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MALAYSIAN Airlines flight en route to China is missing.

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During the 80/90s, the most dangerous airlines are the china airline follow by the south korea airline.

Yep, but some idiots here don't trust malay pilots. hahaha. They should go and fly China airlines or any of the PRC airlines, than they know what fear in the air is.
 

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Of course they have SAR planes, but the sea is very big. Its not that easy to locate a debris field, especially if its raining or what not. At this stage, its not really SAR anymore, more like body recovery and wreckage recovery.

I no experience lah but watching tv had seen US coast guards helicopter finding fishermen in Baring Sea after their crab or fishing boat sunk in heavy weather with only reference point given by boat captain before boat sank. The MAS have the last position of the plane before its transponder fail, surely the MAS equipment is better that those fishing boat.
 

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Vietnam confirms MAS flight crashed into sea off Tho Chu island

March 08, 2014

Family members of those onboard the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 making their way to the waiting area at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Sepang today. There are still no confirmed reports of what caused the crash. – The Malaysian Insider pic by Nazir Sufari, March 8, 2014. Family members of those onboard the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 making their way to the waiting area at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Sepang today. There are still no confirmed reports of what caused the crash. – The Malaysian Insider pic by Nazir Sufari, March 8, 2014. MAS flight MH370 which went missing early this morning disappeared in Vietnamese airspace, the Vietnamese government has confirmed.

"The plane lost contact in Ca Mau province airspace before it had entered contact with Ho Chi Minh City air traffic control," a statement posted on the official Vietnamese government website said.

The plane was meant to transfer to Ho Chi Minh City air traffic control at 1.22am Malaysian time but never appeared, the statement reported by AFP said, citing a senior Ministry of Defence official.

The Ministry of Defence launched rescue efforts to find the plane, working in coordination with Malaysian and Chinese officials.

The Vietnamese navy had earlier confirmed that Kuala Lumpur-Beijing bound Flight MH370 had crashed into the sea off Tho Chu island.

Tuoi Tre quoted Navy Admiral Ngo Van Phat, Commander of Region 5, as saying that military radar reported that the plane crashed into the sea at a location 246km south of Phu Quoc island.

Meanwhile, distraught families of the 227 passengers and 12 crew members on board the Kuala Lumpur-Beijing bound flight MH370 have gathered at the Support Facility Building at KLIA’s South Support Zone where they are hoping for news of their missing relatives.

Some are in tears and consoled each other as they sought out officials for the latest news.

MAS Group chief executive officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said flight MH370 went missing somewhere between Malaysian and Vietnamese airspace over the South China Sea at 2.40am.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak said he had asked "all measures possible to be taken" to locate the missing aircraft.

"My thoughts and prayers are with the family members of flight MH370. I've asked all measures possible to be taken," Najib tweeted.

Acting Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein also advised family members of passengers on board a missing MAS flight to stay calm and ignore speculation. He said they should get information only from validated sources.

"I'm making my way to the flight management building (in Sepang) from Janda Baik (Pahang) to get updates and details from the agencies involved. In the meantime, don't speculate," he tweeted.

The B777-200 aircraft had left Kuala Lumpur at 12.41am and was scheduled to land in Beijing at 6.30am.

It lost contact with the Subang air traffic control at 2.40am. The 239 passengers and crew onboard the missing MH370 bound for Beijing this morning were from 14 different countries, including the United States, Canada, France and Malaysia.

Ahmad Jauhari said the passengers comprised of citizens from China (152 plus an infant); Malaysia (38); Indonesia (12); Australia (7); France (3); United States of America – 3 pax plus 1 infant; New Zealand (2); Ukraine (2); Canada (2); Russia (1); Italy (1); Taiwan (1); Netherlands (1) and Austria (1).

"This flight was a code share with China Southern Airlines. We are working with authorities who have activated their search and rescue team to locate the aircraft," he said.

The flight was piloted by Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, a Malaysian, aged 53. He had a total flying hours of 18,365 hours. He joined Malaysia Airlines in 1981. First officer Fariq Ab Hamid, a Malaysian, is 27. He has a total flying hours of 2,763 hours. He joined Malaysia Airlines in 2007.

Ahmad Jauhari said the last reported position of MH370 was 120 nautical miles off Kota Baru, around the South China Sea. – March 8, 2014.
 

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Yep, but some idiots here don't trust malay pilots. hahaha. They should go and fly China airlines or any of the PRC airlines, than they know what fear in the air is.


