good reason why you should never help a christians .

[drifter]

That is ok.

thankyou for your big heart for forgiving me ...i really dont mean it . and i dont know your dad had passed away ....really im really very sorry .

 

[Baluku]

Dont worry about it.

Somehow you reminded me of my papa.

He was also a man of pride with regards to not believing in religion.

 

[drifter]

Dont worry about it.

Somehow you reminded me of my papa.

He was also a man of pride with regards to not believing in religion.

seriously , i dont understand why ppl will believe in any religion ...i try to talk to alot of christains , muslim , buddhist , taoist ...all never give me a good answer on that . all said the same think their religion is number 1 . when i try to talk sense with some religios ppl out there ..they start to run around in circle instead of giving me an answer .

 

[Baluku]

Many people have different needs for religion. There is no definite answers.

But for me, i seek God because after many years i am trying to find the meaning of life. Travelled and worked in many places but found no satisfaction and purpose in life.

I was also seeking to start a family and God helped me to find my lovely wife.

I am grateful for God's blessings and have a family with 2 lovely kids, living in a first world angmo country.

Time and time again this is how God worked in my life.

He answered my prayers. I am trying very hard to be a good person.

Not easy because the world is fraught with temptations and distractions.

That is why i said the world is all bullshit.

 

[drifter]

Many people have different needs for religion. There is no definite answers.

But for me, i seek God because after many years i am trying to find the meaning of life.

I was also seeking to start a family and God helped me to find my lovely wife.

I am grateful for God's blessings and have a family with 2 lovely kids, living in a first world angmo country.

Time and time again this is how God worked in my life.

dude , god dont help yo to find a wife ...you found her yourself ...you own nothing to god . i dont believe in god i still found a japanese wife and im staying in tokyo now . bro , i dont study much and my family is not rich at all ..but im having a comfortable life now in tokyo ...i dont need any god to get all that right ? you have 2 kids because of you and your wife . its because you work hard for what you are now ...nothing got to do with god .

 

[Baluku]

You need God to maintain a good relationship with your wife.

Without God is impossible. He is the head of the household.

Like the tip of a triangle. Both of you are at the edges at the base.

If you are closer to God, your relationship with your wife will be closer.

The amount of cash and cars or houses will not improve that.

I have a simple life. I dont come from a rich family. And i dont have to work really super hard to get to where i am. I am a take it easy guy.

God is responsible for everything including all the opportunities He has provided.

 

[drifter]

" Not easy because the world is fraught with temptations and distractions.That is why i said the world is all bullshit "

yes , i do agree with you on that . especially if you are doing biz ..theres many temptation to cheat customer without customer knowing it ..but everytime my greed come in , i will tell myself , no ...this is not the way to do biz , i will have a bad reput for my company ...that will stop me from cheating cstomers .

 

[drifter]

You need God to maintain a good relationship with your wife.

Without God is impossible. He is the head of the household.

Like the tip of a triangle. Both of you are at the edges at the base.

If you are closer to God, your relationship with your wife will be closer.

The amount of cash and cars or houses will not improve that.

I have a simple life. And i dont have to work really hard to get to where i am.

God is responsible for everything including all the opportunities He has provided.

why do you needed god to have a closer relationship with your wife ? i dont need it and tell you the truth , i dont know if you believe me anot , i have been married for 10 years but we never once fight . love between your wife is not abot god , its about how you treated each other .

 

[drifter]

by the way , i have seen alot of religious and non religious ppl getting divorce or having good or bad life ...it does not matter if you have religion or not ...the most important thing is treat ppl the way you wanted to be treated ...

 

[Baluku]

The problem is not everyone knows how to be a good husband and wife.

That is how you learn. From the bible. Attending the church. Learn from your church mates.

No offense meant but if you have never fought with your wife for 10 years. There is a serious problem with your marriage. It is an unhealthy marriage.

Once in a while fight can be good for a couple. It helps to bring you together closer.

Because you can understand more about each others. That is a normal relation.

I think you need to talk to your wife if she is happy with your marriage.

 

[drifter]

The problem is not everyone knows how to be a good husband and wife.

