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Re: Singaporeans? Don't learn from them if you want to succeed in business

For goodness sake, Singaporeans - do not just listen and believe everything you read.

Also, things work differently overseas. In SingTel case, they should know that government do change in Australia, unlike Singapore. hahaha
 

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Re: Singaporeans? Don't learn from them if you want to succeed in business

Are we talking about born losers or born morons?

For goodness sake, Singaporeans - do not just listen and believe everything you read.

Also, things work differently overseas. In SingTel case, they should know that government do change in Australia, unlike Singapore. hahaha
 

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Re: Why do all Famous,Rich Aussies Get USA Citizenship and renounce Aussie?

I see, regurgitating tabloid news. Guess what, SingTel and Temasek Holdings also do the same and guess what happen ....:biggrin:
http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=13955

Why not go US as a low income earner and experience the socialist policies of America first-hand.:biggrin:

Now, Americans are starting to realise that the rest of the world, esp Asians, is not happy being sweatshop labourers for them.

Anyway, my Indonesian friend in Perth has been daring ATO to come after his unpaid tax money in Singapore, so far, they do not dare too, because the Singapore bank is protecting him.

yes i suppose its very upsetting for you, being taken advantage of. i understand how you feel when you see all the native australians leaving and enjoying better places like the US when you are stuck there like a slave sucked dry by the corrupt govt there

sounds alot like singapore, does australia

hee hee
 

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Re: Why do all Famous,Rich Aussies Get USA Citizenship and renounce Aussie?

yes i suppose its very upsetting for you, being taken advantage of. i understand how you feel when you see all the native australians leaving and enjoying better places like the US when you are stuck there like a slave sucked dry by the corrupt govt there

sounds alot like singapore, does australia

hee hee

On the old forum I told people Australia is Singapore part II

It made Josie Boy very angry.
 

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Re: Why do all Famous,Rich Aussies Get USA Citizenship and renounce Aussie?

USA Social Security & Medicare:
those two programs alone have created a $25 trillion unfunded liability. The people hoping for those benefits have to pray the taxpayers will continue to be chumps. That’s how all chain letters work. Sheldon Richman

Now, not only does the government sneak in taxation by printing money, it also does its best to conceal what it does with it.


Sheldon Richman is senior fellow at The Future of Freedom Foundation in Fairfax, Va., and editor of Ideas on Liberty magazine.
 

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Re: Why do all Famous,Rich Aussies Get USA Citizenship and renounce Aussie?

USA and Socialism:

Mr. Bush can make his outrageous statement because we Americans have been indoctrinated into believing that the president is supposed to control the economy. That’s free enterprise! I’m waiting for the Chamber of Commerce and National Association of Manufacturers to politely object, but I will not be holding my breath. We’re all socialists now.

Okay, not socialists in the sense of nationalizing all the means of production. That’s where Marx and his ilk blew it. Those dolts thought they had to run the entire economy. As a result, the governments they favored spread themselves too thin, and it was only a matter of time before they collapsed.

Savvier socialists understand that, as with so many things in life, less is more. To engineer a society, you don’t need to run everything — just hold a few key command posts. The top three posts are the money supply, people’s incomes, and education. Hence, we have the Federal Reserve System, the income tax, and the so-called public schools. There may be others worth seizing, but these get you a good distance toward running virtually every aspect of society.

Here’s the Fed’s legacy: what you could buy for a dollar in 1913, when the Fed was created, would cost about 18 dollars today (2002). By inflating the money supply, the government can manipulate the economy for political gain and secretly tax us in the process. In theory, of course, the Fed is independent. But in fact presidents have often been able to lean on the Fed chairman to get their way. An infusion of freshly created money can bring an economic boom in time for a reelection campaign. Unfortunately, busts follow booms. The economic business cycle is really a political business cycle. Presidents get the Fed chairman to cooperate by telling him that failure to do so might jeopardize his independence. Orwell lives.

Sheldon Richman is senior fellow at The Future of Freedom Foundation in Fairfax, Va., and editor of Ideas on Liberty magazine.
 