Yes indeed. Malaysian Airlines has a very excellent safety track record and the pilots included mostly Malay pilots. The worse airlines are sadly China airlines who used to crash alot esp in the 80s and 90s leading to ppl describing Chinese planes as flying coffins.This has nothing to do with race or Malays.
 

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Yep, but some idiots here don't trust malay pilots. hahaha. They should go and fly China airlines or any of the PRC airlines, than they know what fear in the air is.

The worst part is china airlines belong to technologically more advanced Taiwanese despite its name, had nothing to do with PRC. Many suspect it due to many ex fighter pilots becoming airlines captain with too little flying time in multi engines. Same as south korean airlines where many are ex fighter pilots. But SIA also recruit for same sources don't have the same problem.
 

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I no experience lah but watching tv had seen US coast guards helicopter finding fishermen in Baring Sea after their crab or fishing boat sunk in heavy weather with only reference point given by boat captain before boat sank. The MAS have the last position of the plane before its transponder fail, surely the MAS equipment is better that those fishing boat.

A sinking boat is a slow event, and it affords a captain the time to talk to the coast guard and give his position via GPS reading. Definitely, they could have had a radar fix of the last location of this plane, without even a beacon squawk from the plane, but its not pin point accurate. Also in the Bering sea during crab season, the US Coast Guard is placed on short alert anyway because to historical danger associated with fishing that timeof the year. Not sure the Malaysians or Vietnamese SAR is that fast.
 

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The worst part is china airlines belong to technologically more advanced Taiwanese despite its name, had nothing to do with PRC. Many suspect it due to many ex fighter pilots becoming airlines captain with too little flying time in multi engines. Same as south korean airlines where many are ex fighter pilots. But SIA also recruit for same sources don't have the same problem.

Many of the crashes happened due to the cockpit culture in the Taiwanese and Korean airlines. Even if the plane commander is wrong, the jr flight deck officer dare not raise it up. Some of my RSAF friends ended up flying for SQ. Like you said, they flew small single seat jets and than went to multi engine passenger planes. But they usually flew for many years as a co-pilot under usually an angmo captain. So, they learn a different cockpit culture. For me, I think China airlines and Korean airlines rushed too many of their ex-military pilots into the captain's chair.
 

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Just heard from one of my friends that his cousin was on the flight. Very sad news.
 

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All those SAR joint excerises all must be wayang. The blackbox has a transponder rite? Sure that will lead search planes and ships to crash site.
 

sleaguepunter

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Many of the crashes happened due to the cockpit culture in the Taiwanese and Korean airlines. Even if the plane commander is wrong, the jr flight deck officer dare not raise it up. Some of my RSAF friends ended up flying for SQ. Like you said, they flew small single seat jets and than went to multi engine passenger planes. But they usually flew for many years as a co-pilot under usually an angmo captain. So, they learn a different cockpit culture. For me, I think China airlines and Korean airlines rushed too many of their ex-military pilots into the captain's chair.

I know an ex freedom fighter pilot being a captain of A380 for SQ.
 

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The worst safety record for an Asian airline is Mongolian Airlines, no contest.

However, to die in the company of pretty Mongolian stewardesses may not be a bad thing. :wink:


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MISSING MH370: MAS releases MH370 passenger and crew manifest


NAME NATIONALITY AGE

1. An/Wenlan China 65

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90. Liu/Shunchao China 46

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103. MatRahim/Norfadzillah Malaysia 39

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122. Siregar/Firman India 25

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126. Su/Qiangguo China 71

127. Suadaya/Ferryindra Indonesia 42

128. Suadaya/Herryindra Indonesia 35

129. Sugianto/Lo Indonesia 47

130. Surtidahlia Netherlands 50


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What BS is this? There is no way the plane was flying off course. They have GPS on board, plus multiple compasses, plus they can always call up air traffic control if they thought they were off course. It might be a case of vertigo, but the pilot is experienced and usually by this stage of the flight, the computer is flying the plane on auto pilot. The pilots are not even touching the control column, they are just monitoring the instruments.
I was considering the possibility that there is some need / request to change the flight path. However, error was made in altering the flight path and it goes unnoticed. That was what I remembered in the case I had mentioned. The pilot misread the terrain of the new route and flew too low. Well let's wait for the outcome.
 

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26496673

Territorial disputes over the South China Sea were set aside temporarily as China dispatched two maritime rescue ships and the Philippines deployed three air force planes and three navy patrol ships.

Singapore is also involved, while Vietnam sent aircraft and ships and asked fishermen in the area to report any suspected sign of the missing plane.


Will we get a lower price for the Johor water if we find the plane?
 
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