No chance when Pinewood is doing RM1200 without much sales effort.
Maybe in Medini, you can get 600psf but not in PH.
In a bull market, there's no fundamentals. There's only greed.
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No chance when Pinewood is doing RM1200 without much sales effort.
Maybe in Medini, you can get 600psf but not in PH.
In a bull market, there's no fundamentals. There's only greed.
RM600psf...wow. tat would be the price of my Somerset Puteri Harbour units if u take away the furnishing and ID.
Hahaha....someone's wishful thinking
The best part is many assume on psf basis as comparison but anyone ever list the difference between every project in PH eg carparks, density, pools, voids, landscape, retails, furnishing, time of completion, potential yields, etc?
There's a big difference between Somerset, Encorp, Teega and Pinewood.
Hahaha....someone's wishful thinking
The best part is many assume on psf basis as comparison but anyone ever list the difference between every project in PH eg carparks, density, pools, voids, landscape, retails, furnishing, time of completion, potential yields, etc?
There's a big difference between Somerset, Encorp, Teega and Pinewood.
You have a point. Maybe someone with good knowledge k do a comparison
Things to compare: Track Record of Developer and Consulting Team; Fully furnished or unfurnished; Range of RMpsf; Marina or non-marina facing; ratio of carpark lots to unit type; Amenities; Ratio of household to amenities; highrise or lowrise; Completion date (Earlier may be worst off); etc.
Hahaha....someone's wishful thinking
The best part is many assume on psf basis as comparison but anyone ever list the difference between every project in PH eg carparks, density, pools, voids, landscape, retails, furnishing, time of completion, potential yields, etc?
There's a big difference between Somerset, Encorp, Teega and Pinewood.
dont forget Imperia.
Sorry.....How can I forget about this one...must be that iri feeling that I did not get to buy...hahaha
I start with Encorp. You guys can fill in your project details.
Land Title:Residential - Freehold
Total Units/Lots: 538 for 2 Towers
Maintenance Fee (psf):RM0.35
Completion Date:End 2015 (Expected)
Gym floor
6 swimming Pools on different levels ( 2 main pools and 2 sky pools for each tower)
Children’s Playground
Tennis Courts, Squash Courts
Yoga / Tai Chi Deck
Exclusive Club House / BBQ Deck
Putting Green by Jack Nicklaus
CMS Security System linked to authorities, smart card access.
24 hr Concierge Service
Retail space for supermarket, salons, laundry. clinic (most probably managed by Encorp themselves)
Car park bays - 1200 (1 no per room basis eg 2 bedroom unit have 2 car parks, 3 bedroom unit have 3 carparks)
Fully furnished: Including beds/pillows and kitchen utensils (have 3 designs to choose from)
Price: Approx. RM 900 - RM1200 psf (depending on levels)
Pls feel free to add anything...
Land Title:Residential - Freehold
Total Units/Lots: 538 for 2 Towers
Maintenance Fee (psf):RM0.35
Completion Date:End 2015 (Expected)
Gym floor
6 swimming Pools on different levels ( 2 main pools and 2 sky pools for each tower)
Children’s Playground
Tennis Courts, Squash Courts
Yoga / Tai Chi Deck
Exclusive Club House / BBQ Deck
Putting Green by Jack Nicklaus
CMS Security System linked to authorities, smart card access.
24 hr Concierge Service
Retail space for supermarket, salons, laundry. clinic (most probably managed by Encorp themselves)
Car park bays - 1200 (1 no per room basis eg 2 bedroom unit have 2 car parks, 3 bedroom unit have 3 carparks)
Fully furnished: Including beds/pillows and kitchen utensils (have 3 designs to choose from)
Price: Approx. RM 900 - RM1200 psf (depending on levels)
Pls feel free to add anything...
No news of what's the next development. By the way, any idea what's going to happen on the opposite side of PH?
