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The Quran and Hadith teach about expanding Islam using violence

Likemeat

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Muslims claim human morality comes from islam, why islam cannot stand on its own feet? Why islamic morality needs to be dependent to another religion?

Do you mean another religion kills, so it is ok for islam? You are behaving like a kid talking back to his mum "why you score me, our neighbour's son also doing the same?".

How many times must we keep repeating? You in a dementia state ya. One more time ah neh. We are commanded to fight back as an act of self defence.
 

k1976

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Of course i dont expect all my 10 students to be economists. Majority or 9 of them acheived good results good enough. That means i am a good teacher.

You tell me how many people have been killed as a result of Christianity/Atheism expansion?
People die everyday does not justify any killing of innocent people
 

JohnTan

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How many times must we keep repeating? You in a dementia state ya. One more time ah neh. We are commanded to fight back as an act of self defence.

Most of the time, it's moslems who initiate conflict or riots or communal strife. moslems start fights and then call it as 'self defense'.
 

duluxe

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How many times must we keep repeating? You in a dementia state ya. One more time ah neh. We are commanded to fight back as an act of self defence.

Islam is in self defence all the times? Then how islam expanded territories in history?
 

syed putra

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The caliphate system is more democratic than you can imagine. There is no generational transfer in the family but the best amongst them gets appointed by the rest. In fact historically, people have refused to become the caliph because of the great responsibility and answerable to Allah.
It is not autocratic nor tyranny.
Prophet yusof served a non caliphate leader. But he was honest, righteous and just.
 

duluxe

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Isn't 2:217 self explanatory?
Ho would you defence off there was a lot of unclaimed loot sitting around?

@Loofydralb you are unable to answer 1st and 2nd verses, let move on to discuss the 3rd verse.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').


@Loofydralb please explain the phrase "We cast terror into the hearts of unbelievers"? How is casting terror related to peacefulness?
 

duluxe

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For the last 200 years, who started the biggest wars?
Christians.​

For the last 200 years, christian countries have successfully delinked religion from state. Not on paper but in execution.

You are arguing like a kid talking back to his mum "why you score me, our neighbour's son is 10 times worst?".
 

Loofydralb

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@Loofydralb you are unable to answer 1st and 2nd verses, let move on to discuss the 3rd verse.
I did answer it. Too bad you were unable to accept it.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').


@Loofydralb please explain the phrase "We cast terror into the hearts of unbelievers"? How is casting terror related to peacefulness?
This is a better translation of 3:151
"We will cast horror into the hearts of the disbelievers for associating ˹false gods˺ with Allah—a practice He has never authorized. The Fire will be their home—what an evil place for the wrongdoers to stay!"

Nothing wrong with casting horror upon disbelievers, pagans and polytheists.
When we present to christians how their lie of worshipping 3 gods, christians get horrified we exposed their polytheistic beliefs.
When we remind unbelievers and KAFIRS they will end up in eternal fire, they're horrified.
This verse is absolutely correct.
 

JohnTan

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For the last 200 years, who started the biggest wars?
Christians.

Your moslem ottoman caliph was main combatant in WW1. That's one of the biggest wars. In WW2, your moslem mufti of jerusalem could only be a hitler cocksucker because moslems were militarily weak. Good ol' days of Timurlane or mehmet over.
 

duluxe

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I did answer it. Too bad you were unable to accept it.

Nope you did not answer to my legitimate question on why " there was a lot of unclaimed loot sitting around?"

Why there was loot?

Another related question: raiding merchant caravans for loot was sanctioned by allah?
 

JohnTan

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When we present to christians how their lie of worshipping 3 gods, christians get horrified we exposed their polytheistic beliefs.

Didn't you once admit that there's no verse in the Bible regarding '3 gods' ?

In contrast, there's enough verses in any qurans to show your arabian god resorting to polytheism to inflate his self worth. A single god calling himself as "We" instead of "I'. None of your retarded "royal we" shit.
 

Loofydralb

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Your moslem ottoman caliph was main combatant in WW1. That's one of the biggest wars. In WW2, your moslem mufti of jerusalem could only be a hitler cocksucker because moslems were militarily weak. Good ol' days of Timurlane or mehmet over.
Again comprehension problem. What was the question I asked?
 

Loofydralb

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Nope you did not answer to my legitimate question on why " there was a lot of unclaimed loot sitting around?"

Why there was loot?

Another related question: raiding merchant caravans for loot was sanctioned by allah?
Those verses you quoted has no mention of any loot.
 

Loofydralb

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Didn't you once admit that there's no verse in the Bible regarding '3 gods' ?
Right. Then why you say father, Jesus and holy ghost are Gods?

In contrast, there's enough verses in any qurans to show your arabian god resorting to polytheism to inflate his self worth. A single god calling himself as "We" instead of "I'. None of your retarded "royal we" shit.
Show me one verse.

Even Kings use "We". It's the majesty of the singular, you idiot
 

Likemeat

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Islam is in self defence all the times? Then how islam expanded territories in history?

Thought told you already? Your dementia getting worst by the day. The prophet was commanded to spread the message of Islam by Allah swt. But often than not it was met with violence by non Muslims. So Muslims had to defend themselves. How Muslims grew @2 billion is thru doing business and inter marriages with non Muslims.
 

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Likemeat

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Most of the time, it's moslems who initiate conflict or riots or communal strife. moslems start fights and then call it as 'self defense'.

As i am typing now, USA, IsraHell is still commiting violence and killing murdering innocents in Syria. Till today Iraq still facing war after US illegal invasion. Not forgetting invasion of Afghan. Killing thousands of innocents women and children
 
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