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Slot games, Casino Rewards & Privileges
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if you a slot player, my advice to you is to avoid the casinos until next year after CNY... the 2 casinos have adjusted payouts to statutory minimum....from sources*...up to you to believe...
*the holiday season is where the 2 casinos make the most money. if u have the statistical breakdown of their earnings month on month...
*the holiday season is where the 2 casinos make the most money. if u have the statistical breakdown of their earnings month on month...
Hehe.. that's why i love Aruze games, it really breaks the monotomy of watching reels spin , when suddenly some strange animation occurs, and hopefully, a big win will follow. From what i know, Qin emperor has 2 special animation, one is when he starts raising his hand, the other is to see a superimposed graphic of the Great Wall of China. Both means got free games or stacked wilds liao.
How bout Macau or genting ?
Played Holiday in Venice and the likes, quite fun but payout lousy. Played 80 cr got screen almost covered w Zeus' face (short of 1 or 2 box) only paid <5000 cr. Any tips to get most out of this WMS, short of playing max.???
"HIV" is fun. One machine is very popular in PS near to the 2c FFF. Always occupied. The other day one old man hit 200+ free games (many retriggers!!!). But agree with you that the payout is low. Pure entertainment and hoping for as many retrigger as possible. Suitable for one who loves to seat there whole day on small bet and drink coffee and puff away:p.
WMS is very noisy (noisier than the ARuze). The animation and sound are designed to keep you excited thinking that you have hit a "Big Win" when its mostly just "Loud thunder with little rain"[chinese proverb]. Even collecting the TITO is so loud which I dont understand. Hot hot respin is irritating too. Most of the respin come to nothing much except to add to the suspense.
Somehow the angmo loves WMS and in youtube there are some "Big Win" videos which to me cannot compare to the real big win in Aristocrat. Eg A full screen of 50 Dragons or 50 lions will beat this WMS flat. Of course, the flip side it is easier to hit full screen in WMS than the Aristocrat.
The probability of expected return may work out the same for all manufacturers. One is to make you win/loss slowly and the other is to make you win/loss quickly. Which one do you like?
Barred here? I'll go to Genting
Tuesday, Nov 20, 2012
Mention the word "curbs" along with casinos and it's guaranteed to raise brows of concern and worry among heartlanders.
As with my earlier Ground Zero column on gambling in July, they repeat the same refrain: "Don't treat us with kid gloves."
Don't get them wrong, because most of those I approached actually applaud the initiatives to curb gambling habits.
Indeed, 36 out of 42 heartlanders this correspondent spoke to this week admit to being gamblers at heart, and they say they can accept the more stringent social safeguards to keep some people out of the casinos.
The amended Casino Control Bill will require the two Integrated Resorts to do more in the area of promoting responsible gambling, alongside Government measures of imposing visit limits on the financially vulnerable.
Casinos are now required to draw up a responsible gambling programme based on best practices elsewhere. The Casino Regulatory Authority will need to approve it and the Authority will be further empowered to audit these measures to gauge their effectiveness, said Second Minister for Home Affairs S Iswaran on Friday.
Heartlanders like Mr Neo Aik Liang, 55, put it succinctly: The measures are good, as long as they don't affect him.
"I don't like the idea of visit limits. I don't think we should be nannied," he says.
You see, Mr Neo does not think he belongs to the "financially vulnerable" - and he does not want to reveal exactly what he earns. But he is a frequent gambler, having paid the annual entry levy to both casinos.
"I am a frequent visitor, so how, what will they do to me?" frets the manager, who spends an average of 20 days and up to $10,000 a month at both casinos. He is worried because some Members of Parliament have suggested that the annual levies may have encouraged gambling problems, because when spread out over the year, the amount is insignificant.
His friend, Tan Wei Kiat, 60, who is with him at the Clementi food centre, says snidely: "Luckily I didn't buy the annual levy."
But the retiree may fit the gambler profile that worries the authorities - he has lost about half of his savings from his regular fortnight visits to the casinos. Not just in Singapore, but also in Malaysia.
Yet he says: "That's nothing lah. It's not like I have lost my entire savings.
"And it's not like I've had to borrow money from legal or illegal moneylenders. If I am barred from entering the casinos here, I can always go to Genting Highlands or even on cruises. Who is going to stop me?"
