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Serious SCS War Any Time, Chinese Forces Seized US Navy Spy Probe after SAF Terrex!

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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...s-naval-probe-in-south-china-sea/3373900.html

China seizes US naval probe in South China Sea

Posted 17 Dec 2016 00:27 Updated 17 Dec 2016 02:51

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WASHINGTON: China "unlawfully" seized an unmanned US naval probe in international waters in the South China Sea, the Pentagon said on Friday (Dec 16), a move sure to heighten tensions around Beijing's military presence in the disputed area.

The underwater probe was taken around 90 kilometres northwest off Subic Bay in the Philippines on Thursday afternoon in a non-violent incident, Pentagon spokesman Navy Captain Jeff Davis said.

The event unfolded as the civilian-crewed USNS Bowditch was retrieving a pair of "naval gliders" that routinely collect information on water temperatures, salinity and sea clarity.

A Chinese Dalang-III class submarine rescue ship then stopped within 500 metres of the Bowditch and snatched one of the probes. The Americans safely hoisted the other one back onto their ship.

Davis said he could not recall another time when something like this has happened, and the Pentagon issued a statement calling on Beijing to "immediately" return the probe that it had "unlawfully seized."

The US personnel "were asking over bridge-to-bridge radio to please leave it there," Davis said. Other than a brief acknowledgment that it had received the message, the Chinese ship did not respond.

"The only thing they said after they were sailing off into the distance was: 'We are returning to normal operations,'" Davis said.

Washington has issued a formal request through diplomatic channels to ask for the probe back. "It is ours. It is clearly marked as ours. We would like it back, and we would like this not to happen again," Davis said.

Pentagon press secretary Peter Cook said China had acted unlawfully.

"The UUV (unmanned underwater vehicle) is a sovereign immune vessel of the United States. We call upon China to return our UUV immediately, and to comply with all of its obligations under international law," Cook said in a statement.

HEIGHTENED TENSIONS

Davis said the seized vessel is off-the-shelf technology that is commercially available for about US$150,000. Data it gathers are unclassified and can be used to help submarines navigate and determine sonar ranges in murky waters.

The incident comes amid rising tensions in the South China Sea, where China has moved to fortify its claims to the region by building out tiny reefs and islets into much larger artificial islands.

The Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia and Vietnam have competing claims in the South China sea, which is laced with the world's most heavily travelled international trade routes.

New satellite imagery made public on Wednesday by a US-based think tank showed China apparently has installed what appeared to be large anti-aircraft guns and close-in weapons systems on seven islets in the Spratly chain.

While the United States takes no position on sovereignty claims in the South China Sea, it has repeatedly stressed all maritime claims must comply with international law.

The US military has conducted several "freedom of navigation" operations in which ships and planes have passed close to the sites Beijing claims.

Such missions have drawn howls of fury from China, which accuses Washington of provocation and increasing the risk of a military mishap.

The USNS Bowditch is a research and survey vessel, and does not look like a warship.

Adding to the tension, Beijing is facing a new US president in Donald Trump, who has questioned longstanding US policy on Taiwan, called Beijing a currency manipulator and threatened Chinese imports with punitive tariffs.

The Chinese ship's hull number was ASR-510, the Pentagon said.

- AFP/am/de
 
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美国称中国在南海捕获美一艘水下航行器
2016年12月17日01:29 环球时报

  原标题:美称中国在南海捕获美国水下航行器


  [环球时报记者 张旺]据路透社16日报道,美国国防部一名官员当天表示,中国海军在南海国际水域捕获一艘美国的无人水下航行器。

  报道称,这名匿名官员表示,事件发生于本月15日的苏比克湾的西北方向。法新社援引该官员的话称,事发地点距离苏比克湾50英里。当时,美国一艘海洋调查船正打算收回这艘无人水下航行器。

  法新社引述该美国官员的话说,该航行器属于美国海军,但当时正由平民操作。报道称,事发时正值南海持续紧张之际。该官员表示,该航行器用于监测水的盐度和温度以绘制水文地图。

  [五角大楼称中国海军扣留了美方的水下无人艇] 美联社报道,五角大楼称,中国军舰在南海扣留了美国一艘海洋探测船的水下无人艇。英国卫报援引美方官员的话称,事发时,水下无人艇正在进行探测,收集非机密数据。报道称,美方已提出抗议并要求中方归还。(新浪)

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This is fantastic news and I am sure the US navy will exploit in the future. Right now, the US NAvy is packing 10kg of semtex in all its underwater probes from now on and hoping the chinese will steal another one. After that popcorn will be distributed on board the navy ship as the semtex is remotely detonated and the fireworks are on display.
 