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Re: Singaporeans? Don't learn from them if you want to succeed in business

I think it is more of a bad case of inbreeding. Lee Kuan Yew is famous for social engineering, esp when it comes to getting rid of good people and replacing them with Yes-men.
 

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Re: Singaporeans? Don't learn from them if you want to succeed in business

Singaporeans have been making foolish mistakes in their investment in Australia.

Under PAP Singapore, they never learn how the real world works ...

#1

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/SingTel-may-be-twice-shy-FWSS9?OpenDocument
SingTel may be twice shy
SingTel chief executive Chua Sock Koong made a dreadful mistake by doing a cosy deal with the former minister, Helen Coonan, for $958 million of government funding just a few months before an election that everyone knew she and her party were going to lose. Sure enough, the new minister, Stephen Conroy, quickly found an excuse to cancel that deal and the Singaporeans were made to look foolish.

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Australian Financial Review 23 Dec 2008
Warren Buffet Badge for Investment Timing
Temasek Holdings, which in June 2007 invested $400m in ABC Learning at $7.30 per share.

When ABC announced a 42% fall in interim profit in Feb, Temasek backed up by buying a further 8m shares at $2.14.

The shares lasted traded at 54c before suspension in Aug.

Now, ABC shares only has wallpaper value.

Lets face it.. Sinkies cant take the painful truth..
 

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Re: Why do all Famous,Rich Aussies Get USA Citizenship and renounce Aussie?

USA and Socialism:

Mr. Bush can make his outrageous statement because we Americans have been indoctrinated into believing that the president is supposed to control the economy. That’s free enterprise! I’m waiting for the Chamber of Commerce and National Association of Manufacturers to politely object, but I will not be holding my breath. We’re all socialists now.

Okay, not socialists in the sense of nationalizing all the means of production. That’s where Marx and his ilk blew it. Those dolts thought they had to run the entire economy. As a result, the governments they favored spread themselves too thin, and it was only a matter of time before they collapsed.

Savvier socialists understand that, as with so many things in life, less is more. To engineer a society, you don’t need to run everything — just hold a few key command posts. The top three posts are the money supply, people’s incomes, and education. Hence, we have the Federal Reserve System, the income tax, and the so-called public schools. There may be others worth seizing, but these get you a good distance toward running virtually every aspect of society.

Here’s the Fed’s legacy: what you could buy for a dollar in 1913, when the Fed was created, would cost about 18 dollars today (2002). By inflating the money supply, the government can manipulate the economy for political gain and secretly tax us in the process. In theory, of course, the Fed is independent. But in fact presidents have often been able to lean on the Fed chairman to get their way. An infusion of freshly created money can bring an economic boom in time for a reelection campaign. Unfortunately, busts follow booms. The economic business cycle is really a political business cycle. Presidents get the Fed chairman to cooperate by telling him that failure to do so might jeopardize his independence. Orwell lives.

Sheldon Richman is senior fellow at The Future of Freedom Foundation in Fairfax, Va., and editor of Ideas on Liberty magazine.

and he can get away with it, see?

upsetting isnt it?

hee hee
 

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Breaking News: Axe168 Involved in Migration Fraud, Arrested in Melbourne!

http://www.theage.com.au/national/migration-fraud-rife-in-overseas-student-scam-20090104-79v0.html

Migration fraud 'rife' in overseas student scam

* January 5, 2009
* Page 1 of 2 | Single Page View

UNREGISTERED migration agents selling black-market paperwork to international students are "con men and con women" operating undetected in Melbourne, according to the Migration Institute of Australia.

The institute has reported 60 cases of rogue agents.
Nine Melbourne businesses were raided last month.
Several people are likely to be charged over the raids.

Chief executive Maurene Horder said the shadowy "agents" offered fake documents for thousands of dollars to naive young Chinese and Indian students.

"It is rife," Ms Horder said. "These people are, in effect, trying to sell visas. Some of what goes on is pretty sinister."

The institute reported 60 rogue agents — from Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane, detected from February 2007 — to Immigration Minister Chris Evans in May, she said. The institute controls registered agents; those unregistered or deregistered come under Immigration Department jurisdiction.

"The Howard government gave this a very low priority," Ms Horder said. "We are trying to get the new Government to act on it but so far we know of very little action."