And that is precisely one of the points highlighted by Mr Iswaran and Mr Chan Chun Sing, Acting Minister for Social and Family Development, in Parliament.
Both ministers pointed out that there is no foolproof regulatory regime.
Most of the others I spoke to seem somewhat annoyed by the attention paid to them
Each time gambling curbs are proposed or discussed, her husband will "start to nag and nag", says Madam Sim Meiting, 48, a florist.
She spends about 80 per cent of her monthly $1,600 salary on gambling but thinks nothing of it.
"What's wrong? We don't have any children and as long as I don't end up in debts, who can complain?" she adds defiantly.
She admits that her monthly visits to the casinos on her pay day is turning her marriage sour.
"But I've told my husband that if he is not happy, we can just file for a divorce."
Madam Sim's statement is chilling. And it's a sign that something can turn really wrong.
I have written so many reports on compulsive gamblers in the past two years that I can say for certain: Most of the frequent or hardcore gamblers always feel that there is a sliver of a chance for them to recoup their losses if they can head back to the casino just one more time.
As one visit follows another, the gamblers will surely rack up gambling debts or, worse, gamble their homes (and families) away.
We can easily recommend that families consider applying for casino exclusions or visit limits if there is a need. Or, to introduce their gambling family members to counselling and treatment services.
Not that it is so easy.
Last April, Mr Jayden Liu, then 24, shared how his mother had threatened to kill herself on the third day of Chinese New Year.
The reason? The accountant and his sister, then 16, had tried to stop their mother, a 51-year-old hawker, from gambling.
When Mr Liu's sister blurted out angrily that they had considered applying for a family exclusion order, their mother went ballistic. She then pulled a stool to the kitchen window and threatened to jump.
Mr Liu's message on Friday night to update us on the situation is worrying: "Mum has moved out of home. We give up."
So yes, this heartland aunty says: Keep the measures coming.
Hard as they may be.
I have seen too much to simply stand neutral on this issue.
Keep them out. And keep them out for good.
Tuesday, Nov 20, 2012
Mention the word "curbs" along with casinos and it's guaranteed to raise brows of concern and worry among heartlanders.
As with my earlier Ground Zero column on gambling in July, they repeat the same refrain: "Don't treat us with kid gloves."
Don't get them wrong, because most of those I approached actually applaud the initiatives to curb gambling habits.
Indeed, 36 out of 42 heartlanders this correspondent spoke to this week admit to being gamblers at heart, and they say they can accept the more stringent social safeguards to keep some people out of the casinos.
The amended Casino Control Bill will require the two Integrated Resorts to do more in the area of promoting responsible gambling, alongside Government measures of imposing visit limits on the financially vulnerable.
Casinos are now required to draw up a responsible gambling programme based on best practices elsewhere. The Casino Regulatory Authority will need to approve it and the Authority will be further empowered to audit these measures to gauge their effectiveness, said Second Minister for Home Affairs S Iswaran on Friday.
Heartlanders like Mr Neo Aik Liang, 55, put it succinctly: The measures are good, as long as they don't affect him.
"I don't like the idea of visit limits. I don't think we should be nannied," he says.
You see, Mr Neo does not think he belongs to the "financially vulnerable" - and he does not want to reveal exactly what he earns. But he is a frequent gambler, having paid the annual entry levy to both casinos.
"I am a frequent visitor, so how, what will they do to me?" frets the manager, who spends an average of 20 days and up to $10,000 a month at both casinos. He is worried because some Members of Parliament have suggested that the annual levies may have encouraged gambling problems, because when spread out over the year, the amount is insignificant.
His friend, Tan Wei Kiat, 60, who is with him at the Clementi food centre, says snidely: "Luckily I didn't buy the annual levy."
But the retiree may fit the gambler profile that worries the authorities - he has lost about half of his savings from his regular fortnight visits to the casinos. Not just in Singapore, but also in Malaysia.
Yet he says: "That's nothing lah. It's not like I have lost my entire savings.
"And it's not like I've had to borrow money from legal or illegal moneylenders. If I am barred from entering the casinos here, I can always go to Genting Highlands or even on cruises. Who is going to stop me?"