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This is fantastic news and I am sure the US navy will exploit in the future. Right now, the US NAvy is packing 10kg of semtex in all its underwater probes from now on and hoping the chinese will steal another one. After that popcorn will be distributed on board the navy ship as the semtex is remotely detonated and the fireworks are on display.

US is a busy body who cant mind he own business,not only spying on China she is spying on all her allies,the europeans and her own citizens,why cant she stick her busybody nose somewhere it belongs?up her ass?she would need at least 1 million pounds of semtex just to equip every spy satelitte drone camera deployed out there watching u and me and the taliban taking a shit.
 

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Jesus boats or tealeaves boats that the British empire used to smuggled opium into China water.

Of course illegal opium trade history teaches Chinese not to trust chao angmoh Jesus boats in Chinese waters.

Sized anything that floats in Chinese waters resembled Jesus boats and nothing else.

SCS dispute is the same focal points where Chinese are defending Chinese water against chao British empire England and American from illegal drug traded in China.

Now u can see how Chao Angmoh smuggled opium into China pretending to invoked Chinese into opium war.
 

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Great news again! The stupid commie chinks fell right through the booby trap. Trump has no intention of making any trade deals with them. Trump is looking for war. Good luck, commie chinks.
 

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The Chinese are seriously over-estimating themselves. It doesn't pay to be arrogant and stupid.

There will be tensions and chaos if the behemoth decides to take the law into his own hands instead respecting international laws.


Singapore should be extremely careful to avoid the clash of the Titans.

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In times like this, it is better to keep the mouth shut.
 
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Time to stand up and face the bully, who has been trampling on your flower pots for years. Call his bluff and if need be settle it once and for all.
 

Wunderfool

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Time to stand up and face the bully, who has been trampling on your flower pots for years. Call his bluff and if need be settle it once and for all.

The unfortunate thing is that the land is infiltrated by the Chinese. You can't stand up and face the bully when he is right inside your homeland. You will self-explode.

The best recourse is keep your mouth shut and watch the movie that is about to start.
 

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Great news again! The stupid commie chinks fell right through the booby trap. Trump has no intention of making any trade deals with them. Trump is looking for war. Good luck, commie chinks.

by all means go ahead,the yankees have no political willpower nor national discipline to see something to the end,stupid yankees rarely finish anything they start,from the vietnam war to afgan war to iraq war,it simply falls apart,stagnates,drags on for years before they finally drag their sorry asses home.chinks are different,if we commit to doing something we see it to the end,thats why the chinks are in africa,in south america in the 3rd world countries,the shittiest shitholes and the harshest environment,chinks can take hardship and crap for a long time.americans are soft,they need their high tech gadgets their armored vehicles,their drones and what not which is why they cant defeat the sand niggers......and if u think the sand niggers are bad,take the sand niggers and multiply their numbers by a million times with a million times more equipment resources and huge manufacturing capability to churn out millions more of everything.

anyhow all this is irrelevant,China and chinks have no interest in war,we are not a warmongering imperialist country unlike USA.china has no interest except in developing their economy,making more money and eliminating poverty in the country.all this boils down to america's insecurity,her anxieties over the american hegemony slipping away from their fingers.bitch ass america constantly up everybody's assholes from russia to china to middle east to asia.
 

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the chinese got every right to keep it. anything floating in international waters is finders keepers.
 

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The unfortunate thing is that the land is infiltrated by the Chinese. You can't stand up and face the bully when he is right inside your homeland. You will self-explode.

The best recourse is keep your mouth shut and watch the movie that is about to start.

who is the real bully?americans who bring only guns and warships and death and suffering and conflict to the world,or the chinese who brings wealth and prosperity to over 130 countries in the world?
 

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who is the real bully?americans who bring only guns and warships and death and suffering and conflict to the world,or the chinese who brings wealth and prosperity to over 130 countries in the world?
Return me my Terrex and I agree with you 100%.
 

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This is fantastic news and I am sure the US navy will exploit in the future. Right now, the US NAvy is packing 10kg of semtex in all its underwater probes from now on and hoping the chinese will steal another one. After that popcorn will be distributed on board the navy ship as the semtex is remotely detonated and the fireworks are on display.

China is giving the USA a reason to start the inevitable war. China is fully aware of their moves and now the ball is in USA court. Back down and be exposed as a coward or have a war at China's door steps. This is indeed fantastic news for all Chinese, who are tired of being "Sick men of East Asia."
 

frenchbriefs

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Return me my Terrex and I agree with you 100%.

no thank you we dont need any hypocrite doggies on our team,u are simply one of those american dogs whose been on one side of the equation licking america's balls since the 1950s...imagine if u were on the other part of the world the huge list of countries whose been under attack by america's oppression for the past half a century,u wouldnt be so quick to lick america's nutsack now.

if this was star wars,america would be the evil empire trying to rule the galaxy.it is time the rebellion bring an end to that.
 