That is how you learn. From the bible. Attending the church. Learn from your church mates.

No offense meant but if you have never fought with your wife for 10 years. There is a serious problem with your marriage. It is an unhealthy marriage.

Once in a while fight can be good for a couple. It helps to bring you together closer.

Because you can understand more about each others. That is a normal relation.

I think you need to talk to your wife if she is happy with your marriage.

yes bro , alot of my friends also surprise that we dont fight and most of my close friends said the same thing as you ...i ever ask her why she agree with me all the things i wanted her to do or agree my thinking ...she told me because she trust me and im very good to her ...she keep on braging me infront of my own friends and her friends ...until i also peiseh ...really .

bro , you also can learn from your own friends how to be a good husband right ? dont really needed the bible . actucally its very easy to become a good husband ...if got any disagreement just sit down and have a good talk ...like what we are having now .

 

[Ash007]

Aiyah, why you all still like to play with the trolls?

Drifter, you might be interested in what Osho said about religion and religiousness. People having a religion, and being religious are separate things. Just because you have a religion, doesn't mean you adhere to what the religion preach. Very insightful once you read it.

http://www.oshonews.com/2011/03/religiousness-religion-osho/

“I PROMOTE RELIGIOUSNESS, NOT RELIGION,” SAYS OSHONews Articles — 23 March 2011
A BBC article entitled “Religion may become extinct in nine nations” has prompted Kul Bhushan to expand on the issue

A new study using census data from nine countries shows that religion there is set for extinction, according to the American Physical Society, reported by BBC on 22 March 2011. The results indicate that religion will all but die out altogether in those countries. The team took census data stretching back as far as a century from countries in which the census queried religious affiliation: Australia, Austria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Switzerland. A day later, on 23 March 2011, BBC World Service telecast a news item that the church in Finland was losing up to a thousand Christians every week (see links below).

The churches in Europe are mostly empty following two world wars. The peoples’ faith has been shaken, since they could not get solace and guidance from church leaders. Even so, the old system of collecting a tax for the churches continued and there was plenty of money. Since their congregations were dwindling, the churches directed these funds to Africa, Asia and Latin America to promote Christianity.

During the last thirty years, many people have objected to paying this tax and stopped paying it, despite threats from the church that they would not get their birth, marriage and death certificates and other services. In the last decade, scandals, especially child sex abuse, have further rocked the church. More and more people are discovering new ways of relating to their consciousness through meditation, yoga, Buddhism and other ‘new age’ spiritual paths. So it is no wonder that churches are losing a thousand followers every week in Finland and a new study projects that religion will die out in nine European countries.

This fading away of religion is exactly what Osho envisioned many decades ago when he said, ”In the future, a few things will disappear. Nations will have to disappear because the earth has become a small village; now they are meaningless. And the second thing to disappear with the nations is Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, Judaism.“

What will replace religion? Religiousness, says Osho, “You have to understand what I mean by religiousness: by religiousness I mean a gratitude towards existence. It has given so much to you, and you cannot pay it back.”

“Man has not been allowed total access to his being. One has to be just a Muslim – a very narrow thing. One has to be just a Hindu – just a very narrow thing. Why? When you can have the whole heritage? When the whole past is yours and the whole future is yours, why should you divide? Why should I call myself ‘a Hindu or a Muslim or a Christian?’ One should claim the total. By claiming the total you become total: you lose all narrow divisions, distinctions, you become whole. You become holy. That is going to happen, that is bound to happen. That HAS to happen. Otherwise man will not be able to grow any more,” says Osho in Tao: The Pathless Path, Vol. 1,Ch. 10.

He adds, “This is very crucial that man has to drop all barriers, of nation and religion and church. That’s what I am doing here: trying to bring together all the fragrances released in different centuries by differing flowerings of human consciousness. Lao Tzu is a flower, so is Buddha, so is Jesus, so is Mohammed, but now we have to melt all their fragrances into one – a universal fragrance. Then, for the first time, man will be able to be religious and yet undivided. Then the church is yours and the mosque too and the temple too. Then the Gita is yours, and the Koran and the Vedas and the Bible – everything is yours. You become vast.”