And that is precisely one of the points highlighted by Mr Iswaran and Mr Chan Chun Sing, Acting Minister for Social and Family Development, in Parliament.
Both ministers pointed out that there is no foolproof regulatory regime.
Most of the others I spoke to seem somewhat annoyed by the attention paid to them
Each time gambling curbs are proposed or discussed, her husband will "start to nag and nag", says Madam Sim Meiting, 48, a florist.
She spends about 80 per cent of her monthly $1,600 salary on gambling but thinks nothing of it.
"What's wrong? We don't have any children and as long as I don't end up in debts, who can complain?" she adds defiantly.
She admits that her monthly visits to the casinos on her pay day is turning her marriage sour.
"But I've told my husband that if he is not happy, we can just file for a divorce."
Madam Sim's statement is chilling. And it's a sign that something can turn really wrong.
I have written so many reports on compulsive gamblers in the past two years that I can say for certain: Most of the frequent or hardcore gamblers always feel that there is a sliver of a chance for them to recoup their losses if they can head back to the casino just one more time.
As one visit follows another, the gamblers will surely rack up gambling debts or, worse, gamble their homes (and families) away.
We can easily recommend that families consider applying for casino exclusions or visit limits if there is a need. Or, to introduce their gambling family members to counselling and treatment services.
Not that it is so easy.
Last April, Mr Jayden Liu, then 24, shared how his mother had threatened to kill herself on the third day of Chinese New Year.
The reason? The accountant and his sister, then 16, had tried to stop their mother, a 51-year-old hawker, from gambling.
When Mr Liu's sister blurted out angrily that they had considered applying for a family exclusion order, their mother went ballistic. She then pulled a stool to the kitchen window and threatened to jump.
Mr Liu's message on Friday night to update us on the situation is worrying: "Mum has moved out of home. We give up."
So yes, this heartland aunty says: Keep the measures coming.
Hard as they may be.
I have seen too much to simply stand neutral on this issue.
Keep them out. And keep them out for good.
Ahhaha I was going to visit rws this week cos i haven't been there for like 6 mths but what u guys posted here very discouraging leh lol
avoid the 2 local casinos for the time being. u will be grateful when you still see the money in your bank account.
better still spend it on your wive, girlfriend, kids...
Thanks bro Techno.
I be going this sat. Can i check how the point calculated there? (E.g: MBS card earns 1 pts ($2.50) for diamond card for every $50 play in slots. What abt venetian?
I have not book any room yet as you mentioned if play enough i might get a free room? I wonder how much do i need to earn to achieve that.
Another thing, may i check the machine there are penny slots? 5cents etc? Bcoz if 5cents, that will be less that 1cent SGD..?
Hopefully $5k enough to earn me one night stay at venetian suite :p
Bro I could have gamble till I blur liao,but any bros going down? Pls help to comfirm coz I dont want to give wrong info
Yes,double point is for table game only.Jackpot
double point still on wednesday only.
Bro if you intend to go there for just pure fun why not?As long you know when to stop ok liao
bro..
there are 2 cents...to 1 dollars machines..
you will be playing in HK dollars..(for 2 cents machine..)
put in HK500 (abt S$75)...gets alot more of credits to play
( 10 times credits when we put in S$50..haha - feel tham shiok..like very rich like that ! )
but of course..you wont get much pts from such peanuts bets unless max bets
have fun will do..!
goodluck
agreed..that why i do like Azure games..but at time "feels cheated - false alarm"
i think..among the games.. "shen long got better returns" compare to the rest
never like to play the "last emperor, or panda, queen,".. (free games always poor payout)
can try 'white tiger or manmoth"..at least better chance of making money
btw...last visit to KL Genting..
Make money on "Arctic Sun" by Azure..(frequent free games/multiplier)
new games there.. with the polar bear
(another same type one..with the cowboy "pete" ? - forget the name of the game- sorry)
Arctic Sun™
Game Details*
Availability: Africa, Asia, Australia, U.S.
Reel Configuration: 5-Reel Video
Number of Lines: 100
Available Denominations: US 1¢
Max Bet: 600 Credits
Bonus Feature: Mystery Reel awards 5 to 40 Free Games and 2nd Chance Respin during Free Games
Volatility:
Special Feature
not sure if Sing Genting has that game yet ?
