 1, 2023

SINGAPORE - At least one person received a written warning on Thursday, when the National Environment Agency (NEA) tightened enforcement measures against those who do not return their trays at hawker centres, foodcourts and coffee shops.
Speaking in Mandarin, the elderly diner, who was at Chinatown Complex Food Centre, said he seldom visits the food centre and had gone there after his doctor’s appointment.
Claiming to be unfamiliar with the location of the tray return shelves and that the signs to them were not visible to him, the 80-year-old man, who wished to be known only as Mr Huang, alleged that the previous diner had also left behind a tray and crockery at his table.
“Hence, I had the impression that there was no need to return the tray,” he told reporters who were accompanying plain-clothes NEA officers on their rounds at the food centre.
Earlier, at Kebun Baru Food Centre, three groups of diners were seen wandering around with their used trays looking for the tray return station.
While posters to encourage diners to return their trays were put up, there were no signs to direct them to the tray return shelves, which were located in a corner away from the dining area.
However, only one table was seen with uncleared trays.

A diner, who wished to be known only as Ms Tan, told The Straits Times that she began clearing and returning her trays after the regulations were first imposed in May 2021, as she did not want to be fined. Thus, the tightened regulations did not make a difference to her.
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Plain clothes enforcement officers observing the lunch crowd at Maxwell Food Centre on June 1, 2023. ST PHOTO: GIN TAY
The NEA had announced that from Thursday, NEA and Singapore Food Agency enforcement officers will record the particulars of diners who do not return their used trays, crockery and other litter, instead of first reminding them to do so before issuing a written warning for non-compliance.
First-time offenders will be issued a written warning, while second-time offenders face a $300 composition fine. Subsequent offenders may face court fines of up to $2,000 for the first conviction.


At the Koufu foodcourt at Toa Payoh HDB Hub, the crowd picked up in the late morning.
While most tables were occupied, at least four with leftover crockery and litter on them were conspicuously vacant.
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NEA and SFA enforcement officers will record the particulars of diners who do not return their used crockery or throw away their litter from June 1. ST PHOTO: GIN TAY
A cleaner who spoke to ST said some customers mistakenly assume they do not need to clear their tables because they see her clearing the plates and tray return shelves.
“Usually I do that quite fast, so I think some people who see me doing it think I’ll do it for them, and they just leave without cleaning up,” said the cleaner, who declined to be named.
Mr Suhaizat Aizat, 21, a cleaner at Telok Blangah Food Centre, said many diners clear and return their plates only after reminders from the cleaners to do so.
“We have to tell customers many times each day to return their plates,” he said. “Although most customers return their plates, sometimes the diners coming in will still complain to us that the tables are not clean.”
A cleaner at a coffee shop at Block 226D Ang Mo Kio Avenue 1, who did not want to be named, said diners do ask her to clear left-behind trays at tables.
The 62-year-old said: “The people who want to sit at the table come to me to ask me to clean it, but that is not their fault. I don’t expect them to clean other people’s mess.”
article written to brainwash people into submitting to their rule and regulation. Fuck that, i will never return any tray in any place.
 

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knn last time at cuppage hawker centre limpeh just order 1 plate of charkwayteow put on the table, then went nearby buy drink, just turn around and saw the bangla clearing it away...knn at least use some common sense lah, full plate of uneaten food can also buang
U need to put a tissue paper pack on table or a note "coming back in 5 min".
 

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Forum: Spare a thought for the elderly on tray return rule​

June 6, 2023

I read with dismay that an 80-year-old man was one of the first people issued with a warning ticket for not returning his tray after a meal at a hawker centre (At least one written warning issued on first day of stricter enforcement to return trays, June 2).
By inference, when caught the next time, he will be fined.
The National Environment Agency (NEA) has said that “those able to bring the trays and food to the table on their own should likewise be able to return their trays and used crockery”.
What NEA failed to consider is that the elderly would usually sit nearest to the stall they patronise because of their difficulty in balancing a laden tray.
In fact, I have also often seen stallholders take food orders to elderly customers.
Instead of punishing seniors who may have difficulty making their way to a tray return station that could be several metres away, we should take their physical condition into consideration and help them.
Isn’t this the inclusive, kind society we want to encourage?

Margaret Chong
 
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