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iwant these clowns to resign and never contest again

Narong Wongwan

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In my opinion, if Oppos wants to challenge the ruling Party, they should first get rid of all those useless parties and to reform or unite it to not more than 2 oppo parties in the next GE in 4/5 years’ time otherwise fat hope :smile:

Still got next GE?
You must be young chap with big dreams.
 

KuanTi01

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In my opinion, if Oppos wants to challenge the ruling Party, they should first get rid of all those useless parties and to reform or unite it to not more than 2 oppo parties in the next GE in 4/5 years’ time otherwise fat hope :smile:

WP & SDP remains well-focussed and well-structured.So there is still hope for them if they can continue to reinvent themselves and stay relevant by attracting new high calibre members. Lim Tean is a gem and a good man with a good heart. He should resign from NSP & join either the WP or SDP. Let NSP fade into the horizons. People like GMS & others like him although brave & willing are simply not good enough. As for the rest, I don"t think I even need to mention their names; being out-of-sync; irrelevant & who also came across as opportunistic, hysterical & theatrical! Just my 2 cents'worth!:(
 

HK14K

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Goh meng seng

tan jee say

kenneth

ben pwee

From day one when our dear PM announced that he wants this GE, all the aces cards are in his hands... Do you think PAP are stupid enough to go into an Election with no confidence of winning???

Like what i mentioned 3 years ago in this forum. Pls remember which department ELD falls under. Those people dreaming of PAP falling apart in recent years are just pure dreamers!!!
 

eErotica69

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The Chee's should step aside and let the Professional in SDP runs the Party.

I am not saying that the Chees are no good, but they just carry with them too many political baggage.
 

fuckSDPparty

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Told your guys Liao, SDP cannot be trusted ONE.

Pappy Tan The only PAP 'B' Team Singaporeans witness past 20 years is SDP and Dr Chee. Dr Chee at 1994 broke up a perfectly growing SDP under Chiam See Tong and lost all 3 seats at GE1997 that was won at GE1991 under Chiam See Tong's SDP.

This is because Chee's SDP decide to focus on making as much inaccurate noise in Parliament, being aggressive in Parliament, exposing SDP to lawsuits , conducting civil disobedience and getting arrested rather than running town councils and bonding with residents via grassroots.

The loss caused Singaporeans to lose faith in Alternatives for 20 years untl GE2011 when WP made a difficult breakthrough. PAP kept harping Alternatives cannot run a SMC let alone a GRC because of SDP's loss at GE1997. SDP almost destroyed Alternatives Government Cause with their antics.

Civil disobedience, bankruptcy, arrests, lawsuits etc gave Alternatives a bad image and reminded Singaporeans to fear PAP even more. SDP actually helped made PAP more feared and more powerful instead and Singaporeans felt more hopeless.

Many good people wanted to join Alternatives but seeing Dr Chee's situation decided not to. This lack of good people joining Alternatives gave many Walkovers to PAP for 20 years in every elections. SDP only gave Walkovers to Singaporeans at elections because CSJ and gang kept getting barred from elections because
of their antics.

What choice, what democracy, what rights, what hope, what change, what impact and what freedom did SDP gave Singaporeans past 20 years ? Nothing at all.SDP did nothing at all to contribute to
the Alternative Government Cause.

Now PAP once again wants to unleash the Kraken in CSJ to confuse and disrupt alternative parties progress from GE2011 by agreeing to give discount from $500,000 to $30,000 so that CSJ can take part in elections. Destructive, disruptive and history repeats itself.

SPP at least kept one seat in Parliament for 15 years after GE1997 and never got voted out and lose seats before GE2011. SPP was already small and weak when Chiam started it. 15 years down the road under different political landscape, SPP did contest one GRC at least. One less than SDP only who under Chee did not grow much too despite having longer time of brand name.

