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SG Muslims can forget about MUIS Fatwa: A 'Wonderful' New Fatwa Permits Killing Israelis Wherever They May Be – In Palestine, Israel, Or Abroad

Willamshakespear

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Islam is a religion of Peace. Islam does NOT tolerate the killings of innocents under ANY circumstances.

A fatwa can only only be issued by QUALIFIED Muftis after DEEP considerations of FACTS & REALITIES on hand & is a NON LEGAL BINDING opinion. Religion is a PERSONAL relationship between a Human & the Almighty, & need not by swayed by anyone's opinion except by the WORDS of the Almighty & NEVER to be taken out of context.

As Islam is a religion of Peace & does NOT tolerate the killings of innocents, how would anyone whom claimed to be religious legal officer or scholar, a FATWA be issued to kill innocent others? Are they gods on Earth whom decides upon the life & death of Humans?



Had not ALLAH made providences for Muslims to live in other peaceful lands ruled by established laws & with prosperity when their own leaders whom misused Islam for personal power & profit caused sufferings to all, and even changed the hearts of leaders in peaceful nations, whom were fearful of terrorists whom manipulated Islam & whom were killing innocents Worldwide, yet allow them in freely?.

What was the result? Many Muslims did attempt to live peacefully, but some performed HORRIFIC acts of civil disobediences & even slaughtering of innocents there, using Islam to JUSTIFY their heinous acts...

ALLAH is patient & merciful, but do not, DO NOT test HIS patience & mercy. The cries from innocents DO reach the highest heavens....

 

Willamshakespear

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May Hamas release the hostages & surrender to the authorities, to be judged upon by learned Earthy mortals, repent & pay for their crimes against innocents which Islam does not tolerate. This will help in ending the suffering now of both Palestinians & Israelis suffering in the landmass of Palestine....
 

syed putra

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May Hamas release the hostages & surrender to the authorities, to be judged upon by learned Earthy mortals, repent & pay for their crimes against innocents which Islam does not tolerate. This will help in ending the suffering now of both Palestinians & Israelis suffering in the landmass of Palestine....
This war is not about faith. Jews. Muslims and Christians used to live in peace in what is now Israel for centuries. This war is about injustice in which legitimate owned properties were seized without any compensation given. And even today, Israel refuse to recognise property titles in West Bank and Arab homes can be seized at any given moment for more Jewish settlement.
 

Willamshakespear

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This war is not about faith.

Dear Mr. Syed Putra.

STOP. Please stop.

Hamas needed support, regardless how & where it came from & RELIGION, specifically MISUSING Islam, was the way they believed that it would gain them support, & thus sadly, many devout & peaceful Muslims were FOOLED into such support that saw chaos & killings Worldwide, & worse - in the name of Islam- a religion of Peace that Prophet Muhammad had worked so hard, so hard to bring civilization & progress to the barbaric nomadic tribes in Arabia..

Innocent & concerned Humans had been working SINCE 1948, for a workable & realistic solution for both Palestinians & Israelis, regardless if they are minority zionist, many Jews, Christians or Arabs, but to NO avail as the religion card was used by other Arab nations for their own land expansions, & made worse in 1979 when Shia Ayatollahs in Persian Iran ruled, to gain more converts or to lessen the Sunni supremacy in its own gain for long lusted ancient Persian glory of world domination.

If you are a Malaysian, you would realized how life was like before 1979. Malaysia was a secular State & rising as one of the Tigers economy in Asia, with much tolerance, ease & prosperity.

After 1979, when Islam was misused by others to attempt to go back to the beginning in 7th century, it became a Shia controlled & manipulated nation, in the race to show who are the True Muslims, even if it needs to drive every Malaysian achievements to the ground, to go back to the stone ages of nomadic 7th century, absolutely disregarding the changes & evolution Humankind Worldwide had achieved....

Should the Palestinian Israeli issue be about land holdings, it can be resolved by International law, but unfortunately, RELIGION is far too useful to achieve global aims by lustful others, even at the costs of innocent lives....
 

Willamshakespear

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Just to add:-

The insignificant nobody me have NOTHING against the Shia Islam sect. In fact, I admire Ali, whom was chosen by Prophet Muhammad to lead, as he was a Humanist, but just sadly too far ahead of his time, which only ALLAH knows best, for one to elevate barbarians just converted to a religion of peace, & thus another was chosen.

I do not blame Prophet Muhammad's companions either, as they had much to learn about evolution. And even, some of them DID tried to allow Ali to become the Caliph, but others did not as Ali was assassinated, thus began the war between Sunnis & Shias, & saw many fierce battles in Arabia resulted in some Sunnis fleeing to South East Asia in Indonesia to begin new life, with attempts to tamper down the religious supremacy battles with the more humanistic teachings of Prophet Muhammad, not ironical as they whom fled, saw the light, brought peace, progress, cooperation with others & evolution to such lush & fertile valleys compared to desert lands of Arabia till the pivotal year of 1979.

I do not support the persecution of Shias in any way, such as some acts evident in some Sunni majority nations. They too are fellow Humans. But I do not support the Ayatollahs of Iran subtle & cunning manipulations to continue this battle of 1400yrs for religious supremacy, pitting INNOCENT Humans to decimate the few Sunnis whom are naive to pit themselves against 7 Billion Humanity thru the MISUSE & taking out of context religion of Islam which was meant for peace.
 

