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Dr Chee fires 2nd salvo at MM LEE

Queen Seok Duk

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HURSDAY, 07 OCTOBER 2010
Singapore Democrats

Mr Lee Kuan Yew
Minister Mentor

Dear Mr Lee,

As you grieve over the loss of Mdm Kwa Geok Choo, many Singaporeans grieve with you. Everytime someone dear to us passes away, the pain is deep. Losing a loved one is the cruelest act that life can inflict on humans.

Even as you mourn the loss of Mdm Kwa, I am certain that you think of the happier moments that the both of you shared and that you, of all the people in this world, were the one to have had the pleasure of spending a lifetime with her. That, at least, is to be celebrated.

But while you had Mdm Kwa on whom you cultivated your affection, there were others who were deprived of that very same joy. They were not separated from their loved ones by that surly grasp of death, but by political power with which you wielded, and wielded so ruthlessly and unjustly.

You had Mr Chia Thye Poh locked up for most of his adult life. He was incarcerated when he was only 25 and regained his freedom only when he turned 57. Even Nelson Mandela spent less years under detention. The best years of Mr Chia's life was so inhumanely taken away. He had a girlfriend who could not wait for him and who left him when he was still in prison.

Dr Lim Hock Siew married Dr Beatrice Chia. When I met them recently, I saw the love - unspoken but abiding - that they had for each other despite the fact that you had kept them apart for 20 years.

Then there is Mr Said Zahari whom you also imprisoned for years, 17 years to be exact. He spoke lovingly of his late wife, Salamah, whom he adored. She faithfully and lovingly tended home while waiting for her soulmate to return and to hold her and to talk with her. She struggled with their four children, running a foodstall to eke out a living while Said languished in prison. Their children often had no money to go to school.

To this day, he asks for God's forgiveness for breaking the oath he made with Salamah to be together when they married each other. When she died in 2004, his heart must have broken into a thousand pieces, just like yours is breaking into a thousand pieces.

While you loved your wife, they loved theirs too.

There are scores of others who cannot be reunited with their families because you have made it so. Ms Tang Fong Har, who was detained in 1987 and who subsequently fled to Hong Kong, has been wanting to return to Singapore to see her ailing mother. But she cannot because there is still the threat of her being re-arrested if she returns.

Others like Mr Tang Liang Hong are also separated from their families because they cannot return to Singapore without facing incarceration.

I, too, have family. My wife wishes for me to return to Taiwan with her to be with her family. I cannot fulfill that obligation because you have made it so. I did go to Taiwan last year, but only to attend my father-in-law's funeral. He had asked about me before he died but by the time I got to his bedside after I managed to get the Official Assignee's approval to leave the country, he had lost consciousness. I never got to say goodbye.

It pains me to think that the only time I can be with my wife and children in Taiwan is when someone in the family dies.

You have taken away much of what I have but despite all that you have done to me and mine, I bear you no ill-will. As I said to you during our trial in 2008, you are an intelligent man, I only hope that you will become a wise one. I meant it then and I mean it now. Love and the relationships we have with family and friends are what matter most. Riches and power mean little when those dearest to us leave us.

I extend to you my deepest sympathies on the demise of Mdm Kwa. I want to express my condolence in the sincerest manner I know how. While I commiserate with you on your loss, I would be remiss if I did not take this opportuinity to tell you, if you don't already know, how much pain you have inflicted on your political opponents and whose families you have torn apart, the same kind of pain that you presently feel.

In the remaining time while you still walk this earth with us, turn from your ways. Free yourself from the prison of wealth and power that keeps you from cherishing that most precious of life's qualities - humanity. It is still not too late.

Sincerely,

Chee Soon Juan
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Tristan

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Wow, that is some read. My heart goes out to all those who have suffered under the hands of the devil. Their crime: They did not share the Devil's views.
 

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This Dr Chee is damn sick. Using this sad moment to try to score political points for himself. All his bullshit about feeling the pain and expressing his sincereity, he is just rubbing salt on wounds. I have absolutely no respect for this man.
 