A spokesman for Mr Evans said the 60 cases were being investigated.

Nine Melbourne businesses were raided and evidence was seized last month after a year-long probe by immigration officers and federal police into one of the largest alleged migration scams involving international students in Melbourne.

It will be alleged that students seeking permanent residence were charged up to $20,000 for fake education and work-experience certificates, and that a Chinese-owned business consultancy in Little Collins Street, Hong Yun International, was a front for an unregistered migration agency.

It will be alleged Hong Yun orchestrated the scam through a network of related businesses including a private training college for international students in Flinders Lane, a city Indian restaurant, graphic design studios and an education consultancy. Continued...
 

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More breaking news: shockshiok and Redbull313 upset over neddy's post

The Truth is that USA and Singapore are in deep shits.:rolleyes:
Whereas in Australia, we are holding on the the wealth stored underground.:biggrin:

BTW, Singaporean dollar SGD has just devalued against Aussie$ AUD. What a way to start the new year. More devaluation of the SGD expected, but there is govt fear of higher inflation.

PAP, time to use up the reserves.:eek:
 

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Re: More breaking news: shockshiok and Redbull313 upset over neddy's post

The Truth is that USA and Singapore are in deep shits.:rolleyes:
Whereas in Australia, we are holding on the the wealth stored underground.:biggrin:

BTW, Singaporean dollar SGD has just devalued against Aussie$ AUD. What a way to start the new year. More devaluation of the SGD expected, but there is govt fear of higher inflation.

PAP, time to use up the reserves.:eek:

Oh Neddy. I don't care much about the US$ as I'm no longer there but as for the S$, I have some remittances that I'm going to make over this year and if they devalue the S$ against the A$ (its already happening).... *Sniff*.. excuse me now... I'm going to take time off to go and cry... *Sniff* :(
 

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Oh Neddy. I don't care much about the US$ as I'm no longer there but as for the S$, I have some remittances that I'm going to make over this year and if they devalue the S$ against the A$ (its already happening).... *Sniff*.. excuse me now... I'm going to take time off to go and cry... *Sniff* :(

But you're Satan, the Lord of evil. Surely there should be something you could do? LOL!
 

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Re: More breaking news: shockshiok and Redbull313 upset over neddy's post

Oh Neddy. I don't care much about the US$ as I'm no longer there but as for the S$, I have some remittances that I'm going to make over this year and if they devalue the S$ against the A$ (its already happening).... *Sniff*.. excuse me now... I'm going to take time off to go and cry... *Sniff* :(

Dun worry, the OZ economy is not in good shape, and it has a fully floated AUD. Which means the currency will go up and down. You just have to watch the forex over time.

As for the SGD, it is currently supported by air and "a basket of currencies" Just hope the fellow in charge will not press the DEVALUE button too many times. :biggrin:

As for USD, the countries holding USD will suffer when it devalue. Ben Benanke is trying to stop deflation and bankruptcy, so the Americans will be going through a painful phase of stagflation. Unless the Us Reserve come up with another ingenious idea (i.e. another bubble - kekeke)
 
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Re: More breaking news: shockshiok and Redbull313 upset over neddy's post

Dun worry, the OZ economy is not in good shape, and it has a fully floated AUD. Which means the currency will go up and down. You just have to watch the forex over time.

As for the SGD, it is currently supported by air and "a basket of currencies" Just hope the fellow in charge will not press the DEVALUE button too many times. :biggrin:

As for USD, the countries holding USD will suffer when it devalue. Ben Benanke is trying to stop deflation and bankruptcy, so the Americans will be going through a painful phase of stagflation. Unless the Us Reserve come up with another ingenious idea (i.e. another bubble - kekeke)

what is your prediction for australia's economy in year 2009?
 

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Re: More breaking news: shockshiok and Redbull313 upset over neddy's post

Dun worry, the OZ economy is not in good shape, and it has a fully floated AUD. Which means the currency will go up and down. You just have to watch the forex over time.