 

[drifter]

Aiyah, why you all still like to play with the trolls?

Drifter, you might be interested in what Osho said about religion and religiousness. People having a religion, and being religious are separate things. Just because you have a religion, doesn't mean you adhere to what the religion preach. Very insightful once you read it.

http://www.oshonews.com/2011/03/religiousness-religion-osho/

yes bro , i know its separate things. with or without religion ppl can do bad things . and good things also happen to religion and non religion ppl . im just trying to explain to baluku .

 

[drifter]

believing in so many religion will become siao leh ... ahahahaha

 

[Ash007]

I think what he is saying, and what Osho is saying, religious text,scripts, can be used as a guide. Some people don't have the "karma", instinct, to understand it without a religious context. Hence the church, temples, mosque provides a place or "study".

As for you not fighting with your wife, 不打不相识，you don't know someone till you fight them. I find this phrase very true as I journey through life. Perhaps, you are just lucky that you haven't have to fight with her yet.

yes bro , i know its separate things. with or without religion ppl can do bad things . and good things also happen to religion and non religion ppl . im just trying to explain to baluku .

 

[drifter]

I think what he is saying, and what Osho is saying, religious text,scripts, can be used as a guide. Some people don't have the "karma", instinct, to understand it without a religious context. Hence the church, temples, mosque provides a place or "study".

As for you not fighting with your wife, 不打不相识，you don't know someone till you fight them. I find this phrase very true as I journey through life. Perhaps, you are just lucky that you haven't have to fight with her yet.

thanks for pointing out the meaning in osho . i overlook it . sorry . yes alot of my friends also tell me if i fight with my wife one day sure something big going to happens ( my friends even told me maybe fight until kill each other ) ....i really dont know . so when the times come then i know ..

 

[Ash007]

I never said, believe, but study. The major religious text have been around for a very long time for a good reason. My wife, a Christian, used to say how do I know about so many quotes from the bible? I mentioned I also know many from the koran as well. I've even talked to muslims about how the koran mentioned about eating pork being "spiritually" dirty but not physically dirty. With references in the Koran and bible. She said, she fears where I'll be when I die, since I know so many "Gods". I said, how do you know we won't just rot in the earth? I've also recently formulated a theory on the creation of the universe and how one day "god" will use his dyson vacuum and suck everything up.

believing in so many religion will become siao leh ... ahahahaha

 

[drifter]

I never said, believe, but study. The major religious text have been around for a very long time for a good reason. My wife, a Christian, used to say how do I know about so many quotes from the bible? I mentioned I also know many from the koran as well. I've even talked to muslims about how the koran mentioned about eating pork being "spiritually" dirty but not physically dirty. With references in the Koran and bible. She said, she fears where I'll be when I die, since I know so many "Gods". I said, how do you know we won't just rot in the earth? I've also recently formulated a theory on the creation of the universe and how one day "god" will use his dyson vacuum and suck everything up.

actucally dont need to study and religious stuff to make you a better person ..its just common sense . treat others how you like to be treated it is that simple .

your wife never convert you to be a christains ? you are a very lucky man . most of my friends kenna converted by their husband or wife . one of them a chinese even converted to muslim cause wife is a malay .

 

[Ash007]

Many times bro, I'm lucky she isn't really a die-hard Christian like some of the trolls here. Your friend can have 3 more wives then? I used to joke with my wife, if not for circumcision, I might consider converting to Islam to have my four wives.

actucally dont need to study and religious stuff to make you a better person ..its just common sense . treat others how you like to be treated it is that simple .

your wife never convert you to be a christains ? you are a very lucky man . most of my friends kenna converted by their husband or wife . one of them a chinese even converted to muslim cause wife is a malay .

 

[drifter]

Many times bro, I'm lucky she isn't really a die-hard Christian like some of the trolls here. Your friend can have 3 more wives then? I used to joke with my wife, if not for circumcision, I might consider converting to Islam to have my four wives.

hahaha 4 wife ? you are really lucky she is not a die hard christian . tell you one joke . my mother only speaks chinese and hokkien but my dad only speak english and hokkien and they communicate in hokkien ( its true )