See how MINDEF become suckers...

[BuiKia]

LOL! Copy US to change uniform then now US change again when we just started. We will be wasting money to change again?

News of the US Army going back to non-pixelised uniforms has raised questions over whether Singapore will follow suit.

Barely a week before Republic of Singapore Air Force and Navy servicemen got their new pixelised uniforms, the US Army, pioneer of the digital camouflage, has decided to phase it out, according to a June 24 report in the online American paper The Daily.

Eight years and US$5 billion (about S$6.4 billion) later, the latter has ditched the pixelised camouflage as "soldiers have roundly criticised the grey-green uniform for standing out almost everywhere", The Daily said.

However, experts my paper spoke to said that the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) is unlikely to make the switch.

What works for the United States, which has in recent years fought largely in desert conditions in the Middle East, might not work for Singapore, said Mr Ho Shu Huang, an associate research fellow at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies (RSIS).

"The SAF operates mainly in a jungle environment. As far as I can tell, there's no reason the SAF should go back (to non-pixelised uniforms)," said Mr Ho.

Also, the financial investment and intensive research into the uniforms mean it would be impractical for the uniforms to be overhauled so soon.

As they had been introduced only in the past three years, "for SAF to change them again, it's going to incur huge costs", said Dr Bernard Loo, associate professor of strategy and war at RSIS.

The Americans are going for another camouflage, dubbed MultiCam, which is designed to help the soldier hide in varied environments. It was developed by Crye Associates and US Army Soldier Systems Center.

According to MultiCamPattern. com, the camouflage "takes on an overall green appearance when under a green forest canopy and an overall tan look when in the open desert".

"Since only a very small portion of the human eye perceives colour, the brain does a lot of 'filling-in' for the eye," it stated.

Even if the MultiCam camouflage proves more effective, the SAF seems unlikely to abandon its pixelised camouflage.

Mr Ho said that it will not be prudent to change all uniforms when not everyone is exposed to multiple environments. "In the ideal world, we will equip everyone with everything. But that is not the case," he reasoned.

But he does not rule out the SAF issuing new uniforms to specific vocations should the need arise.

The pixelised uniforms for the Navy and Air Force, in grey and blue, were donned officially for the first time at the annual SAF Day parade on Sunday. By the end of this month, all servicemen will wear pixelised uniforms.

Posted: 17 May 2012, 1100 hours (Time is GMT +8 hours)

Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) and Republic of Singapore Navy (RSN) personnel will soon receive new combat uniforms, commonly known as No. 4 uniforms. To meet the varying demands of the 3rd Generation Singapore Armed Forces' (SAF) operating environment, the SAF had introduced a new combat uniform for Army servicemen in 2008. The equipping of RSAF and RSN servicemen with the new No.4 uniform is part of the SAF's continuing effort to enhance the servicemen's survivability and operational effectiveness. This change will be phased-in progressively over the next three years.

For RSAF servicemen, the No.4 uniform will replace the current RSAF coverall for Air Force Engineers. Air Warfare Officers in the Command, Control and Communication community, as well as Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Pilots and Systems Specialists, will wear their No.4 uniforms during duty. For RSN servicemen, the No. 4 uniform will replace the Naval Combat Rig, worn by personnel on board ships, at naval bases and in base defence squadrons.

The new No. 4 uniforms will debut at this year's Singapore Armed Forces Day Parade and National Day Parade. Equipping for active servicemen will commence in the later part of 2012 while Operationally Ready National Servicemen will be progressively equipped from 2013 onwards.

 

[kingrant]

This is way too much! Someone shld raise this issue in parliament. What a waste of public funds! Is the SAF a sub unit of the U.S. Army? Why does it have to follow them?

 

[Capano2121]

The army going for a new enhanced camouflage that can blend in to any environment, that can be accepted & should be encouraged but find something that is suitable for localised context & environment lah! Navy & airforce donning camouflage? Hard to imagine a sailor trying to blend in with the environment when the bloody vessel itself is not blending in with anything at sea! Can the sailor just jumpt overboard & blend in with the environment when the time calls for? I envision only blue, it just bogs down to what shade of blue, that's all! And for the airforce; ground crew because of close proximity with the environment, camouflage should not be a issue when they can don the camouflage similar to the army but the pilots on mid flight blending in with the environment again i stress that the damn jet will be sticking out like a sore thumb, the only camouflage is white & looking like a big ball of cotton is the only way to camouflage because they will be looking like a floating cloud! Camouflaging sailors & pilots is just like envisioning a jet fighter pulling a hand brake & reverse to change direction! A BLOODY JOKE!

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

SAF is the most wasteful organization i know of. Just a simple thing like cookhouse ration is a huge joke. In reservist, we are told to scan to acknowledge our consumption and walk off if we do not wish to consume. They will also request for packed ration for all men, even though many do not wish to eat. End up at least 30-50% of rations are thrown away.

