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The Chen Show Mao Affair?
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Let's wait to see how the scroowy scroobal wriggles out of this!
hahaha....bro tiger2, my little bird says that scroo is full of BS......nothing more, nothing less.
Quote: you cannot walk into MINDEF and volunteer to do NS: Unquote
He thinks the bros here are retarded or what?????
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See, this is what happens when someone writes for the sake of his ego and not "for the people".
The quota for medical students should not apply to CSM.
What applies was that he was PR not citizen when he applied - and medical school is heavily subsidised by the Gov.
What applies was that he was PR not citizen when he applied - and medical school is heavily subsidised by the Gov.
My sentiments exactly , this Scroolooseball is obviously one sided fookin pappy ball lickr. Otherwise he should also ask how come Janitor Pthumayam didn't do NS?
Amongst other qns ...
I am well aware of the policies. Again I will make it really simple.
1) The point that I am making is that he was not excluded or impacted by the quota. He made it into the vocational attachment which assess aptitude and he did not pass.
2) He either did NS or end up losing his PR and visiting his family on social visit passes and cannot seek employment here. 99% of PRs from Malaysia and East Asian countries "volunteer" NS with that kind of condition. Only applies to kids that came in young and obtained PR. The western expat kids either don't take PR or leave for college and jobs back in their home country.
3) You can't volunteer for BMT, OCS etc. You can't volunteer for NS . You can volunteer to serve the army, the police, the civil defence but there is not NS. He actually completed his NS and he was not classified as a volunteer. Why don't you ask him. He does possess his ROD papers. Volunteers do not possess such papers. Though who join as regulars have a pro-rata scheme in which NS component is built in.
When this first appeared, I made it a point to check before I came back with the responses. What you consider, feel or think is not the issue. The issue is he was within the quota but failed and he did not volunteer for NS. You should also not confuse the quota for females in medicine though the reasons that you cited are right. The actual quota is much higher and it only came in years later after the tax incentives proved ineffective. The only female quota that kicked in around the period occurred for the 1983 intake of Malaysian females admitted to NUS across all faculties to reduce competition for female Singaporeans graduates whose pool of unmarried ones were growing. Interestingly that quota was introduced quietly and then the old man announced his concerns during the National Day Speech rally of that year.
I thought Zenra is going to check. It is quite easy - it was the first cohort to be impacted - VB's batch where admission for medicine was based on vocational attachment. They had to disrupt from OCS or BMT, go for the attachment and if successful straight into Medical faculty. Unsuccessful ones returned to units to complete training.
ps. I am personal friend of the Lus via son Steven. Ever been to Dr Lu's house, the his art work is amazing and he donated most to the country. Do agree he was an exceptional individual.
The reason I have been writing all these years is that information is not something free available in Singapore.
1) The point that I am making is that he was not excluded or impacted by the quota. He made it into the vocational attachment which assess aptitude and he did not pass.
2) He either did NS or end up losing his PR and visiting his family on social visit passes and cannot seek employment here. 99% of PRs from Malaysia and East Asian countries "volunteer" NS with that kind of condition. Only applies to kids that came in young and obtained PR. The western expat kids either don't take PR or leave for college and jobs back in their home country.
3) You can't volunteer for BMT, OCS etc. You can't volunteer for NS . You can volunteer to serve the army, the police, the civil defence but there is not NS. He actually completed his NS and he was not classified as a volunteer. Why don't you ask him. He does possess his ROD papers. Volunteers do not possess such papers. Though who join as regulars have a pro-rata scheme in which NS component is built in.
When this first appeared, I made it a point to check before I came back with the responses. What you consider, feel or think is not the issue. The issue is he was within the quota but failed and he did not volunteer for NS. You should also not confuse the quota for females in medicine though the reasons that you cited are right. The actual quota is much higher and it only came in years later after the tax incentives proved ineffective. The only female quota that kicked in around the period occurred for the 1983 intake of Malaysian females admitted to NUS across all faculties to reduce competition for female Singaporeans graduates whose pool of unmarried ones were growing. Interestingly that quota was introduced quietly and then the old man announced his concerns during the National Day Speech rally of that year.