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This Dr Chee is damn sick. Using this sad moment to try to score political points for himself. All his bullshit about feeling the pain and expressing his sincereity, he is just rubbing salt on wounds. I have absolutely no respect for this man.

Of course you have more respect for the old bastard. I read today that the old bastard actually said that the Japanese Occupation were the best days of his life. While the whole of Singapore were largely starving, being tortured, killed and murdered and ruled by a heinous foreign army, this bastard actually had the time of his life as an interpreter for the dreaded kempetei! :oIo:
 

dariobadis

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This Dr Chee is damn sick. Using this sad moment to try to score political points for himself. All his bullshit about feeling the pain and expressing his sincereity, he is just rubbing salt on wounds. I have absolutely no respect for this man.

Bro if what Dr Chee said is true, i think this shld be a gd time for him to point it out when the pain is there. Have you the letter LHL write to CJ's son?
 

DollarsNoSense

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there is no political points for him to score anymore. its just politician bashing politician, there is no sincerity in them all :-)


This Dr Chee is damn sick. Using this sad moment to try to score political points for himself. All his bullshit about feeling the pain and expressing his sincereity, he is just rubbing salt on wounds. I have absolutely no respect for this man.
 

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Of course you have more respect for the old bastard. I read today that the old bastard actually said that the Japanese Occupation were the best days of his life. While the whole of Singapore were largely starving, being tortured, killed and murdered and ruled by a heinous foreign army, this bastard actually had the time of his life as an interpreter for the dreaded kempetei! :oIo:

I do not think LKY is a saint. There are things he did that I don't agree. There are things he do that I think is the right thing to do. And as a whole, I think he has done more good than bad for Singaporeans. Sometimes, one has to take tough and hard decisions for that will benefit the majority and impact a small group. No choice, there is no perfect solution in many cases. But comparing to other small countries, I honestly think Singapore is better off than them. We cannot be the best small countries that everyone is happy, but we are among the better ones where the majority is living OK. We are safe, have simple food on the table and roof above our heads. Life is tougher no doubt, but the same thing is happening in many parts of the world.
 
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Tristan

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I do not think LKY is a saint. There are things he did that I don't agree. There are things he do that I think is the right thing to do. And as a whole, I think he has done more good than bad for Singaporeans. Sometimes, one has to take tough and hard decisions for that will benefit the majority and impact a small group. No choice, there is no perfect solution in many cases.

So did Robert Mugabe, Kim Jong Il and the host of dictators througout history.
 

dariobadis

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I do not think LKY is a saint. There are things he did that I don't agree. There are things he do that I think is the right thing to do. And as a whole, I think he has done more good and bad for Singaporeans. Sometimes, one has to take tough and hard decisions for that will benefit the majority and impact a small group. No choice, there is no perfect solution in many cases. But comparing to other small countries, I honestly think Singapore is better off than them. We cannot be the best small countries that everyone is happy, but we are among the better ones where the majority is living OK. We are safe, have simple food on the table and roof above our heads. Life is tougher no doubt, but the same thing is happening in many parts of the world.

Bro i agree that Singapore is a safe country to live in. But who benefits most from it? The people? U r wrong, it's the Government and the person who control it. Do you think by increasing the Hdb pricing, setting up the ERP , having the COE system , importing so many FT ( not the construction workers ) help the citizens in Singapore? Yes some hard decisions have to be made but not the above.
 

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this dr chee is damn sick. Using this sad moment to try to score political points for himself. All his bullshit about feeling the pain and expressing his sincereity, he is just rubbing salt on wounds. I have absolutely no respect for this man.

agreed and well said.
 

lockeliberal

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Dear Dr Chee

I am absolutely disgusted by both letters thus far sent by the SDP and the Young Democrats. In so much as I am sickened by some of the fawning ass licking comments made by people. aka " Heaven would on Earth ' Kwa, I nevertheless retain enough semblance of human decency and kindness to let the dead stay dead and to allow the living room and respite to grieve and mourn.

