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PTADER

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Well, I can see that no amount of learning can cure your stupidity. Being a retired academic,or so you claimed, and yet couldn't read what I wrote.

Don't argue for the sake of arguing. You don't even realise the implications of what you wrote and yet again, repeat in the second paragraph of this latest post of yours. Read through your postings again and don't expect me to spoonfeed you again by having to show and explain to you what you yourself wrote.

It's all fine and dandy playing superhero by bashing the faith of others. Have a good look at your pathetic self in the mirror. Look at those daft eyes of yours. Look at the colour of your hair. Have a good look at the colour of your skin. Do you look like a white man??? As a Chinese living in this part of the world, you don't have to stupidly parrot and monkey the white man by engaging in Muslim bashing like that incredibly dumb Chinese cunt who thinks he is safe because he is living in the US.


Also, about the crusades, learn about the true history of the Crusades. This is research done by Bill Warner who holds a PhD in physics and math, NC State University. He talks about facts and not some half fuck shit that you spew.

Good to know that you have finally learn to use google. Try to take your game to the next level by finding someone whose expertise is relevant in the field they are engaging in.

Get back to me when you have your thoughts sorted out, when you have something meaningful to say and are able to state what you have to say or intend to say a little more coherently, logically or intelligently. I am happy to respond to you if you can meet the deliberately low benchmark I have set for you, i.e. meeting just one of the three criteria I have set for you.
 

Devil Within

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Don't argue for the sake of arguing. You don't even realise the implications of what you wrote and yet again, repeat in the second paragraph of this latest post of yours. Read through your postings again and don't expect me to spoonfeed you again by having to show and explain to you what you yourself wrote.

It's all fine and dandy playing superhero by bashing the faith of others. Have a good look at your pathetic self in the mirror. Look at those daft eyes of yours. Look at the colour of your hair. Have a good look at the colour of your skin. Do you look like a white man??? As a Chinese living in this part of the world, you don't have to stupidly parrot and monkey the white man by engaging in Muslim bashing like that incredibly dumb Chinese cunt who thinks he is safe because he is living in the US.

Good to know that you have finally learn to use google. Try to take your game to the next level by finding someone whose expertise is relevant in the field they are engaging in.

Get back to me when you have your thoughts sorted out, when you have something meaningful to say and are able to state what you have to say or intend to say a little more coherently, logically or intelligently. I am happy to respond to you if you can meet the deliberately low benchmark I have set for you, i.e. meeting just one of the three criteria I have set for you.


Like I've said, your stupidity is really showing. I've asked you to show me where did I say I respect any of those fuck religion that you mentioned and you go blabbing about how retarded you are.
I am not super hero, maybe that's what your beliefs are, superhero and fairy tales. I just like to showcase your stupidity for all to see here.

Even by your own admission that Islam is so toxic and dangerous. Since you are a fucking retard, Uncle Devil here will spoon feed you.
... who thinks he is safe because he is living in the US.

I think the real cunt is you who got no fucking balls to lay out the facts about the murderous Islamic religion. At least, he got the balls to do so. Even though, like you say, he think he is safe in US but we all know how fucking dangerous murderous Islam is.


Even with google you don't even know how to find the truth about crusade and need Uncle Devil here to spoon feed you again. You are one fucking stupid cunt. Now that I've showed you, instead of thanking Uncle here for educating retarded fuckwits like you, you try to sidestep this and claim victory? LOL....

You are really one fucking retarded old fuckwit!
 
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PTADER

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Re: Delete this thread mod.

Should start with getting rid of Tonychat who proclaimed that Alvin Tan is the best.

This dumbfuck and those of his ilk like to and want to stir shit, spout shit and watch the drama unfold. Those who have to live with the consequences of the disrespectful and incendiary actions of these pathetic dumbfucks know better.

That is why you will soon see the Malaysian Chinese, MCA, Gerakan and even DAP condemning this dumb Chinese cunt when his rubbish goes viral because Chinese culture and Confucian teachings have never been about disrespect, crude and crass behaviour as exhibited by this dumb cunt and the half-fucked Chinese pseudo whites in this forum given to parroting and apeingthe white man constant demonising of Islam.

The Malaysian Chinese know what is at stake and know that what this dumb fuck has done has breached all limits of propriety, decency and respect.
 

tonychat

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This dumbfuck and those of his ilk like to and want to stir shit, spout shit and watch the drama unfold. Those who have to live with the consequences of the disrespectful and incendiary actions of these pathetic dumbfucks know better.

