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singapore toa tai ji! yakult's sons are americans....

leetahbar

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yep! u heard it!! is it true? they are american citizens and probably siam NS.

like that also can meh??
 

leetahbar

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AsiaOne
Tuesday, Sep 06, 2011
SINGAPORE - Dr Yaacob Ibrahim, the Minister for Information, Communication and the Arts, has refuted online speculation that his son will not serve National Service (NS).

Dr Yaacob's 16-year-old son carries dual citizenship in Singapore and the United States. He was issued US citizenship as his mother is an American citizen by birth.

The issue of his son's citizenship was made public when a leaked US diplomatic cable published by WikiLeaks identified the minister's two children as US citizens.

It then made its way into online forums where some netizens speculated that Dr Yaacob's son will not serve NS. Other netizens called for Dr Yaacob to clarify the matter.

Dr Yaacob's press secretary confirmed yesterday that the minister's son will serve NS just as his father did.
 

laksaboy

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American boys also have to 'register for NS'. It's illegal to not register.

It's called Selective Service.
 

leetahbar

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even minitoots' whitehorses ponies are quitting singapore. then what about others??

the million $ paid is so worthwhile to set such good example: QUIT SINGAPORE IF U CAN!

i must use this to motivate my kids especially junior who would be enlisted in NS.
 

depeche

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empty promises lah...when he retire and run road with kids then he shall pretend no such conversation...
 

leetahbar

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http://forums.vr-zone.com/chit-chat...e-mp-yaacob-ibrahims-wife-sons-americans.html

Wikileaks: Singapore MP Yaacob Ibrahim's Wife And Sons Are Americans bigsale Sep 3rd, 11, 09:54 AM #1


C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 04 SINGAPORE 000312

SIPDIS

STATE FOR INR/B

E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/03/2015
TAGS: PGOV PHUM PINR PREL PTER SN SOCI
SUBJECT: MUSLIM MPS IN SINGAPORE: PART 1 OF 2

REF: A. 04 SINGAPORE 3001
¶B. 03 SINGAPORE 926


¶11. (U) Yaacob Ibrahim has been Minister of Environment and
Water Resources since 2004, following two years as Minister
of Community Development and Sports. In 2002, he was
appointed Minister-in-Charge of Muslim Affairs. He was first
elected to parliament in 1997 and was quickly promoted to the
sub-cabinet position of Parliamentary Secretary at the
Ministry of Communications in 1998. In December 2004, he was
selected Vice Chairman of the People's Action Party's
policy-making Central Executive Committee.

¶12. (C) Since his college days, Yaacob has been very involved
in Singapore's Muslim organizations. He was a youth member
of the Muslim Missionary Society (Jamiyah) and is a long-time
volunteer at MENDAKI (the leading Malay/Muslim education
self-help group linked to the government). He was also
actively involved with the Islamic Religious Council of
Singapore (MUIS), serving on its council from 1992-1996. As
Minister-in-Charge of Muslim Affairs, he has encouraged
community organizations to specialize and avoid duplication
of services. He has also been given a role in Singapore's
outreach effort to the Middle East. In 2004, he led two
business delegations to the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, and
Egypt. While in Egypt, he met with Singaporeans studying at
Al-Azhar University, as part of the government's efforts to
ensure that its citizens studying in the Middle East keep
Islamic teachings in a Singapore context. Several contacts
have asserted that, since his hajj in February 2004, Yaacob
has become less of an integrationist. These contacts said he
has come to believe that there were two distinct spheres in
Singaporean society: public and private. While he envisioned
that Singaporeans of all races would continue to interact in
the public sphere in areas of common interest, they could
choose to limit their private interactions to people of the
same race and religion.

¶13. (U) Dr. Yaacob was born in Singapore on October 3, 1955,
the fourth of nine children of a minor civil servant. All of
his siblings have excelled as professionals. His eldest
brother was the first Malay chosen as a Presidential scholar
and a younger sister is political editor for the Straits
Times. He graduated from the University of Singapore with a
Civil Engineering degree in 1980. He obtained a scholarship
to do his Ph.D. at Stanford University. He graduated in 1989
and worked subsequently as a Post-Doctoral Fellow at Cornell
University. His wife is an American citizen who grew up in
Puerto Rico. Yaacob told emboff that he has a more
open-minded interpretation of the Koran and said his wife
converted to Islam to satisfy the conservative standards of
Singapore. They have two children, both American citizens,
and they travel to the U.S. frequently to visit his wife's
family.

