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Serious Sinkies Balls Shrinked - DBS UOB OCBC Sexposed by Hin Leong

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DBS, OCBC, UOB faced with over US$600m total exposure to Hin Leong
More than 20 banks have a combined exposure of at least US$3b to oil trader
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SINGAPORE's three local banks have a combined exposure of at least US$600 million to troubled oil trader Hin Leong Trading, sources familiar with the matter have told The Business Times.

Of the three, DBS Group Holdings has the highest exposure at around US$290 million; OCBC Bank is owed about US$220 million, and United Overseas Bank (UOB) had let Hin Leong draw down more than US$100 million as at early April, sources said.

Representatives from DBS, OCBC Bank and UOB declined to comment.

Hin Leong, one of Singapore's biggest shipping-fuel suppliers, was reported to be in talks with its lenders last week after the oil price crash blew a hole in its balance sheet.

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In total, more than 20 banks have a combined exposure of at least US$3 billion to Hin Leong, led by HSBC with a US$600 million exposure. ABN Amro has the second highest exposure at around US$300 million, sources said.

How serious a hit banks will have to take is not known yet, though the damage will vary from lender to lender.

Most of OCBC's exposure, for instance, is through letters of credit issued on behalf of Hin Leong to guarantee its ability to pay its suppliers, sources said. Letters of credit are a kind of contingent liability so banks are not required to make as large of a provision as for direct liabilities.

Industry watchers said Hin Leong will probably try to see how it can move forward without filing for bankruptcy protection, to preserve as much of the company's value as it can. But this will require consent from all its lenders, and fresh cash for working capital.

For now, the oil trader is still ascertaining how much cash, inventory and trade receivables it has. The firm is believed to have been profitable last year. Then this year, the oil price crashed.

It is difficult for Hin Leong to hedge oil price risks for its physical stock due to the fast turnover in its business, where it sources fuel from suppliers to ship directly to tugs and barges, one observer said.

Indeed, the company has survived past oil slumps because in those cases, it could still move its stock to manage cashflow. This time however, the Covid-19 outbreak created a demand vacuum.

A person in a separate commodities trading firm said: "Hin Leong does not hedge its physical stocks, hence it cannot weather the storm of low oil prices and poor demand. Inventory gets stuck... This event is an unprecedented demand destruction event and they are truly exposed."

With many firms under severe strain from Covid-19, analysts are bracing for more bankruptcies this year, especially among small and medium-sized firms faced with near-zero revenues.

Thilan Wickramasinghe, banking analyst at Maybank Kim Eng, said the impact will be felt by local banks: "We expect overall credit charges to be materially higher during this round compared to the oil and gas crisis (circa 2016-2017). At that time, the impact was isolated in one business segment of the economy. The current crisis impacts almost all segments."

Banking analyst Daniel Tabbush, who publishes on Smartkarma, added: "There is no way to know if the banks are provided for these loans. You have seen all the commentary from the International Monetary Fund and data from the US about this period being more like the Great Depression than the Great Financial Crisis. There will be a lot of bankruptcies at the corporate level, and at the consumer level, defaults."

But Eugene Tarzimanov, a Moody's senior credit officer, was more upbeat: "The immediate effect of a significant decrease in oil prices will be mostly manageable for the largest Singapore banks DBS, OCBC and UOB because they have extensively provisioned and cleaned up their exposures to the most vulnerable energy borrowers since the 2015-16 oil price drop. We expect that the residual risk in their energy books is small.

"Singapore banks have also large exposures to commodity traders, in line with the country's role as a regional financial hub. We understand that the vast majority of these exposure is to financially strong and diversified traders. Moreover, the facilities are collateralised."
 

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Why balls shrinked? Can’t take a few hundred millions hit? If you’re Staff and shareholders maybe Sianz one half. Or management waiting for heads to roll. Else no issue to rest of us. The banks not going to collapse which in any case I dun have much money with them
 

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As i said , if you can be owed $3 Billion USD or even Sgd, you are already considered untouchable. You be staying in a lap of luxury for life, even if you are being hail to a court.
 

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Singapore oil trader Hin Leong owes US$3.85b to banks

The coronavirus pandemic has led to an unprecedented slump in fuel demand and hammered oil prices, making it difficult for trading firms to make a profit. Hin Leong is one of the largest fuel traders in Asia and an operator of a major tanker fleet.

SINGAPORE: Singapore oil trader Hin Leong Trading (Pte) Ltd, which has begun talks with lenders to extend its credit facilities, owes $3.85 billion to 23 banks, two industry sources said on Thursday.