(can anybody check and let me know ? thanks)
i think..among the games.. "shen long got better returns" compare to the rest
never like to play the "last emperor, or panda, queen,".. (free games always poor payout)
can try 'white tiger or manmoth"..at least better chance of making money
btw...last visit to KL Genting..
Make money on "Arctic Sun" by Azure..(frequent free games/multiplier)
new games there.. with the polar bear
(another same type one..with the cowboy "pete" ? - forget the name of the game- sorry)
Arctic Sun™
Game Details*
Availability: Africa, Asia, Australia, U.S.
Reel Configuration: 5-Reel Video
Number of Lines: 100
Available Denominations: US 1¢
Max Bet: 600 Credits
Bonus Feature: Mystery Reel awards 5 to 40 Free Games and 2nd Chance Respin during Free Games
Volatility:
Special Feature
not sure if Sing Genting has that game yet ?
(can anybody check and let me know ? thanks)
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bro...i ever play until with 3 more games to go before rescue spins set in..!
lagi "sim tiah !" (heart pain)
what we can do..is ..
next time..if less than 50 to go.. (double/triple bets credits..)
and if less than 10 to go... "max bets if you can afford to"
if free features appears before going down to zero..
..you will get at least double/triple or max bets free features..!
but be prepared..the most you get is "break even"..winnings from your earlier play.
i usually recover my bankroll from such tactics..
(just do not want others to benefit my donations till free games comes)
usually, i go in and try..after 250 games or less play by others
and play till zero if possible and bankroll permits..
my suggestion to all there (if you had a poor night at the slots)
go to the "sic bo" (Azure big/small dice) machines..
just try and bets..for fun..
look at the dice numbers that have not appear for more than 4 consecutive draws..
chances are... it will happen often ..(eg: no #1..didn't appear for 4 consecutive drawings)
a "very good chance" that no #1 will appear by the 5 draws..or 6th draws.
just bet one dice number will do... and no other numbers..(or diff bets)
you can pass your time there with min. losses..(no big bets ok?)
and chances you won't win much or lose alot
..and may even make some coffee money..
(i usually make coffee money by this method but when i get 'emotional and stubborn " by betting higher ,
double stakes and different permutations
(if it didn't appear after 6 draws.. etc etc.. ; i lose back my earnings... haha..)
go to the "sic bo" (Azure big/small dice) machines..
just try and bets..for fun..
look at the dice numbers that have not appear for more than 4 consecutive draws..
chances are... it will happen often ..(eg: no #1..didn't appear for 4 consecutive drawings)
a "very good chance" that no #1 will appear by the 5 draws..or 6th draws.
just bet one dice number will do... and no other numbers..(or diff bets)
you can pass your time there with min. losses..(no big bets ok?)
and chances you won't win much or lose alot
..and may even make some coffee money..
(i usually make coffee money by this method but when i get 'emotional and stubborn " by betting higher ,
double stakes and different permutations
(if it didn't appear after 6 draws.. etc etc.. ; i lose back my earnings... haha..)
Thanks bro!
Bcoz i only b going for ashort trip, so i only carry a bagpack. Hopefully they let me in. If not are there any counter to leave a bagpack?
Thanks alot!
and btw...
never ever play "the sic bo" machines alone..
that is..."if no body else is playing with you...then do not play at all..."
chances is that you will lose if you play alone against the computer machine..
(machine knows what you're bettings and may roll their dice in their favour )
only play when there are other players around
..as you are not playing against the machine but other players
as you all may be betting different numbers.
never ever play "the sic bo" machines alone..
that is..."if no body else is playing with you...then do not play at all..."
chances is that you will lose if you play alone against the computer machine..
(machine knows what you're bettings and may roll their dice in their favour )
only play when there are other players around
..as you are not playing against the machine but other players
as you all may be betting different numbers.
you can leave your bags at the hotel counter service..
last time.. we go to Sands Venetian, check out from one hotel and bring all our luggages to there..before flying home.
we took the WTS gourmet tour (5 days..at shenzen, song shan..and 1 night/a day stay at Macau)
cost about $500 - $600. each
worth the money..with the free food/tour but must attend their sales talk niah.
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