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SG Muslims can forget about MUIS Fatwa: A 'Wonderful' New Fatwa Permits Killing Israelis Wherever They May Be – In Palestine, Israel, Or Abroad

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This war is not about faith. Jews. Muslims and Christians used to live in peace in what is now Israel for centuries. This war is about injustice in which legitimate owned properties were seized without any compensation given. And even today, Israel refuse to recognise property titles in West Bank and Arab homes can be seized at any given moment for more Jewish settlement.
Most of the world can see that this war is about the rescuing of Israeli civilians kidnapped by terrorists, as well as retaliation against Hamas for murdering unarmed Israelis. The problem is that Israel may have carried the revenge too far, but then again, Hamas has refused to release the remaining hostages and beheaded some of them. Beasts deserve to be hunted down and eliminated.
 

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This is not imy first fatwa post. Islam is peaceful on paper, in reality islam is never peaceful. Islam started off as a warring religion to knock down the opponents.
Technically, islam is still at war and will be at war in the future. The war will only end when all the unbelivers surrendered or be killed.
Islam is supposed to be a religion of peace, but why is it viewed as a "violent religion"? It is the misguided believers, the extremists, the suicide murderers, the terrorists etc. that give this religion such a bad reputation. This latest fatwa just serves to ingrain this image of a "warring faith" to the entire world.
 

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As islam is always claimed by believers to be a PERFECT religion, it is reasonable to expect muslims to set very high standard for themselves and for non-believers to expect highly of muslims. Wrong?

As i had mentioned earlier on. Islam is perfect. But the believers may not be perfect.

Just to share with you. Sheng Siong had donated $200K to Gaza, Palestine. And you claimed Palestinian are terrorists cos is rule by Hamas. LOL!:whistling:

https://mothership.sg/2023/10/sheng-siong-boss-donates-gaza/
 

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Because arafat could not deliver the " Right to return". Palestinians with properties in current Israel want that back. so they voted hamas.
Both sides are getting more right wing and extreme so I doubt if any peace agreement can be achieved.

Let's NOT be distracted but stay FOCUS on the issue with FACTS & EVIDENCES at hand.

3000 Hamas made rockets were fired from Hamas controlled Gaza strip on 7th of this month. in a surprise & unwarned attack, 1,400 innocent men, women & children were slaughtered by est 2,500 Hamas militants whom swarmed across the border into Israel, killing even innocent kids whom were only there to watch a music festival. An est 150 civilians were kidnapped, held as hostages & some beheaded when Hamas demands were not met on time.

No matter how you attempt to justify the barbaric actions of Hamas, either thru Islam which is a religion of peace & does NOT tolerate the killing of innocents, OR thru unsubstantiated conspiracy theories as distraction, the Facts & Evidences of what Hamas had done are clear.

The 1400 Israeli & Humankind whom died DID NOT commit suicide on their own, nor did Netanyahu pulled the trigger.

It was the Hamas militants whom pulled the trigger, a choice of free will they made. There are photographic evidences galore of the horrific killings - Hamas militants suited up with SBO - ( skeletal battle order ) armed with grenades & weapons shooting civilians, even those hiding under vehicles & worse - tossing grenades into bunkers filled with kids....

In wars, it is understood that there will be 'collateral damage'. However this is NOT collateral damage but was DELIBERATE slaughter of innocent unarmed men, women & kids.

Hamas PUBLICALLY acknowledge it was responsible for this massacre, & even made bold insane statements to conquer the rest of the World.

Such atrocities will not go unanswered.

The death count in Gaza strip is rising. May Hamas surrender now & free the hostages. It is estimated thousands of its militants of had already died & names withheld by Hamas to make it look like it was innocent Palestinians whom died, bombed by Israeli war planes.

Hamas had caused immense sufferings to the Palestinians by its own barbaric actions that comes with consequences & even collateral damage in Gaza strip, for those whom had not heeded Israel's warnings to flee to the northern Sanctuary area.
 

Likemeat

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I enjoy seeing jihadists exterminated. No 72 virgins in paradise for dead jihadists. They'll join their pedophile fake 'prophet' muhammad in hell.

This world may be like hell to the palestinians. But they are the bravest lot. Stay put in Palestine and would not leave their homeland since 1948. Paradise is guaranteed for the Palestinians who were killed and massacred by IsraHell. You infidel may laugh, and mock Islam and the Prophet, pbuh. But when the angel of death come knocking your door and when you breathe your last breath, boy oh boy, you will taste whats in store for you.

Surely those who disbelieve, it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them, will not believe.

Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing and there is a covering over their eyes, and there is a great punishment for them. (Q2:6-7)
 

duluxe

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As i had mentioned earlier on. Islam is perfect. But the believers may not be perfect.

Just to share with you. Sheng Siong had donated $200K to Gaza, Palestine. And you claimed Palestinian are terrorists cos is rule by Hamas. LOL!:whistling:

https://mothership.sg/2023/10/sheng-siong-boss-donates-gaza/

Yes, islam is perfect on paper. If Dr. Mahmoud Al-Shajrawi is not a muslim scholar, the fatwa won't exists.

1. Please find the post that i said palestinian civilians are terrorists.
2. If the same happened to a non muslim country, no muslim towkay will donate money to help. Islam is peaceful on paper.
 

Likemeat

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Sheng Siong's donation to Gaza makes business sense. Budget-conscious Malays are also its target audience.

True. But you guys said donation to Palestinians is akin to donating to terrorists? Fyi Sheng Siong has been a regular donor to Palestine. But feeble minded @duluxe still in the dark.
 