 

[Confuseous]

The latest, the auntie pattern army uniforms, was copied from the Americans. Whatever the Americans do, we copied. Now, even before every soldier is issued with the uniforms, the US realized their stupidity and is abandoning the pixelised uniforms for a more relevant pattern, which is another farce really. It is not very much different from the one that was replaced earlier. The victims will be the taxpayers for the billions of dollars spent to switch and switch. But that can be expected from the Americans as it is big business interests involved.

Now we will end up with this stupidity and trying to justify that it is the right thing. To me it looks sissy, and nothing like the jungle. It may fit into the wet market or the new botanic garden. And changing it will cost another bomb and another big logistic nightmare.

- http://mysingaporenews.blogspot.sg/2012/07/learning-to-eat-shit-blindly.html

 

[johnny333]

It's probably a busine$$ decision.

The Lees have a garment factory in Batam & I wouldn't be surprised if they'll be providing some if not all of the new uniforms

 

[Confuseous]

"As they had been introduced only in the past three years, "for SAF to change them again, it's going to incur huge costs", said Dr Bernard Loo, associate professor of strategy and war at RSIS."

No expenses are spared when it comes to Vivian overspending YOG budget by 300% but when it comes to the safety of our citizens, we have to bear in mind "the huge costs"!! This is just the kind of farking logic we need around here and how dispensable we are,

 

[Leongsam]

I would have thought FLIR would pretty much make camouflage obsolete. These sorts of cameras are now available for less than a thousand bucks.​

http://www.atncorp.com/atn-nightvision-thermal-camera-flir-sr-19-19mm

 

[eatshitndie]

It's probably a busine$$ decision.

The Lees have a garment factory in Batam & I wouldn't be surprised if they'll be providing some if not all of the new uniforms

every 8 years (2 election cycles) the pentagon will find excuses to keep the funding going. nothing wrong with the uniforms, just that better tech comes along and the gravy train rewards new toys.

 

[saratogas]

" SAF operates mainly in a jungle environment. " err... Our soldiers stand out like orange during FIBUA (fighting in built up areas) maybe the digital patterns will make our enemies dizzy.

 

[Leongsam]

Now we will end up with this stupidity and trying to justify that it is the right thing. To me it looks sissy, and nothing like the jungle. It may fit into the wet market or the new botanic garden. And changing it will cost another bomb and another big logistic nightmare.
l

What about the maids? Will they be issued with uniforms too? There's currently no standardisation of their dress code.

 

[KinKeeChiu]

SAF is the most wasteful organization i know of. Just a simple thing like cookhouse ration is a huge joke. In reservist, we are told to scan to acknowledge our consumption and walk off if we do not wish to consume. They will also request for packed ration for all men, even though many do not wish to eat. End up at least 30-50% of rations are thrown away.

This is what you do when you ask for X $$ during budgetting.

If you don't use all of them then you cannot ask for more the following year.

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

Maids do not need camo. They will act as a live target to distract the enemies, while the NS boy, er...man get to do his tactical movement.

 

[BuiKia]

Maid not need. They will serve to clean the uniform and double up as sex slave during war.

 

[KinKeeChiu]

Maids do not need camo. They will act as a live target to distract the enemies, while the NS boy, er...man get to do his tactical movement.

maids are for the NS boy to make more NS boys.

 

[soIsee]

Sinkie spend so much money to buy 'new clothing' to fight what?

They are already being taken out by FTs in the civilian attire so what the fuck do the Sinkie want to wear camo-the-fuck for? LOL

 

[TheBonerman]

It's one way to distinguish dumbfucks from Foreign Talent. In time to come, their girlfriends and wives will be fucked by FTs while they uphold patriotism in camp.

 

[Cestbon]

SAF wasting money. Just bulk bulk T-shirt from Giordano at $2/pcs.
SAF have no experience in war from the day start up.

 

[laksaboy]

This is way too much! Someone shld raise this issue in parliament. What a waste of public funds! Is the SAF a sub unit of the U.S. Army? Why does it have to follow them?

When it comes to the military and national defense, Singapore has always been the bitch of America. The naval bases welcome American aircraft carriers. The defense budget purchases American jets. The DSTA R&D shares knowledge with American defense firms. Singapore eagerly jumps into the US-led 'War on Terror', one of the 'coalition of the willing' members.

Philippines is also the bitch of America, but the Republika ng Pilipinas has at least some strategic value in the Pacific and a buffer state against US rival China. Singapore, on the other hand, is just Uncle Sam's bitch for its own sake.

 

[streetsmart73]

hi there


1. tsk tsk tsk!
2. why waste resources for some toyboy soldiers who have never engaged in some reallife warfare.
3. except for simulation games!