As for the SGD, it is currently supported by air and "a basket of currencies" Just hope the fellow in charge will not press the DEVALUE button too many times. :biggrin:

As for USD, the countries holding USD will suffer when it devalue. Ben Benanke is trying to stop deflation and bankruptcy, so the Americans will be going through a painful phase of stagflation. Unless the Us Reserve come up with another ingenious idea (i.e. another bubble - kekeke)

The Oz currency may fluctuate but it is very true that the S$ would get devalued more likely than not because of the high inflation that is operating in Sinkeeland. Well, that will make imports more expensive and MNCs who wish to remit profits totheir parent countries might get affected. Its more of a double eged sword.
 

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So Sad, Neddy/QXD/Satan very Pissed off at Redbull&Shockiok Postings

What a bunch of sore losers:

he Truth is that USA and Singapore are in deep shits.
Whereas in Australia, we are holding on the the wealth stored underground.

BTW, Singaporean dollar SGD has just devalued against Aussie$ AUD. What a way to start the new year. More devaluation of the SGD expected, but there is govt fear of higher inflation.

PAP, time to use up the reserves.
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Re: Breaking News: Axe168 Involved in Migration Fraud, Arrested in Melbourne!

http://www.theage.com.au/national/migration-fraud-rife-in-overseas-student-scam-20090104-79v0.html

Migration fraud 'rife' in overseas student scam

* January 5, 2009
* Page 1 of 2 | Single Page View

UNREGISTERED migration agents selling black-market paperwork to international students are "con men and con women" operating undetected in Melbourne, according to the Migration Institute of Australia.

The institute has reported 60 cases of rogue agents.
Nine Melbourne businesses were raided last month.
Several people are likely to be charged over the raids.

Chief executive Maurene Horder said the shadowy "agents" offered fake documents for thousands of dollars to naive young Chinese and Indian students.

"It is rife," Ms Horder said. "These people are, in effect, trying to sell visas. Some of what goes on is pretty sinister."

The institute reported 60 rogue agents — from Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane, detected from February 2007 — to Immigration Minister Chris Evans in May, she said. The institute controls registered agents; those unregistered or deregistered come under Immigration Department jurisdiction.

"The Howard government gave this a very low priority," Ms Horder said. "We are trying to get the new Government to act on it but so far we know of very little action."

A spokesman for Mr Evans said the 60 cases were being investigated.

Nine Melbourne businesses were raided and evidence was seized last month after a year-long probe by immigration officers and federal police into one of the largest alleged migration scams involving international students in Melbourne.

It will be alleged that students seeking permanent residence were charged up to $20,000 for fake education and work-experience certificates, and that a Chinese-owned business consultancy in Little Collins Street, Hong Yun International, was a front for an unregistered migration agency.

It will be alleged Hong Yun orchestrated the scam through a network of related businesses including a private training college for international students in Flinders Lane, a city Indian restaurant, graphic design studios and an education consultancy. Continued...

I thought he is a OKT Prostitute Seller?
 

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Neddy Crying, Mining crash signals “unmitigated disaster” for Australian economy

Neddy is inconsolable.

Mining crash signals “unmitigated disaster” for Australian economy

5 December 2008

News of a sharp contraction in China's imports last week has shattered the efforts of the Australian government and media to insist that the local economy will be spared the worst of the global meltdown.

Until now, despite mounting evidence to the contrary, the Labor government has continued to claim that the long-term expansion of China would keep fuelling a massive growth of Australian exports of iron ore, coal and natural gas.

Last week, however, China announced that its exports had fallen for the first time in seven years, down 2.2 percent in November. Even more significant, its imports fell a staggering 17.9 percent, with ominous implications for Australian capitalism, which is heavily dependent on raw material exports to China and other Asian markets.

The Chinese contraction "has marked an end to the resources boom," the Australian Financial Review's editorial declared on Friday. The newspaper warned that global commodity prices, which have already fallen 60 to 70 percent since the middle of the year, could tumble another 50 percent. As a result, it concluded, Australian policy-makers had to be prepared for "less palatable outcomes".

Business Spectator columnist Alan Kohler commented: "It is the final shoe to drop for global recession and spells the end of the super-cycle. There must now be serious doubt about whether the crash in commodity prices since July is a short-term correction. For Australia this is an unmitigated disaster. It virtually ensures that we will spend much of next year in recession."