Likemeat

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Yes, islam is perfect on paper. If Dr. Mahmoud Al-Shajrawi is not a muslim scholar, the fatwa won't exists.

1. Please find the post that i said palestinian civilians are terrorists.
2. If the same happened to a non muslim country, no muslim towkay will donate money to help. Islam is peaceful on paper.

Who govern Palestine?
 

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This world may be like hell to the palestinians. But they are the bravest lot. Stay put in Palestine and would not leave their homeland since 1948. Paradise is guaranteed for the Palestinians who were killed and massacred by IsraHell. You infidel may laugh, and mock Islam and the Prophet, pbuh. But when the angel of death come knocking your door and when you breathe your last breath, boy oh boy, you will taste whats in store for you.
We don't want to meet a 72-year-old virgin. That's for sure!
 

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If you dont repent, you will be in...you know where.
If you believe in the 72 virgins, then you are not a true Muslim, but an extremist who believes what suicide bombers believe. Moderate Muslims believe in peace. No religion teaches us to be evil; it's the terrorists who have hijacked your religion. Why do you support them? You should reject these radicals. Why side with terrorists?
 

duluxe

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If you believe in the 72 virgins, then you are not a true Muslim, but an extremist who believes what suicide bombers believe. Moderate Muslims believe in peace. No religion teaches us to be evil; it's the terrorists who have hijacked your religion. Why do you support them? You should reject these radicals. Why side with terrorists?

Terrorism is also known as Jihad. Islam is the only religion in human history with holy war doctrines in the holy texts.
 

duluxe

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So what you are saying is that Islam condones extremism and violence against non-Muslims. I see.

Islamists say the koran is perfect and uncorrupted, it is the fault for those muslims who misused the holy texts for terrorism, killing infidels and SEX with under age girls. They say the fault is not with the holy books. They are unable to name a murtad or non believer who misused the koran to do harms.
 

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Islamists say the koran is perfect and uncorrupted, it is the fault for those muslims who misused the holy texts for terrorism, killing infidels and SEX with under age girls. They say the fault is not with the holy books. They are unable to name a murtad or non believer who misused the koran to do harms.
The problem is that many "moderate" Muslims would still side with their brethren (after they turn to extremism) even when they advocate violence and murder of non-Muslims. Siding with terrorists seems more palatable than siding with non-believers. Look at the support for Hamas from some leaders of Muslim countries.
 

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This world may be like hell to the palestinians. But they are the bravest lot. Stay put in Palestine and would not leave their homeland since 1948.

Read the recent news. The palestinians are stuck where they are because Egypt and Jordan will not take them in. The two countries hinted at declaring war if lots of moslem palestinians enter their countries.


Paradise is guaranteed for the Palestinians who were killed and massacred by IsraHell.

Your corrupted quran actually promised paradise for dead jihadists killed by Israel??


You infidel may laugh, and mock Islam and the Prophet, pbuh. But when the angel of death come knocking your door and when you breathe your last breath, boy oh boy, you will taste whats in store for you.

Your fake arabic religion has constantly mocked and insulted other religions. So nothing wrong with insulting islam.

By the way, most moslems consider it an insult when we describe mahomet from moslems own scriptures - paedophile, slave trafficker, bandit, murderer, assassin leader , disobeyer of islamic laws
 

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If you believe in the 72 virgins, then you are not a true Muslim, but an extremist who believes what suicide bombers believe. Moderate Muslims believe in peace. No religion teaches us to be evil; it's the terrorists who have hijacked your religion. Why do you support them? You should reject these radicals. Why side with terrorists?

Where did i say i support terrorists? 72 virgins (weak hadith) or otherwise depend on interpretation. Not even mentioned in the Quran
 
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By the way, most moslems consider it an insult when we describe mahomet from moslems own scriptures - paedophile, slave trafficker, bandit, murderer, assassin leader , disobeyer of islamic laws

If you think its not an insult, why not say it infront of Mufti. Or go speaker corner and shout out loud. Instead of hiding behind the keyboard
 
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Let's all calm down.

It is only comprehensible for the outrage, anger & frustrations of Humans like Mr. John Tan, after watching carnage Worldwide done in the name of Islam & seemingly support of Muslims for terrorists, BUT it is NOT & NEVER true that all Muslims are terrorists or support terrorism & their religion is wrong.

Religion is a personal relationship between a Human & the Almighty. Fortunately, there are MANY devout & peaceful Muslims observing their faith & ARE EQUALLY SHOCKED by what Hamas are doing, & worse - bring DISREPUTE to a religion of peace, misusing it to gain support even when it runs counter what Islam is, but those whom are peaceful have little ability to change events.

May peaceful Muslims Worldwide be aware that there are NOT many that are like Mr. John Tan. There are many more whom respect the religion of others, more so here in Singapore where none is cornered, & freely observe their religion in peace & at their religious institutions. Such ability of us is due to the Rule of Law & democratic institutions where ALL are equal, regardless of race or religion, to achieve common goals & values that all Humans aspire towards for progress.

When the landmass of Palestine is STRIPPED of the MISUSE of Islam, which is a religion of peace, and allow the Rule of Law, even Sharia laws adopted from genuine Muslim scholars, as well as Democratic institutions of elections, check & balances to power, etc...Peace will be achievable. Such was what Humanity Worldwide had been encouraging Palestine to do, not with words alone, but support in every form - Billions of dollars from Qatar alone, as well as much more from others, and even military training to help them defend themselves.

Sadly, the current leadership in Gaza had misused not just religion, but also the funds & well wishes from Humankind. For goodness sake, even donated water pipes to supply water to all Palestinians were dug up & used as rocket parts......


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