Encorp is a much better well known developer .. wont run away .. the pinewood developer got do luxury condo before or not ? Little lambs buying at Rm1200 to Rm1300 ..Mmmm why not buy From Encorp Sunrise Uem far far far safer... Unless its Rm600 to max Rm700 then can consider the risk buying from non premium developer.. Even SP Setia selling at only Rm400. With Rm1200 if for investment buy 3 units (no sea, contra with TGV largest cinema, Jusco,Tesco,Giant Megamalls and direct bus to Singapore JE MRT every 10mins !) is far better than just 1 unit on a non premium developer leh ..For own stay then maybe ok kuar for little lambs.. Oh Ya i not getting a single cent here so advice here has no strings attached hor ...
ya ya at rm1300 little lambs being eaten by wolfs willingly kaur .... wait till DJIA coming collapse world crisis coming soon then the greedy lambs will know .. aiyah dont say have not been warn .. warren buffet says " be very fearful when everyone is greedy, be greedy (collapse coming soon) when everyone is fearful (in the coming deep recession).
Interesting news from another thread. It says Iskandar but did not mention Nusajaya.
What do you think?
Ancol Siap Bangun Theme Park di Malaysia
Whery Enggo Prayogi - detikfinance
Selasa, 27/11/2012 17:08 WIB
Jakarta - PT Pembangunan Jaya Ancol Tbk (PJAA), pengelola taman rekreasi (theme park) yang paling dikenal di Indonesia berencana mengembangkan bisnis ke Malaysia. Bekerja sama dengan pemerintah setempat, melalui BUMN Malaysia Khazanah, Ancol siap mengoperasikan rekreasi modern di Johor.
Direktur Pembangunan Jaya Ancol, Winarto menjelaskan, pihaknya diundang oleh pemerintah Malaysia untuk mengembangkan theme park pertama di wilayah dekat Singapura ini. "Kami yang diundang langsung. Sekarang masih proses pemilihan lahan," kata Winarto kepada detikFinance, Selasa (27/11/2012).
Khazanah menilai, perseroan memiliki pengalaman dalam mengembangkan pusat rekreasi. Hadirnya theme park juga dipercaya akan mengangkap perekonomian wilayah setempat. Khazanah bertindak sebagai comblang antara investor (Jaya Ancol) dengan investor lokal.
Pembangunan ditargetkan mulai tahun depan, dengan target lahan yang dikuasai minimal 50 ha dari target keseluruhan 100 ha. "Kami sekarang sedang melihat-lihat lahan yang tepat," tuturnya.
Menurut Winarto, kawasan Johor cukup prospektif. Terlebih pemerintah Malaysia tengah menciptakan kawasan baru bernama Iskandar Development Region and South Johor Economic Region. Lahan di Johor juga masih murah, hingga memungkinkan untuk dikembangkan dengan serius.
"Di Johor harganya 1/10-nya tanah di Singapura. Jarak ke Singapura juga cuma beberapa menit," paparnya.
Banyak Theme Park Baru Bermunculan, Ancol Bangga Jadi Pelopor
Bisnis theme park kini menjadi lirikan banyak perusahaan swasta. Ancol pun kini memiliki pesaing serius setelah selama puluhan tahun belakangan menjadi pemimpin pasar industri ini.
Winarto pun sangat mengapreasisi rencana pembangunan theme park baru tersebut. "Ini bagus, karena masyarakat semakin banyak pilihan," ucapnya.
Ia menilai, bisnis pusat rekreasi modern muncul karena tumbuhnya kelas menengah baru. Akibat pertumbuhan ekonomi yang terjaga, membuat masyarakat punya kemampuan lebih dan cenderung menghabiskannya untuk hiburan.
Seperti diketahui dua grup swasta, MNC dan Bakrie, kini tengah serius mengembangkan theme park baru untuk menyaingi Ancol. PT MNC Land Tbk (dulu bernama PT Global Land Development Tbk) siap membangun theme park di Lido, Sukabumi di kawasan seluas 1.000 ha yang sebelumnya milik Bakrie.