Last week Rio Tinto announced it would slash its worldwide workforce by 14,000, cut capital spending by $US5 billion next year and sell-off assets to reduce its $41 billion debt burden by 25 percent, marking the first major contraction by a mining conglomerate since the economic turmoil began in 2007. Rio Tinto has been forced into a debilitating retreat by financial markets alarmed at its debt level. The company's share price has fallen 75 percent over the past year, including more than 40 percent in the past fortnight.

Rio Tinto's retrenchments will have a severe impact on thousands of workers and entire communities across northern and western Australia. The company has coal, alumina and bauxite operations in Queensland, iron ore operations in Western Australia, a Northern Territory bauxite mine, a majority share in Energy Resources of Australia's Ranger uranium mine, and coal mines in New South Wales. It has so far refused to say where jobs will be destroyed.

The entire Australian mining industry is being shaken by the global contraction. BHP-Billiton, the world's biggest mining company, last month shipped the least amount of iron ore from Australia in nine months, and said it would defer 5 percent of its shipments this year. Merrill Lynch predicted that the company might need to cut output by about a quarter, or 30 million tonnes, next year because of the slump in world steel output.

As well as refusing to take deliveries of orders, Chinese steel makers are seeking an 82 percent price cut for iron ore next year, to take effect from January 1, cutting short the 2008-09 contracts, which were due to run until April.

Only five months ago, in a June speech to a Canadian business summit, Reserve Bank of Australia governor Glenn Stevens gloated that China was still "running hot" and that iron ore and thermal coal prices would approximately double this year, while those for metallurgical coal would treble. He estimated the rise in real domestic income as about 13 percent of GDP, commenting, "We are talking real money here!"

How quickly the situation has reversed has been underscored by reports that huge losses at Sinosteel, China's dominant metals trading company, caused the temporary shutdown of Rio Tinto's joint venture Channar mine in Western Australia's Pilbara region and will jeopardise development of the nearby Midwest iron ore region. Only recently, Sinosteel president Huang Tianwen was feted in the Chinese business media for winning China's first international hostile takeover bid, when it paid $1.3 billion for Midwest Corporation. The value of that investment has since collapsed to less than $100 million.

Widening job losses

Corporate collapses and job losses in Australia have now spread from the financial sector to manufacturing, services, tourism, construction and mining. Every aspect of life has been affected, including child care, where the bankruptcy of ABC Learning has led to the closure of 55 centres, threatening the jobs of 500 staff, despite repeated multi-million dollar bailouts by the Rudd government.

It is clear that worse is yet to come, including in the finance sector. Writing in the Sydney Morning Herald last week, Jessica Irvine described the mood in downtown Sydney, the heart of the local finance industry:

"There's a joke doing the rounds of finance workers in the CBD, given added poignancy by this week's decision by upmarket shirt maker Herringbone to go into voluntary administration. What's the definition of optimism in the finance sector? Answer: ironing five shirts on a Sunday night.

"Global financial turmoil is cutting a swathe through Australia's army of finance workers, most of whom call Sydney home. The list of job casualties is beginning to look a veritable who's who of Sydney's city skyline... In the heart of the city, in the building formerly known as the millionaires' factory, Macquarie Bank is tipped to have axed upwards of 1,000 jobs."

According to the chief economist at JPMorgan, Stephen Walters, the job cuts in the sector so far this year are close to 19,000. Among Australia's big four retail banks the losses now stand at 1,000 for ANZ, 179 at NAB and 450 at Westpac. Other well-known casualties include Babcock and Brown (850 people), Insurance Australia Group (600), AMP (210), Axa (90), UBS (50), Deutsche Bank (30), Merrill Lynch (20) and Goldman Sachs (10).

In the manufacturing sector, about 38,000 jobs have been lost over the past 12 months, according to the Australian Manufacturing Workers Union, which predicts that the toll will soon reach 50,000. At least 50 building companies have laid off workers, while retail and service workers are expected to be hit hard after Christmas, with one major home wares chain, Harvey Norman, already foreshadowing the closure of up to 10 loss-making stores next year.