I am no fan of LKY, I respect him for what he has done in the past but I believe that he should have been put out to garden in the Istana many ions ago, his enduring presence is unhealthy for Singapore , the next generation and its future.

Similarly in so much as I do not really care for the past and what LKY has done I being a selfish voter and citizen only cares about what the PAP can do or deliver for me in the future. I likewise do not give a rats ass what LKY has done to you your family your pet dog and any other no of oppositions who have banged heads with him and lost, I only care about what you the opposition can do for me today and tomorrow here in Holland Bukit Panjang.

You will have my vote or for that matter any donkey under any banner that stands against the PAP such is my dislike and distaste for them It does not however change my disgust at your absolute lack of human decency as you gloat at the pain of a man who dearly loved his wife and as you revel, and rejoice in his suffering.

He may have blood on his hands, He may have wronged many but I as an individual nevertheless would state , let history write his epitah , let history write its judgement but if a man grieves for the women he loves, let the man and the family grieve in peace.



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xyhan

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And as a whole, I think he has done more good than bad for Singaporeans. Sometimes, one has to take tough and hard decisions for that will benefit the majority and impact a small group. No choice, there is no perfect solution in many cases. But comparing to other small countries, I honestly think Singapore is better off than them. We cannot be the best small countries that everyone is happy, but we are among the better ones where the majority is living OK. We are safe, have simple food on the table and roof above our heads. Life is tougher no doubt, but the same thing is happening in many parts of the world.

I totally agree with your thoughts.

Well thought and said.

Cheers
 
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May I add so were Saddam Hussein, Suharto, Chen Sui Bian, Marcos, Mao Tse Tung, Stalin, Hitler, Thaksin, etc, etc, ect.

When Chen Sui Bian was charged and imprisoned for corruption and nepotism, there was a massive protest by Chen Sui Bian supporters who demanded justice as Chen's sentence was 'politically motivated', according to his arse-lickers.:biggrin::rolleyes:
 

hairylee

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This Dr Chee is damn sick. Using this sad moment to try to score political points for himself. All his bullshit about feeling the pain and expressing his sincereity, he is just rubbing salt on wounds. I have absolutely no respect for this man.

Fuck you bastard!
 
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redlightmeansgo

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This letter by Chee needs a wider readership; it needs to reach especially the men and women who formed the unnecessary cortege that sent off the hearse.

Is there any way to give it greater circulation?
 

soikee

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Dear Dr Chee

I am absolutely disgusted by both letters thus far sent by the SDP and the Young Democrats. In so much as I am sickened by some of the fawning ass licking comments made by people. aka " Heaven would on Earth ' Kwa, I nevertheless retain enough semblance of human decency and kindness to let the dead stay dead and to allow the living room and respite to grieve and mourn.

I am no fan of LKY, I respect him for what he has done in the past but I believe that he should have been put out to garden in the Istana many ions ago, his enduring presence is unhealthy for Singapore , the next generation and its future.

Similarly in so much as I do not really care for the past and what LKY has done I being a selfish voter and citizen only cares about what the PAP can do or deliver for me in the future. I likewise do not give a rats ass what LKY has done to you your family your pet dog and any other no of oppositions who have banged heads with him and lost, I only care about what you the opposition can do for me today and tomorrow here in Holland Bukit Panjang.

You will have my vote or for that matter any donkey under any banner that stands against the PAP such is my dislike and distaste for them It does not however change my disgust at your absolute lack of human decency as you gloat at the pain of a man who dearly loved his wife and as you revel, and rejoice in his suffering.

He may have blood on his hands, He may have wronged many but I as an individual nevertheless would state , let history write his epitah , let history write its judgement but if a man grieves for the women he loves, let the man and the family grieve in peace.



Locke

It's perfectly correct the way Chee wrote to this ruthless and power crazy old bastard!

He so blardy well deserves it!

During the last 5 days of circus show, I only feel sorry for HY and the two children of the
late Mi*g Yang who was driven to suicide; needless to say by whom.
 
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