The reliance on technocrats and the ability of these technocrats to create jobs, aim for full employment and keep the GDP going were the primary features. It did seem to work. My sense is that the son is just a poor leader and things are falling apart. Ever heard of a leader that disappears when there is a crisis on.
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PAP Leadership Crisis
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Bro, you may be right. Though the local and international press still think that BN will win, my contacts tell me that Anwar has more than a fighting chance.
I am not sure it will go to that extent. If that happens, their MPs will be trashed at the polls as they will be deemed as usual and would serve no purpose.
I however do worry about the old man's thoughts on increased votes power for selected parts of society. That would serve the same purpose as gerrymandering. I remember when he mentioned it, a chill went down my spine. What a bastard!
I however do worry about the old man's thoughts on increased votes power for selected parts of society. That would serve the same purpose as gerrymandering. I remember when he mentioned it, a chill went down my spine. What a bastard!
Maybe not with the present absentee PM and the motley crew. There is no great communicator like the Old man to push it thru, thank God. If they ever embark on it, they may not do that when the electoral system is still on. they may get the populace to accept a nomination system and from an entrenched position with all the incumbent advantage, then secretly give away benefits and official positions to businessmen, and elite connections who are card-carrying Party members, in return for support, much like the Nazi party during the Third Reich.
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hahaha...lumber1 PLP has reported in.....must also report in to show my supports....
my idol has gone off the boil and is making a fool of himself each day with his shallow and naive analysis....
PE 2011 was a sham and he swallowed it hook, line and sinker....
All 4 candidates have been linked with papee for a long time....and many were surprised thay could get the certificate to stand in the first place.......
TCB was a long time papeeMP and cadre member and suddenly in PE2011, he was protrayed as anti-establishment/papee....
u are a real idiot to think that TCB would have given papee a hard time had he been elected.....
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Scroobal, You are the bastard with many similar traits.
You are such a cunning and manipulative snake that you started this thread a few weeks before GE 2011 to try and sabotage the opposition campaign.
When it is not during election time, you will post little irrelevant jabs at the pap, hoping that it would make you appear to be for the people and the opposition but against the pap. Only the simple minded will be taken in by you.
http://singsupplies.com/showthread.php?89550-The-Chen-Show-Mao-Affair
hahaha....scroobal, u really have a thick hide and true to your colours....
u must add in "my contacts" to boast that u have contacts......
honestly.....i have not cum across another person with a thicker hide.....
seems like u are only left with 2 PLPs....the king and kukubird......lol.
hahaha...just to elaborate on what a idot u are...the writings were already on the walls in 1993 and u think it was some new phenomena.
In 1993, Former Deputy Prime Minister Ong Teng Cheong defeated former Accountant-General Chua Kim Yeow, with a vote share of 58.69% to 41.31%.
Chua was an unknown to most pple....did not campaign at all.....and yet garner more than 40%.
No extreme measures will be implemented in the Son's era. He does not have the leadership nor the stomach nor the intelligence for that. Incrementally, we might see a move to liberalize the political field and have some form of proportional representation which will appease the voters by giving them a few more opposition members. Meanwhile the PAP will continue to scrape the bottom of the barrel in search of ministerial talent and the next few years will be very punishing because they will continue to face increased problems in the recruitment front.
I also suspect that whatever liberaliztion occurs will be designed to benefit WP and NSP, the two largest parties.
The old man floated the idea in 1991 and did not pass muster. The son will not do anything drastic. He has neither the courage nor the leadership nor the intelligence for anything of that sort.
His honors degree is not fake. His intelligence is suspect or I think it has eroded over the years because of his sheltered lifestyle. I think Tracy said he would be better off as an academic.
I think you are right. I am not sure even if he wants to lead. Seems to have lost heart.
This is true. But this is also an issue worldwide. Housing prices have risen much faster relative to wages in most of the developed world. Only that it's been a more severe problem in Singapore than elsewhere.
The problem is that the rest of the world had screwed up economic policies and PAP decided to copy these policies.
That's a little strange. The post GE2011 seems more like a consolidation of power for LHL. He got LKY and GCT out of the way and now there is nobody else but him. IT's a really bad time for him to be losing heart.
There will be one more round of national conversation. In a way this national conversation is a good smokescreen because whether or not you like the PAP you have to admit that there is no such thing as just one round of national conversation, because it takes a while for the ship to turn round. So either this is a genuine effort at change - which will take some time because everybody here knows it's very hard for the PAP to change. Or it is a smokescreen in which case LHL would have bought himself some time. Or when things screw up they can always say "well we tried something - didn't work.
I would instead say that he has intelligence but not courage or heart. So different from his father who has all three.
It's hard and rather extreme to convert to proportional representation. The PAP will not want to do that, ever. The thing about first past the post system is that an entrenched party can lose one election, and still gain it back after 1 cycle. Then you'd be like a place like Taiwan or Japan where the main party has lost an election before, but you still cannot call it a two party system because the other party is not as strong as the main party.
Whereas in a proportional system, you will give away power permanently.
I'm sure that PAP is in some way sleeping with the business community of Singapore already.
No doubt it is. Have you ever seen MPs with fingers in evry pie? Look at Yeo guat Kuang's resume, how many directorships and chairs he has? What is his intention if not to give the impression that he can help open doors? What is the intention of those businesses and associations who invite him onboard if not to use his leverage? And the amusing thing is he thinks it's something to be proud of. Scary.
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