Zainul Abidin Rasheed - Minister of State, MFA


Source: Cable Viewer
 

tyudm

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AsiaOne
Tuesday, Sep 06, 2011
SINGAPORE - Dr Yaacob Ibrahim, the Minister for Information, Communication and the Arts, has refuted online speculation that his son will not serve National Service (NS).

Dr Yaacob's 16-year-old son carries dual citizenship in Singapore and the United States. He was issued US citizenship as his mother is an American citizen by birth.

The issue of his son's citizenship was made public when a leaked US diplomatic cable published by WikiLeaks identified the minister's two children as US citizens.

It then made its way into online forums where some netizens speculated that Dr Yaacob's son will not serve NS. Other netizens called for Dr Yaacob to clarify the matter.

Dr Yaacob's press secretary confirmed yesterday that the minister's son will serve NS just as his father did.

16 years of age in Sept 2011, by this Sept he should be in Tekong or maybe deferred till 2016 when his father has enough and quit politics
 

leetahbar

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i think whitehorse ponies can defer indefinitely. when they are ready to serve, there are many serfs ah pengkias to serve such whitehorse ponies. oh yes! base on justice & equality.....and progress for our nation. craps!
 

Gunslinger

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Dual citizenship is generally not recognised in Singapore, but is possible up to the age of 22.[7] Such dual citizens may have acquired citizenship by birth in a foreign country, from a foreign citizen parent, or by naturalisation. Singaporean citizens who acquire citizenship of a foreign country after the age of 18 may lose Singaporean citizenship.[8] Foreigners who naturalise as Singaporean citizens are required to renounce all foreign citizenships.[9] Minors who are dual or multiple citizens by birth on foreign soil, by descent from foreign parents or by naturalisation are required to renounce all foreign citizenships by the age of 22 or may lose their Singaporean citizenship.[10]

The prohibition of dual citizenship is a contentious issue in Singapore. As the economy becomes more globalized and Singaporeans more mobile, many Singaporeans have acquired foreign citizenships and reluctantly renounced their Singaporean citizenship even though they may feel a strong emotional attachment to Singapore. Immigrants who have been resident in Singapore for long periods and qualify for Singaporean citizenship may be reluctant to become naturalized citizens as it would mean giving up the citizenship of their native countries. Those who are dual citizens at birth may find it unjust that they are denied their birthright to citizenship of other countries where they were born or that of their parents. Male dual citizens are also not allowed to renounce Singaporean citizenship after the age of 11 and before attaining majority at the age of 21, such that they have to serve National Service at the age of 18 for a country to whom allegiance they may almost immediately abjure.

The government's rationale for not allowing dual citizenship is that Singapore is a young and vulnerable nation which cannot afford to allow its citizens multiple allegiances which may be compromised in times of national crisis. Citizens without a second citizenship may feel aggrieved if dual citizens enjoy the benefits of citizenship during periods of wealth but leave the country in trying times.[11] Nevertheless, the government is open to the possibility of allowing dual citizenship if local and global circumstances demand so.[12]
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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AsiaOne
Tuesday, Sep 06, 2011
SINGAPORE - Dr Yaacob Ibrahim, the Minister for Information, Communication and the Arts, has refuted online speculation that his son will not serve National Service (NS).

Dr Yaacob's 16-year-old son carries dual citizenship in Singapore and the United States. He was issued US citizenship as his mother is an American citizen by birth.

The issue of his son's citizenship was made public when a leaked US diplomatic cable published by WikiLeaks identified the minister's two children as US citizens.

It then made its way into online forums where some netizens speculated that Dr Yaacob's son will not serve NS. Other netizens called for Dr Yaacob to clarify the matter.

Dr Yaacob's press secretary confirmed yesterday that the minister's son will serve NS just as his father did.



the wife can't be a white woman right ?


so no standard ah.................white woman marry Malay bum...............
 

songsongpunggol

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those people who keep bashing angmo countries keep calling them kaypoh and busybody and keep promoting the greatness of asian values.

ended up getting angmo countries citizenship for their children.

now who is being hypocritical here?
 
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kopiuncle

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ns IS a national punishment for all males :(

frankly it was a joy for me to serve ns
i enjoyed my time
it was one of the best in my life
ns made me a man - i was in armour
so i am adequately equipped for life
thank you ns...majulah singapura!!!
 
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