Hary Tanoesoedibjo bahkan menjanjikan theme park miliknya sekelas Disneyland, atau Universal Studio. Total investasi pendirian theme park ini mencapai Rp 6 triliun. Selain membangun taman hiburan, perseroan berencana membangun kawasan terintegrasi mulai dari hotel, resort.
PT Bakrieland Development Tbk (ELTY) juga ingin membangun theme park di wilayah yang sama. Tahap awal, melalui anak usahanya, PT Bukit Jonggol Asri anak usaha grup Baki ini tengah membangun Jungleland Adventure Theme Park.
Theme Park seluas 40 hektar ini terdiri dari 8 zona thematik yang akan menyediakan lebih dari 43 permainan modern (rides) diperuntukan bagi anak-anak, remaja, dewasa dan keluarga. Pembangunan tahap pertama Jungleland direncanakan selesai pada Desember 2012 dengan empat zona yaitu Carnival, Explora, Mysteria, dan Tropicalia serta Downtown. Jungleland Adventure Theme Park ada di sekitar Sentul dan Jonggol.
What do you think?
Ancol Siap Bangun Theme Park di Malaysia
Whery Enggo Prayogi - detikfinance
Selasa, 27/11/2012 17:08 WIB
Jakarta - PT Pembangunan Jaya Ancol Tbk (PJAA), pengelola taman rekreasi (theme park) yang paling dikenal di Indonesia berencana mengembangkan bisnis ke Malaysia. Bekerja sama dengan pemerintah setempat, melalui BUMN Malaysia Khazanah, Ancol siap mengoperasikan rekreasi modern di Johor.
Direktur Pembangunan Jaya Ancol, Winarto menjelaskan, pihaknya diundang oleh pemerintah Malaysia untuk mengembangkan theme park pertama di wilayah dekat Singapura ini. "Kami yang diundang langsung. Sekarang masih proses pemilihan lahan," kata Winarto kepada detikFinance, Selasa (27/11/2012).
Khazanah menilai, perseroan memiliki pengalaman dalam mengembangkan pusat rekreasi. Hadirnya theme park juga dipercaya akan mengangkap perekonomian wilayah setempat. Khazanah bertindak sebagai comblang antara investor (Jaya Ancol) dengan investor lokal.
Pembangunan ditargetkan mulai tahun depan, dengan target lahan yang dikuasai minimal 50 ha dari target keseluruhan 100 ha. "Kami sekarang sedang melihat-lihat lahan yang tepat," tuturnya.
Menurut Winarto, kawasan Johor cukup prospektif. Terlebih pemerintah Malaysia tengah menciptakan kawasan baru bernama Iskandar Development Region and South Johor Economic Region. Lahan di Johor juga masih murah, hingga memungkinkan untuk dikembangkan dengan serius.
"Di Johor harganya 1/10-nya tanah di Singapura. Jarak ke Singapura juga cuma beberapa menit," paparnya.
Banyak Theme Park Baru Bermunculan, Ancol Bangga Jadi Pelopor
Bisnis theme park kini menjadi lirikan banyak perusahaan swasta. Ancol pun kini memiliki pesaing serius setelah selama puluhan tahun belakangan menjadi pemimpin pasar industri ini.
Winarto pun sangat mengapreasisi rencana pembangunan theme park baru tersebut. "Ini bagus, karena masyarakat semakin banyak pilihan," ucapnya.
Ia menilai, bisnis pusat rekreasi modern muncul karena tumbuhnya kelas menengah baru. Akibat pertumbuhan ekonomi yang terjaga, membuat masyarakat punya kemampuan lebih dan cenderung menghabiskannya untuk hiburan.
Seperti diketahui dua grup swasta, MNC dan Bakrie, kini tengah serius mengembangkan theme park baru untuk menyaingi Ancol. PT MNC Land Tbk (dulu bernama PT Global Land Development Tbk) siap membangun theme park di Lido, Sukabumi di kawasan seluas 1.000 ha yang sebelumnya milik Bakrie.
Hary Tanoesoedibjo bahkan menjanjikan theme park miliknya sekelas Disneyland, atau Universal Studio. Total investasi pendirian theme park ini mencapai Rp 6 triliun. Selain membangun taman hiburan, perseroan berencana membangun kawasan terintegrasi mulai dari hotel, resort.
