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Should women do National Service now? Societal cost will 'far outweigh' benefits, says Ng Eng Hen

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SINGAPORE: The “societal cost” of enlisting women into National Service (NS) now will “far outweigh” the benefits, Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen told Parliament on Monday (May 9).


“Women will be delayed in their entry into the workforce. The immediate effect will be an accentuated decline in the size of our local workforce, and a reduction of household incomes,” he said.

“Even if women are enlisted for non-military National Service roles to augment our healthcare and social services, it may make manpower shortages in other industries worse. Over the long term, it will impose a great cost not only on women themselves, but also on their families, children and spouses and society as a whole.


“Is that cost justified to send a signal or to reverse stereotypes? From the Government’s perspective, no. I think most Singaporeans would say no too, from a security perspective.”


Dr Ng was responding to a question by MP Carrie Tan (PAP-Nee Soon), who asked about the enlistment of women and its considerations beyond having an adequate NS population to meet defence needs.


The minister pointed to how some had suggested, during the debate on the White Paper on Singapore Women’s Development, that women be enlisted for reasons of gender equality, in potential roles like nurses or teachers.


“Having reached this position of strength, should we for the sake of gender equality, now introduce NS for women?” he asked, highlighting how the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF), despite reduced manpower, has remained operationally ready by using technology and optimising resources.

“I think there are distinct pitfalls, if conscription is implemented for any other reason than the critical need of military defence, whether it is for men or women.”


The “primary reason” for enlistment must remain to train a soldier who is able to defend Singapore, and to repel if not defeat an enemy who wants to invade the country, Dr Ng said.


Likewise, he said enlistment in the police and Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) must be based on the national need for homeland security and emergency services.


“It's very far off from the proposals to enlist women to serve in roles such as caregivers and healthcare workers, or to send a powerful signal of gender equality,” he added.


“These are inadequate justifications or reasons to mandate that someone must suspend individual liberties as a civilian, give up two years of his or her life, and if they do not, they go to jail, as our courts have sentenced NS defaulters.”

Dr Ng stressed that women should therefore not be enlisted to perform roles outside the SAF, police and SCDF even if this achieves “some social good”.


“There is currently no need for us to enlist women for National Service,” he said.


But if Singapore ever faces an “existential threat” by an aggressor, with a “sudden and great need” to boost its military, Dr Ng said he is certain that the Ministry of Defence and SAF would call on the Government of that day to enlist not only women, but also teenagers and older men to defend and save Singapore.


When Ukraine was invaded by Russia, it required women aged between 18 to 60 years to register for possible military conscription, Dr Ng said.


“Young men and elderly, who are well past their retirement age, also volunteered to fight on the front lines to protect their country,” he said, citing a report about a 79-year-old Ukrainian woman who was filmed at a training ground handling a Kalashnikov assault rifle.


“But we are not there today and hope never to be.”

More at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/women-national-service-ns-ng-eng-hen-2672736
 

tanwahtiu

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Bastard PAP, what about male Sinkies.... stalled their career ambition for 2 years after studied a trade course... the 18y.o jiuhu kia studied the same course join the trade job immediately and gain 2 years of trade skill ahead of them....

Fuck PAP...
 

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If women serve NS, then NS will be reduced to 12-mths.
SAF regulars will be busy humming the female recruits for sure.
 

realDonaldTrump

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Russian's war in Ukraine has proven that conscription creates an ecology which useless and nua regular soldiers get promoted, because they are there longer than the conscripts.
 

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If women doing NS will impose greater societal cost than benefits, then we can turn the argument around and say that abolishing NS for men will rise to societal benefits that will be far greater than any cost to society:

1) men will join the workforce earlier, means the workforce will become larger;

2) society’s disposable income will be larger, since the men will start earning income earlier instead of wasting two years for NS and to add insult to injury being paid less than peanuts to serve the nation;

3) a professionals only army will be better motivated

that is in addition to being true to the principle of equality. Guaranteed most Sinkies, men or women, will not volunteer to fight for the country in case of invasion.
 
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You know how much SPG at that age 18 to 21 are worth ? Priceless ! How much they can bring to our society as they service the two core essentials to our Banking and Properties markets when they lust for AMDK and CECA lust for these local pussies.

How can we enrol them into NS and benefit our worthless Strawberry Bengs............. which we're trying so hard to keep them off the market.

Hence “societal cost” is definitely too great ! :rolleyes:


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nirvarq

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On a side note our 'handicap' Bengs can call for free service for their needs.

 

Scrooball (clone)

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Malaysians must be laughing at us. Don’t need to do NS. They come to Sg to work and earn SGD, then go back to spend in Malaysia! Can buy bungalows in Malaysia, while Sg clowns live in tiny condos at best.
 

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Singapore women are too pampered.
They should be put into combat roles besides like men, then they know the shit that men went through.

Then then then then then....... hahaha you will start to see them chaogeng for downgrades.
 

laksaboy

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NS should be scaled down. Sinkieland does not have real enemies at its doorstep like Taiwan, South Korea or Israel.

The fact of the matter is, they're throwing this idea (females doing NS) out there now to 'test water'. They will require females to do NS in some capacity in future, since birth rates are plummeting and they need cheaper-than-Bangla slaves to do these menial chores:

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Cb ,these white clowns ownself say ownself, female for NS fxxx then ,that CB carrier is snother por lan par ask her daughter to go join, already for male us NS for male n jobs for foreigners, if these carry on CB more jobs for foreigners ,61% should open their bloody eyes, CB,these white clowns should all be replaced,
 

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You know how much SPG at that age 18 to 21 are worth ? Priceless ! How much they can bring to our society as they service the two core essentials to our Banking and Properties markets when they lust for AMDK and CECA lust for these local pussies.

How can we enrol them into NS and benefit our worthless Strawberry Bengs............. which we're trying so hard to keep them off the market.

Hence “societal cost” is definitely too great ! :rolleyes:


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