The Bureau of Statistics employment data for November, released this week, estimated that 15,600 jobs were eliminated during the month, sending the jobless rate up from 4.3 to 4.4 percent—the first official marker of rising unemployment. These understated figures, however, do not yet register many of the job losses, and provide no measure of the numbers of workers forced to take cuts in hours or wages.

A better gauge was a 23 percent fall in newspaper job ads in October and November, the steepest fall since ANZ Bank started compiling its data 30 years ago. The number of jobs advertised in major metropolitan papers is down more than 42 percent from a year earlier. The decline of the job classifieds is also contributing to a crisis in the newspaper industry. At Fairfax media, several hundred editorial jobs have been axed so far.

For the past week, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and his ministers have been frantically urging working people to keep the economy going by spending as much as possible—particularly those pensioners and low-income families who have recently received one-off handouts as part of the government's $10.4 billion "economic stimulus" package. Echoed by the mainstream media, the government is trying to promote the illusion that a Christmas splurge can somehow forestall the escalating crisis in the retail sector and looming recession.

Even if every cent were spent immediately—which is highly unlikely given that most ordinary people are heavily in debt and living on a constant financial edge—it would amount to a drop in the bucket compared to the scale of the downturn. Significantly none of those thrown out of work are receiving any extra financial assistance, in sharp contrast to the billions being given to the banks, car companies and business in lending guarantees, subsidies and tax concessions.

Consumer spending is falling sharply, with car sales dropping 9.5 percent in October as motor vehicle financiers fell victim to the financial crisis. Compared with a year earlier, car sales have fallen 22 percent. The number of new housing projects presented to councils for approval plunged 5.4 percent in October, or 26 percent lower than a year ago.

Responding to Rio Tinto's jobs announcement, Rudd conceded that further job destruction had become inevitable. "The global financial crisis is becoming a crisis for the real economy across the world, which in turn becomes a global employment crisis as well," he said.

Far from stimulus packages coming to the rescue, federal and state government coffers will soon be exhausted. NAB chief economist Alan Oster this week estimated that falling tax revenues and a further deterioration in economic conditions would cause a federal deficit of $25 billion next year, a dramatic turnaround from this year's budget forecast of a $25 billion surplus.

The budget black hole will soon produce demands in business circles for deep cuts to social spending, exacerbating the human cost of the worst economic breakdown since the 1930s.
 

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Neddy Very Red-Faced, dont know what to Say........

Boom in Australia goes bust as global slowdown hits

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ttp://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...section=justin

Economists warn of ugly year ahead

Economists are warning Australians they face an ugly year in 2009, with a recession inevitable as the global financial crisis continues.

The fallout from turmoil on the global financial markets is expected to worsen over the next 12 months and into 2010 and Chris Richardson from Access Economics says the new year will see more people affected by the financial crisis.

"So far we've just seen sharemarkets halve, we've seen some sectors like retailers and car dealers hard hit, most people are still doing OK. 2009 will change that," he said.

"This will be an ugly year. Growth will slow, income growth will slow a lot, unemployment will rise, profits will fall quite sharply."

Mr Richardson says it is inevitable Australia's economy will fall into recession.

"Recession is infectious and what's happening around the world is very bad," he said.

"The US will have its worst year since 1982. The same is true for the economies of Europe, Japan will shrink by more than the US or Europe will, China will have its worst year since Tiananmen Square.

"With the other rich nations in the world in recession, we pretty much can't avoid it."

Acting Prime Minister Julia Gillard has told ABC2's News Breakfast the Government is doing what it can to support the economy.

"Are these difficult and unpredictable times? Well, yes they are," she said.

"But what we've done, in view of our own forecasts and the intelligence around the world about the global financial crisis and all of the intelligence here about what it's going to mean for our own economy, is we've done everything, to date, with the aim of protecting jobs and investing in jobs."

Ms Gillard says the Government has moved to stem unemployment and the falling growth rate.

"The economic security statement, a stimulus package, all about keeping the economy moving, keeping people employed," she said.

"The car industry package the same, investment in local governments about local jobs and then, of course, we've got the big infrastructure investments, as well as the COAG money flowing through.
 
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