I thought Zenra is going to check. It is quite easy - it was the first cohort to be impacted - VB's batch where admission for medicine was based on vocational attachment. They had to disrupt from OCS or BMT, go for the attachment and if successful straight into Medical faculty. Unsuccessful ones returned to units to complete training.
ps. I am personal friend of the Lus via son Steven. Ever been to Dr Lu's house, the his art work is amazing and he donated most to the country. Do agree he was an exceptional individual.
The reason I have been writing all these years is that information is not something free available in Singapore.
I am well aware of the policies. Again I will make it really simple.
1) The point that I am making is that he was not excluded or impacted by the quota. He made it into the vocational attachment which assess aptitude and he did not pass.
2) He either did NS or end up losing his PR and visiting his family on social visit passes and cannot seek employment here. 99% of PRs from Malaysia and East Asian countries "volunteer" NS with that kind of condition. Only applies to kids that came in young and obtained PR. The western expat kids either don't take PR or leave for college and jobs back in their home country.
3) You can't volunteer for BMT, OCS etc. You can't volunteer for NS . You can volunteer to serve the army, the police, the civil defence but thats not NS. He actually completed his NS and he was not classified as a volunteer. I am sure any intelligent person can't this out. The claim that appeared was that he volunteered for NS. Why don't you ask him. He does possess his ROD papers. Volunteers do not possess such papers. Those who join as regulars without doing NS first have a pro-rata scheme in which NS component is built in which is usually is 5 years but draw a salary.
When this first appeared, I made it a point to check before I came back with the responses. What you consider, feel or think is not the issue. The issue is he was within the quota but failed and he did not volunteer for NS. You should also not confuse the quota for females in medicine though the reasons that you cited are right. The actual quota is much higher and it only came in years later after the tax incentives proved ineffective. The only female quota that kicked in around the period occurred for the 1983 intake of Malaysian females admitted to NUS across all faculties to reduce competition for female Singaporeans graduates whose pool of unmarried ones were growing. Interestingly that quota was introduced quietly and then the old man announced his concerns during the National Day Speech rally of that year.
I thought Zenra is going to check. It is quite easy - it was the first cohort to be impacted - VB's batch where admission for medicine was based on vocational attachment. They had to disrupt from OCS or BMT, go for the attachment and if successful straight into Medical faculty. Unsuccessful ones returned to units to complete training.
ps. I am personal friend of the Lus via son Steven. Ever been to Dr Lu's house, his art work is amazing and he donated most to the country. Do agree he was an exceptional individual.
The reason I have been writing all these years is that information is not something free available in Singapore. The fact that most people can't tell the difference is telling.
1) The point that I am making is that he was not excluded or impacted by the quota. He made it into the vocational attachment which assess aptitude and he did not pass.
2) He either did NS or end up losing his PR and visiting his family on social visit passes and cannot seek employment here. 99% of PRs from Malaysia and East Asian countries "volunteer" NS with that kind of condition. Only applies to kids that came in young and obtained PR. The western expat kids either don't take PR or leave for college and jobs back in their home country.
3) You can't volunteer for BMT, OCS etc. You can't volunteer for NS . You can volunteer to serve the army, the police, the civil defence but thats not NS. He actually completed his NS and he was not classified as a volunteer. I am sure any intelligent person can't this out. The claim that appeared was that he volunteered for NS. Why don't you ask him. He does possess his ROD papers. Volunteers do not possess such papers. Those who join as regulars without doing NS first have a pro-rata scheme in which NS component is built in which is usually is 5 years but draw a salary.
When this first appeared, I made it a point to check before I came back with the responses. What you consider, feel or think is not the issue. The issue is he was within the quota but failed and he did not volunteer for NS. You should also not confuse the quota for females in medicine though the reasons that you cited are right. The actual quota is much higher and it only came in years later after the tax incentives proved ineffective. The only female quota that kicked in around the period occurred for the 1983 intake of Malaysian females admitted to NUS across all faculties to reduce competition for female Singaporeans graduates whose pool of unmarried ones were growing. Interestingly that quota was introduced quietly and then the old man announced his concerns during the National Day Speech rally of that year.