PT Bakrieland Development Tbk (ELTY) juga ingin membangun theme park di wilayah yang sama. Tahap awal, melalui anak usahanya, PT Bukit Jonggol Asri anak usaha grup Baki ini tengah membangun Jungleland Adventure Theme Park.
Theme Park seluas 40 hektar ini terdiri dari 8 zona thematik yang akan menyediakan lebih dari 43 permainan modern (rides) diperuntukan bagi anak-anak, remaja, dewasa dan keluarga. Pembangunan tahap pertama Jungleland direncanakan selesai pada Desember 2012 dengan empat zona yaitu Carnival, Explora, Mysteria, dan Tropicalia serta Downtown. Jungleland Adventure Theme Park ada di sekitar Sentul dan Jonggol.
Any English translation or at least a brief summary of the article?
All marina units taken up at 1200-1350psf? wow....easily 30% higher in psf than the 1st 2 projects (SPH & Imperia)...hmm...any idea which nationality took up the most? ...this property did not have big marketing(at least not that i know of), so i'm pretty surprise of the allege take up..
Hi...i'm also a owner of SPH...can u enlighten me how do you arrive at 600psf?...are you are or is it a industry norm to assume the furnishing & ID to be >200psf?...thanks...
PT Pembangunan Jaya Ancol Tbk is an Indonesia-based property management company. The Company is engaged in the construction business as a developer and general contractor, as well as providing construction planning and consultation services. The Company manages and operates Atlantis Water Adventure park, Dunia Fantasi theme park, Gelanggang Samudra aquarium, Sea World, a bowling center, a golf course, an art market, Hailai International executive club, Putri Duyung resort, Bidadari island and Marina harbor. As of December 31, 2011, the Company had four direct subsidiaries, which include PT Taman Impian Jaya Ancol, PT Seabreez Indonesia, PT Sarana Tirta Utama and PT Jaya Ancol.
http://als-eno.blogspot.com/2012/08/ancol-dreamland-indonesia.html
Press release by Ancol to the business times of Indonesia last week (In short this is what they are saying)
Jaya Ancol is working with Khazanah to manage and operate the theme park with a local investor in Johor. It would be minutes from Singapore and now in the planning process. The target date is 2013 with a minimal 50 hectares out of 100 hectares. They are now in the process of selecting the suitable location in the Iskandar Development region.
http://als-eno.blogspot.com/2012/08/ancol-dreamland-indonesia.html
Press release by Ancol to the business times of Indonesia last week (In short this is what they are saying)
Jaya Ancol is working with Khazanah to manage and operate the theme park with a local investor in Johor. It would be minutes from Singapore and now in the planning process. The target date is 2013 with a minimal 50 hectares out of 100 hectares. They are now in the process of selecting the suitable location in the Iskandar Development region.
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I bought 4 units from them after all in discount n rebate is RM700psf cos mine are 3 bedders 1500sqf. They also waive the S$5k that I need to pay to book.
I just assume RM100psf for ID and furnishing. Pls correct me
heehee.. dun have direct marina view but partial marina view... cos corner units
It's very common for so called all take up esp by non premium developer. They just do an internal adjustment. At rm1300 when it comes to the real otp and spa signing many many will pull out of the sale last min. with online banking just need a click of the button to stop chq so dont be too fooled by
claims that at rm 1300 is taken up, remember its not a done deal till spa is signed, and since its not a logical price based not on fundamentals many little lambs will suddenly wake up and pull out of the deal. This happen to Imperia, originally it was suppose to soft sale at rmXxxx, due to legal reasons i cant tell u full details but after being full "booked" at pre pre launch many pull out and didnt commit so it was ... long story short.. finally sold at rm600+ at the actual fair value. Encorp is very very different so thats another story. Anyway lets see if little lambs will wake up just before the wolf bite them or before the knife slaughter by the butcher. Not all little lambs are that naive...
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