The coronavirus pandemic has led to an unprecedented slump in fuel demand and hammered oil prices, making it difficult for trading firms to make a profit. Hin Leong is one of the largest fuel traders in Asia and an operator of a major tanker fleet.

Some of the banks held a call with Hin Leong and its advisers on Tuesday to discuss ways to provide short-term trade finance after some banks failed to provide the firm with a letter of credit to buy at least one cargo of oil products.

"Hin Leong has asked for an extension (to repay creditors)", one of the sources with direct knowledge of the matter said.

Hin Leong did not respond to Reuters' email and phone calls seeking comment.

The firm's biggest lenders include HSBC Holdings, DBS, Overseas-Chinese Banking Corp, Bank of China, Societe Generale and Standard Chartered, said the second source, who was briefed on the discussions.

HSBC, DBS, OCBC and Standard Chartered declined to comment, while the other banks did not immediately respond to requests for comment. - Reuters

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As i said , if you can be owed $3 Billion USD or even Sgd, you are already considered untouchable. You be staying in a lap of luxury for life, even if you are being hail to a court.

Very worth it. Look at Kong Hee. Squat in jail for a while, get released, back in business again.
 

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Very worth it. Look at Kong Hee. Squat in jail for a while, get released, back in business again.
I doubt this HL boss needs to worry about jail, unless he did something criminal. It’s just business losses. Owe money no need to go prison.
 

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I doubt this HL boss needs to worry about jail, unless he did something criminal. It’s just business losses. Owe money no need to go prison.

Exactly ... alot of people forget his company name - Hin Leong Trading (Pte) Ltd
What headache ? Its a private limited company. It is the Bank that is balls shrink !
 

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the wiz of accounting marvel has many ways to deal with this situation ...it all depends on many things .

firstly ,why Hin Leong remained a private limited is quite telling ..had it been a public limited it would have been under Temasek long ago..in short ,the founder was not willing to relinquish centralised management control...had it been a public limited the banks can convert the loans to equity ..overnight the banks becomes shareholders and not lenders.

but being a private ltd ,I am quite certain Lim would have signed personal gurantee as a director but shareholders are usually spared ...so,why is a public limited is different...say,our ex auditor general is appointed as a SIA director and should it go bust ,surely its not fair for him to lose his pants too.

still ,Lim chap will still live very comfortably ..since there are tax havens and secret numbered accounts as in the Switzerland and law firms to show the art of hiding billions and top accounting firms to cook the book creatively ...as a matter of fact ,it was those international accounting firms that managed Najib 1MDB kleptocracy of RM40 billions
 

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how u know the banks never make him pledge his shareholding in the company to secure the credit facilities?
i think you didn't read my post fully...i did said Lim must have signed personal gurantee to banks...read again pal...personal gurantees includes all moveable and non moveable assets..including shares
 

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personal guarantee is personal guarantee.
pledge his shareholding in his company is another collateral
did you read my post?
i think we are bordering on legal point here...can you plesse explain how a personal gurantee and pledging of shares works differently...i am confused ,a personal guranteed is general ..meaning whatever that person posses either moveable or unmoveable is at risk..including his shares in the company..

or do you mean shares in the company also held by other shareholders pledged to the bank or what ?
 

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i think we are bordering on legal ppint here...can you plesse explain how a personal gurantee and pkedging of shares works differently...i am confused ,a personal guranteed is general ..meaning whatever that person posses either moveable or unmoveable is at risk..including his shares in the company..

or do you mean shares in the company also held by other shareholders pledged to the bank or what ?
blank share transfer forms, get it?
no need to court like personal guarantee to sue.
get it?
 

Nice-Gook

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blank share transfer forms, get it?
no need to court like personal guarantee to sue.
get it?
so ,what is the point you are driving at ?...Lim will lose his shares along with all his assets pledged or otherwise to the banks anyway regardless ..of course ,limited to the amount owed to to the bank

even than have you sighted any document of bank guranteed?it practically like signing your life away...so,what difficulty is therre for a bank to get summary judgement pronto ?...even if Lim contest it...you see,our courts are pretty fast in such litigation

honestly ,i dont see your point of view
 

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so ,what is the point you are driving at ?...Lim will lose his shares along with all his assets pledged or otherwise to the banks anyway regardless ..of course ,limited to the amount owed to to the bank

even than have you sighted any document of bank guranteed?it practically like signing your life away...so,what difficulty is therre for a bank to get summary judgement pronto ?...even if Lim contest it...you see,our courts are pretty fast in such litigation

honestly ,i dont see your point of view
whatever:biggrin:
 
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