I thought Zenra is going to check. It is quite easy - it was the first cohort to be impacted - VB's batch where admission for medicine was based on vocational attachment. They had to disrupt from OCS or BMT, go for the attachment and if successful straight into Medical faculty. Unsuccessful ones returned to units to complete training.
ps. I am personal friend of the Lus via son Steven. Ever been to Dr Lu's house, his art work is amazing and he donated most to the country. Do agree he was an exceptional individual.
The reason I have been writing all these years is that information is not something free available in Singapore. The fact that most people can't tell the difference is telling.
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Straits Times article on CSM from about 30 years ago....
http://newspapers.nl.sg/Digitised/Article/straitstimes19800308.2.7.aspx
http://newspapers.nl.sg/Digitised/Article/straitstimes19800308.2.7.aspx
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Vocational assessment was not a pass-fail affair. There were many who were rejected from Medicine as the earlier poster pointed out not based on the VAS. The interview was the key that selected the candidates
There are many many people who have volunteered for BMT. One of my colleagues gave up his PR and went to NUS on a student pass. When he tried to apply for a job on graduation, he was told that he was blacklisted. He was in limbo for a while until he volunteered for BMT and then after completing his NS, he had his employment pass granted.
He is not the only one. There are at least a couple more others
It is important that the facts are not distorted here otherwise we are no better than the New Paper!!!
There are many many people who have volunteered for BMT. One of my colleagues gave up his PR and went to NUS on a student pass. When he tried to apply for a job on graduation, he was told that he was blacklisted. He was in limbo for a while until he volunteered for BMT and then after completing his NS, he had his employment pass granted.
He is not the only one. There are at least a couple more others
It is important that the facts are not distorted here otherwise we are no better than the New Paper!!!
But the fact is he failed the attachment selection process for med students. My friend told me that the selection process very accurate one you know. The panel were all senior docs - all very sound characters, like angels from heaven - and with their vast experience, some can even judge a person just by a single statement from the candidate leh. So CSM must be not up to the mark. Heard also from another friend hor, that he probably very disrespectful, no no how to speak in the way they want to hear it. This type cannot - no respect for seniors... hahaha
this article dated 8-march-1980 says singapore citizen after NS. rhodes scholarship in 1986?
http://newspapers.nl.sg/Digitised/Article/straitstimes19800308.2.7.aspx
I have a feeling you are from PMO office as you can access to much information to put your point clearly, are you close to PM LHL?
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After much thought and consideration, I have decided to retire from active practice as a partner of the Davis Polk law firm with effect from July. It is quite clear to me that given my new responsibilities as MP I will not be able to continue practicing law the way I have in the last twenty years. Law is in my blood and no doubt it will be part of my life. Meanwhile, my retirement from the partnership will afford me more time for my family, to serve constituency and country, and to explore alternative work arrangements.
I wish to thank my partners for what I received over the years: their best efforts to aid my professional success and advancement, and the opportunity to use my best faculties to our common benefit. The same goes to our colleagues and clients. I have had many good years with the firm and leave with fond memories and many friendships.
On this new journey for Singapore, to everyone who has in some way extended to me encouragement, support and hope, you have my gratitude for reaffirmation. In many ways, this is as much our journey as it is my journey: let us forge our way forward for a better Singapore for all Singaporeans.
screwball, can you match him?
After much thought and consideration, I have decided to retire from active practice as a partner of the Davis Polk law firm with effect from July. It is quite clear to me that given my new responsibilities as MP I will not be able to continue practicing law the way I have in the last twenty years. Law is in my blood and no doubt it will be part of my life. Meanwhile, my retirement from the partnership will afford me more time for my family, to serve constituency and country, and to explore alternative work arrangements.
I wish to thank my partners for what I received over the years: their best efforts to aid my professional success and advancement, and the opportunity to use my best faculties to our common benefit. The same goes to our colleagues and clients. I have had many good years with the firm and leave with fond memories and many friendships.
On this new journey for Singapore, to everyone who has in some way extended to me encouragement, support and hope, you have my gratitude for reaffirmation. In many ways, this is as much our journey as it is my journey: let us forge our way forward for a better Singapore for all Singaporeans.
screwball, can you match him?
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