It took Chiam and SDP 15 years to win 3 seats at GE1991. So how can you say SDP would not have grown under Chiam when SDP did grew under Chiam at GE1991.Not even WP lost seats before. JBJ was disqualified from Parliament after being charged and Yaw Shin Leong was sacked by WP. None was voted out.

SDP under Dr Chee after GE1997 past 15 years got voted out of Bukit Gombak and Nee Soon Central, never grow but got smaller and did not even win any seats. You call this good record ?

It is not grandmother's story but true facts. No Singaporean Alternatives Supporter want to sacrifice another 20 years and see no result from any Alternative Parties.

Technically and officially, somebody here said there is only one Opposition in Parliament which is WP because the rest are either NCMPs or alternative parties with no seats. Even to be Opposition, political parties need to win enough seats to be Opposition.

I still believe in growing only WP to be Government as fast as possible base on Hougang and Aljunied platforms. This is regardless what other alternative parties try to pull off, their antics and plans. Every party have its own style, voters will decide.

No point running down each alternative parties now. You can run down WP all you want ONLY after WP is government and be blamed for WP government policies.

No more Alternative Parties Musical Chairs we seen last 47 years.

What bloody use is NATO policies from SDP if SDP cannot win seats. Original idea of DEMOCRACY is change governments via voting, NOT change Opposition Parties. Where is the Alternative Government when voters keep growing and shrinking Opposition Parties while PAP happily stay in power. All those supporting SDP to take part are PAP IBs.
 