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no thank you we dont need any hypocrite doggies on our team,u are simply one of those american dogs whose been on one side of the equation licking america's balls since the 1950s...imagine if u were on the other part of the world the huge list of countries whose been under attack by america's oppression for the past half a century,u wouldnt be so quick to lick america's nutsack now.


if this was star wars,america would be the evil empire trying to rule the galaxy.it is time the rebellion bring an end to that.

Return my toys.
What do you call that taking other people things without asking for permission?
 

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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...s-naval-probe-in-south-china-sea/3373900.html


China seizes US naval probe in South China Sea
Posted 17 Dec 2016 00:27 Updated 17 Dec 2016 05:46

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WASHINGTON: China "unlawfully" seized an unmanned US naval probe in international waters in the South China Sea, the Pentagon said on Friday (Dec 16), a move sure to heighten tensions around Beijing's military presence in the disputed area.

The underwater vehicle was taken around 90 kilometres northwest off Subic Bay in the Philippines late Thursday in a non-violent incident, said Captain Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman.

The event unfolded as the civilian-crewed USNS Bowditch was retrieving a pair of "naval gliders" that routinely collect information on water temperatures, salinity and sea clarity.

A Chinese Dalang-III class submarine rescue ship then stopped within 500 metres of the Bowditch and snatched one of the probes. The Americans safely hoisted the other one back onto their ship.

Davis said he could not recall another time when something like this has happened, and the Pentagon issued a statement calling on Beijing to "immediately" return the probe that it had "unlawfully seized."

The US personnel "were asking over bridge-to-bridge radio to please leave it there," Davis said. Other than a brief acknowledgment that it had received the message, the Chinese ship did not respond.

"The only thing they said after they were sailing off into the distance was: 'We are returning to normal operations,'" Davis said.

Washington has issued a formal request through diplomatic channels to ask for the probe back. "It is ours. It is clearly marked as ours. We would like it back, and we would like this not to happen again," Davis said.

Pentagon press secretary Peter Cook said China had acted unlawfully.

"The UUV (unmanned underwater vehicle) is a sovereign immune vessel of the United States. We call upon China to return our UUV immediately, and to comply with all of its obligations under international law," Cook said in a statement.

HEIGHTENED TENSIONS

Davis said the seized vessel is off-the-shelf technology that is commercially available for about US$150,000. Data it gathers are unclassified and can be used to help submarines navigate and determine sonar ranges in murky waters.

The incident comes as President-elect Donald Trump has repeatedly infuriated Beijing, by questioning longstanding US policy on Taiwan, calling Beijing a currency manipulator and threatening Chinese imports with punitive tariffs.

"This was very likely a highly planned and escalatory move to show China will not take matters lightly when it comes to" Trump, said Harry Kazianis, the director of defence studies at the conservative Center for the National Interest.

"Beijing is showing it has the capability to respond in a time and place of its choosing."

Unless it is prepared to ramp up regional tensions, Washington has few options except to ask for the underwater vehicle back.

Senior Republican Senator John McCain said the United States should not tolerate "such outrageous conduct."

"This brazen provocation fits a pattern of increasingly destabilising Chinese behaviour, including bullying its neighbours and militarising the South China Sea," McCain said.

"This behaviour will continue until it is met with a strong and determined US response, which until now the Obama administration has failed to provide."

The incident comes amid broader tensions in the South China Sea, where China has moved to fortify its claims to the region by building out tiny reefs and islets into much larger artificial islands.

Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines and Vietnam have competing claims in the South China Sea, which is laced with the world's most heavily travelled international trade routes.

New satellite imagery made public on Wednesday by a US-based think tank showed China apparently has installed what appeared to be large anti-aircraft guns and close-in weapons systems on seven islets in the Spratly chain.

While the United States takes no position on sovereignty claims in the South China Sea, it has repeatedly stressed all maritime claims must comply with international law.

The US military has conducted several "freedom of navigation" operations in which ships and planes have passed close to the sites Beijing claims.

Such missions have drawn howls of fury from China, which accuses Washington of provocation and increasing the risk of a military mishap.

The USNS Bowditch is a research and survey vessel, and does not look like a warship.

The Chinese ship's hull number was ASR-510, the Pentagon said.

- AFP/am/de
 
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