That is why you will soon see the Malaysian Chinese, MCA, Gerakan and even DAP condemning this dumb Chinese cunt when his rubbish goes viral because Chinese culture and Confucian teachings have never been about disrespect, crude and crass behaviour as exhibited by this dumb cunt and the half-fucked Chinese pseudo whites in this forum given to parroting and apeingthe white man constant demonising of Islam.

The Malaysian Chinese know what is at stake and know that what this dumb fuck has done has breached all limits of propriety, decency and respect.

Fuck your bullshit respect.. Why losers like you demand respect this and that.. I thought respect had to be earned and not demanded?

Where the hell did you get this type of low life upbringing and education from?
 

Devil Within

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Re: Delete this thread mod.

This dumbfuck and those of his ilk like to and want to stir shit, spout shit and watch the drama unfold. Those who have to live with the consequences of the disrespectful and incendiary actions of these pathetic dumbfucks know better.

That is why you will soon see the Malaysian Chinese, MCA, Gerakan and even DAP condemning this dumb Chinese cunt when his rubbish goes viral because Chinese culture and Confucian teachings have never been about disrespect, crude and crass behaviour as exhibited by this dumb cunt and the half-fucked Chinese pseudo whites in this forum given to parroting and apeingthe white man constant demonising of Islam.

The Malaysian Chinese know what is at stake and know that what this dumb fuck has done has breached all limits of propriety, decency and respect.

Hey, fucking retard! So you are saying that it is okay to kill and even murder if shown disrespectful?

Now we know you really are a fucking retard! LOL!...

Even if one is shown disrespect, there is NO EXCUSE for killing or murder.

Also, "respect" is an opinion. What I find respectful may not be respectful for another. But I doubt fucking retard like you can understand this.

Let Uncle Devil here to spoon feed you again. I know how stupid you are.

Mao in China is greatly respected in Communist China. But there are critics of Mao outside of China and even called him a retard for causing millions of death in China.

kim jong un, the current leader of North Korea is respected and worshipped like god status in North Korea, but he is ridiculed by some for causing poor Children in N.Korea starvation even now. So you are not allowed to say shits about these leaders because millions in China and N.Korea respect them even now?

Hitler was very well respected by the Nazi and even now with Nazism group. So in order to show respect to their belief and respect their admiration we cannot criticise their leaders' folly? We are not allow to tell the truth and tell it like it is?

You are one fucking retard! I can see that all your years of education is wasted.
 
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ChaoPappyPoodle

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It's all fine and dandy playing superhero by bashing the faith of others. Have a good look at your pathetic self in the mirror. Look at those daft eyes of yours. Look at the colour of your hair. Have a good look at the colour of your skin. Do you look like a white man??? As a Chinese living in this part of the world, you don't have to stupidly parrot and monkey the white man by engaging in Muslim bashing like that incredibly dumb Chinese cunt who thinks he is safe because he is living in the US.

You fucking bastard goat fucking Satanic worshiper have a lot of nerve to talk about others. Your mother cheebye is Arab goat is it? You fucking idiots can't even read Arab but want to pretend you are one. Fucking bastard! China has had its fair share of you goat fuckers for far too long as it is. South East Asia suffered even more and it looks like we are heading for a round two. You bastards always blame everyone for your crimes and sins. Fucking useless bastards!

Not everyone is as stupid as you goat fuckers to believe in the words of a self-professed prophet who went around proclaiming to be a postman from god but was raping young girls and women, collecting wives and sex slaves as a hobby, beheading, torturing, terrorizing, looting, committing piracy and the best part of all is fucking his own daughter in law and first cousin! Only a full blooded moron would believe in the words of such a sickening and sinful being. But you goat fuckers are really something else when it comes to stupidity.:*:



http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/muhammad/myths-mu-home.htm
http://knowing-islamic-doctrines.blogspot.sg/2012/04/prophets-marriage-to-his-daughter-in.html
 

ChaoPappyPoodle

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I agree with my fellow abangs,this idiot is going to end up like salman rushdie if he doesnt watch what hes doing.u dunno the power of a fatwa on ur head until u truly experienced it,not even the CIA or FBi can save you.they can only protect u so long but they are just protecting a dead man walking.when allah is done with him,he will never touch pork for the rest of his life and he will be a well raped piggy like those men from deliverance who wandered into a village of hillbillies and rednecks incest gaysex.