Loofydralb

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Show me one instance I cite jihadist source.

I doubt you even can fathom the depth of what jihad means.
After all you're an idol worshippers and polytheists that thinks one of your god shat.
You side with jihadists and believe their propaganda crap. Still believe in the nonsensical 72 virgins in paradise?
I asked you for a citation. Still cannot substantiate your claim?
Ah...the christian habit is claims without evidence, and then quietly change the bible.
 

duluxe

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Islam is a religion of Peace. Islam does NOT tolerate the killings of innocents under ANY circumstances.

A fatwa can only only be issued by QUALIFIED Muftis after DEEP considerations of FACTS & REALITIES on hand & is a NON LEGAL BINDING opinion. Religion is a PERSONAL relationship between a Human & the Almighty, & need not by swayed by anyone's opinion except by the WORDS of the Almighty & NEVER to be taken out of context.

As Islam is a religion of Peace & does NOT tolerate the killings of innocents, how would anyone whom claimed to be religious legal officer or scholar, a FATWA be issued to kill innocent others? Are they gods on Earth whom decides upon the life & death of Humans?

This is not imy first fatwa post. Islam is peaceful on paper, in reality islam is never peaceful. Islam started off as a warring religion to knock down the opponents.

Technically, islam is still at war and will be at war in the future. The war will only end when all the unbelivers surrendered or be killed.
 

duluxe

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U Cant expect 2 billion Muslims to be perfect. There will be hypocrites. Murtad too. Just like you. And those pedophilia priests/pastors. @JohnTan knows better. :biggrin:

As islam is always claimed by believers to be a PERFECT religion, it is reasonable to expect muslims to set very high standard for themselves and for non-believers to expect highly of muslims. Wrong?
 

Loofydralb

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Who reported it doesn't matter, the most critical info is that the fatwa has been issued.
In fact any tom dick or harry can issue a fatwa.
A fatwa is a jurisprudence opinion and has to be presented with supporting evidence from Quran and Sunnah.
Another person can object to this fatwa by presenting his own evidence.

How about you citing the evidence that support this fatwa?
Can't do it? It figures. Simple minds only read the headlines.
 

glockman

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Who reported it doesn't matter, the most critical info is that the fatwa has been issued.
That's such a fucking primitive and barbaric thing to do. And the fucked up thing is their goondu believers will actually act on it. Dangerous times ahead.

Just by saying what he said, Dr. Mahmoud Al-Shajrawi is now a dead man walking.
 

syed putra

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Hamas needed support, regardless how & where it came from & RELIGION, specifically MISUSING Islam, was the way they believed that it would gain them support, & thus sadly, many devout & peaceful Muslims were FOOLED into such support that saw chaos & killings Worldwide, & worse - in the name of Islam- a religion of Peace that Prophet Muhammad had worked so hard, so hard to bring civilization & progress to the barbaric nomadic tribes in Arabia..
Hamas was created by netsnyahu and his right wing supporters to isolate arafat and disrupt the two state solution. The extremist in israel wants entire Palestine for themselves. And that was why they supported hamas in the beginning. Of course now, hamas is out of control. They just realise making war and create violence can attract lots of donation. I dont think they want this problem resolved otherwise no income.
 

Willamshakespear

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Hamas was created by netsnyahu and his right wing supporters to isolate arafat and disrupt the two state solution. The extremist in israel wants entire Palestine for themselves. And that was why they supported hamas in the beginning. Of course now, hamas is out of control. They just realise making war and create violence can attract lots of donation. I dont think they want this problem resolved otherwise no income.

sigh...unsubstantiated conspiracy theories again when evidences of Islam-a religion of peace had been MISUSED & PROVEN. A long road ahead....

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JohnTan

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I asked you for a citation. Still cannot substantiate your claim?
Ah...the christian habit is claims without evidence, and then quietly change the bible.

You side with jihadists because you share the same mohammedan religion.

The typical moslem habit of lying about caring for justice and truth, when in reality you side with moslem terrorists because you share the same moslem religion and similar jihadist objectives.
 

JohnTan

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Hamas was created by netsnyahu and his right wing supporters to isolate arafat and disrupt the two state solution. The extremist in israel wants entire Palestine for themselves. And that was why they supported hamas in the beginning. Of course now, hamas is out of control. They just realise making war and create violence can attract lots of donation. I dont think they want this problem resolved otherwise no income.

So why do moslems love an Israeli creation called hamas?

moslems like to hide under "America created this" or "Israel created that" to draw attention away from the fact that vast majority of moslems support islamic terrorists.
 

syed putra

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sigh...unsubstantiated conspiracy theories again when evidences of Islam-a religion of peace had been MISUSED & PROVEN. A long road ahead....

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It is a known fact. The Israel right wing does not want a two state solution but prefer a greater Israel.
Peace will not be achieved unless properties seized are justly compensated.
 

syed putra

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So why do moslems love an Israeli creation called hamas?

moslems like to hide under "America created this" or "Israel created that" to draw attention away from the fact that vast majority of moslems support islamic terrorists.
Because arafat could not deliver the " Right to return". Palestinians with properties in current Israel want that back. so they voted hamas.
Both sides are getting more right wing and extreme so I doubt if any peace agreement can be achieved.
 
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