fuckSDPparty

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[FONT=&amp]There are good laughs to be had reading about some more clear lies by Chee Soon Juan cited in Parliamentary transcripts:
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[FONT=&amp]""" Let me talk about Chee Soon Juan. Chee Soon Juan's behaviour was most illustrative. When pressed on the obvious contradictions between the SDP team's statements during the Select Committee hearing, and its written defence for the Committee of Privileges hearing, Chee Soon Juan based his "explanations" on a strangely convenient coincidence of typographical errors, confusion and selective amnesia. Or he simply stubbornly stood his ground even though he was wrong, and his answers contradicted themselves.
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[FONT=&amp]Let me cite you an example. At the Select Committee on Health Care Subsidy hearing on 12th August, BG George Yeo asked Chee Soon Juan: [/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]`I would like to ask Dr Chee whether he knows the difference between a time series in current dollars and a time series in 1985 dollars.'
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[FONT=&amp]Chee Soon Juan's answer was, "Yes." (This is in paragraph 1489 of the Minutes of Evidence.)
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[FONT=&amp]Then on 24th October this year, at the Committee of Privileges hearing, Mr Davinder Singh asked Chee:
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[FONT=&amp]`Dr Chee, you know the difference between a time series in current dollars and a time series in 1985 dollars?'
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[FONT=&amp]His answer this time was, "No, I do not." (This is in paragraph 674 of the Minutes of Evidence.)
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[FONT=&amp]When Mr Davinder Singh pointed out to him that he gave inconsistent answers to the same question asked on two separate occasions, he denied that the answers were inconsistent! With such direct evidence staring in his face, he continued to lie. In fact, it is a perjury before the Committee of Privileges since he was under oath.
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[FONT=&amp]So even when he was caught lying, committing perjury, he would flatly deny it. We can understand why a naughty and naive 4-year old boy would deny that he was stealing candy from a candy jar, even though he was caught red-handed by his mother with his hand still in the jar. In fact, if Members remember, and I think Dr Vasoo certainly remembers, when Chee Soon Juan was caught secretly taping a conversation he was having with Dr Vasoo, he flatly denied it, claiming that the tape recording was for his class, even though the tape recorder was still running and this part of the exchange was captured on tape. I managed to get a copy of that transcript from Dr Vasoo. Let me read this out. This was a conversation, I believe, which took place in 1992 before Dr Chee put himself up as a candidate of the SDP. I think he went to tell Dr Vasoo that he was going to be a candidate. So he held a tape recorder in his hand, probably outside the room, and said "testing, testing" to make sure that it worked. Then he went into the room and the process of telling Dr Vasoo what he wanted to do and Dr Vasoo's advice to him. And this is how it goes from the start of the conversation:
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[FONT=&amp]`Dr Chee: I've to give you my, I apply for visit passport. I was hoping, lah, see if I can apply or not. (Pause) No, I tell you Vasoo, I tell you, I came in basically because I hope. No, no, you listen to me, OK? Vasoo.
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[FONT=&amp]Dr Vasoo: You're taping that? [/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Dr Chee: What? [/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Dr Vasoo: Taping. [/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Dr Chee: Taping what? [/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Dr Vasoo: You're recording, is it? [/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Dr Chee: This is for my own, class one ah, what. Seriously, what a hell eh. No, I can tell you. OK, I'm sorry, I don't. Right now, there's no problem. I need to, I just basically want to say I don't want to.
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[FONT=&amp]Dr Vasoo: No, no, you see, it's turning or not.
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[FONT=&amp]Dr Chee: What? [/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Dr Vasoo: Recording.
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[FONT=&amp]Dr Chee: This is for my class one. What is that? No, no, wait, wait, wait, this is for my class one, listen, listen, Vasoo.'
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[FONT=&amp]I think we all find it very funny, but here is a man who really has no honour, no sense of decency, who went to have a conversation with his Head of Department. He secretly taped the conversation, either hoping to use it against him or for whatever reason. And yet when caught that he was tape recording the conversation, he completely denied it. But remember my story of the 4-year old boy. Dr Chee is not a naughty 4-year old boy. He is a grown man of 34 years old. He has a PhD. He claims to be a trained neuro-psychologist who treats patients and helps them with their brain and behavioural problems.
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[FONT=&amp]Sir, Dr Chee Soon Juan's propensity to speak the untruth knows no bounds. He does not seem to be a man of principle, honour or courage. You remember, in 1992, he also said, "I have a good brain and a strong heart" and that was what he wanted Singaporeans to believe him to be. A courageous man is not afraid of admitting his mistakes. It is no wonder that even his own SDP members and collaborators have been disappointed by his behaviour."""
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[FONT=&amp](Source: [/FONT][FONT=&amp]http://sprs.parl.gov.sg/search/topic.jsp…[/FONT][FONT=&amp] from Column 978)[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Tagging Away in No Particular Order: [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Singapore Democratic Party (SDP)[/FONT][FONT=&amp] Jaslyn Go [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Mohamed Jufrie Bin Mahmood[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Christopher Ang[/FONT][FONT=&amp] Jeffrey George [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Corinna Liang[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Yeo Poh Hong[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Clarence Ziting Zeng[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Chong W Fung[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Sng Choon Guan[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Chee Siok Chin[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Jufri Salim[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Ananth Tambyah[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]People's Action Party[/FONT][FONT=&amp]: Thank you for this entertainment.[/FONT]​

The only PAP 'B' Team Singaporeans witness past 20 years is SDP and Dr Chee.

Dr Chee broke up a perfectly growing SDP under Chiam See Tong and lost all 3 seats at GE1997 that was won at GE1991 under Chiam See Tong's SDP.

Now PAP once again wants to unleash the Kraken in CSJ to confuse and disrupt alternative parties progress from GE2011 by agreeing to give discount from $500,000 to $30,000 so that CSJ can take part in elections. Destructive, disruptive and history repeats itself.


 

eErotica69

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
haha, now the SDP clown want WP to give them NCMP seat, shame on you!

Exactly. Why SDP? WP got no more capable people other than their 6 MPs?

Why not give to Benjamin Pwee, he is anytime a better and competent fellow.

Give to Roy Ngerng also can. Or maybe to HHH or KJ?

How about giving to the 151 votes Ah Neh from India? He can represent the FT community
 
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