Gay as in wearing makeup like Muhammad? Gay as in tongue kissing young boys like Muhammad? You dirty bastards belong to a crime syndicate. Don't pretend to pray like a camel when inside you bastards think of raping, enslaving, torturing, and looting other people's property. Fucking bunch of inbred thieves!

Islam is not a religion but an ideology that aims for world domination through violence by promoting wars, allowing of slavery and looting. To compound these barbaric ideas, an afterlife filled with more sexual lusts and other worldly greed is promised to its followers. There is nothing more disgusing than man killing and enslaving fellow man but when the rewards for doing so are laid out as plainly and as dastardly as Islam has then we need to question this ideology and each and everyone that adheres to this demonic ideology.

One cannot honestly be truthful to talk about religion while at the same time one espouses to murder his fellow man, rape women and children and enslave others. Use the links below to educate yourselves and others.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.historyofjihad.org/albania.html?syf=contact
https://www.facebook.com/notes/know...mads-massacres-and-sex-slaves/523705024374034
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/AbulKasem51209p4.htm
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.sg/201...howComment=1420174166530#c5904662748747946010
http://freearabs.com/
http://www.arabatheistbroadcasting.com/program/magazine
 

spotter542

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You fucking bastard goat fucking Satanic worshiper have a lot of nerve to talk about others. Your mother cheebye is Arab goat is it? You fucking idiots can't even read Arab but want to pretend you are one. Fucking bastard! China has had its fair share of you goat fuckers for far too long as it is. South East Asia suffered even more and it looks like we are heading for a round two. You bastards always blame everyone for your crimes and sins. Fucking useless bastards!

Not everyone is as stupid as you goat fuckers to believe in the words of a self-professed prophet who went around proclaiming to be a postman from god but was raping young girls and women, collecting wives and sex slaves as a hobby, beheading, torturing, terrorizing, looting, committing piracy and the best part of all is fucking his own daughter in law and first cousin! Only a full blooded moron would believe in the words of such a sickening and sinful being. But you goat fuckers are really something else when it comes to stupidity.:*:



http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/muhammad/myths-mu-home.htm
http://knowing-islamic-doctrines.blogspot.sg/2012/04/prophets-marriage-to-his-daughter-in.html


Thank you for spoon feeding me , I admit I am a Google idiot :p
Didn't realize these barbaric people virtually fucking anything that moves :eek:
I won't be surprised if they fuck camels too :biggrin:


 

PTADER

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You fucking bastard goat fucking Satanic worshiper have a lot of nerve to talk about others. Your mother cheebye is Arab goat is it? You fucking idiots can't even read Arab but want to pretend you are one. Fucking bastard! China has had its fair share of you goat fuckers for far too long as it is. South East Asia suffered even more and it looks like we are heading for a round two. You bastards always blame everyone for your crimes and sins. Fucking useless bastards!

Not everyone is as stupid as you goat fuckers to believe in the words of a self-professed prophet who went around proclaiming to be a postman from god but was raping young girls and women, collecting wives and sex slaves as a hobby, beheading, torturing, terrorizing, looting, committing piracy and the best part of all is fucking his own daughter in law and first cousin! Only a full blooded moron would believe in the words of such a sickening and sinful being. But you goat fuckers are really something else when it comes to stupidity.:*:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/muhammad/myths-mu-home.htm
http://knowing-islamic-doctrines.blogspot.sg/2012/04/prophets-marriage-to-his-daughter-in.html

Yet another half baked Chinese White-wannabe regurgitating and apeing the white's constant demonising of Islam. Chinese but can't accept Chinese culture and Confucian norms of civilised behaviour and conduct but instead, wants to unthinkingly parrot and ape the white man and behave like a white trash. Go have a look at yourself in the mirror. Educate yourself. See what the whites have to say about Chinese like you and stop parroting and apeing them.

BTW, people, like me, who speak up in defence of Islam does not make us Muslims. Ditto for the person who stated this:

“Faced with disconcerting episodes of violent fundamentalism, our respect for true followers of Islam should lead us to avoid hateful generalizations, for authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Quran are opposed to every form of violence.”​

That's why this man is the leader of 1.2 billion followers of a non-Islamic religion. And that's why you and your ilk are losers in life given to spouting shit and whingeing about everything from "Ah Tiongs" to "Shitskins" to "Muslims" in a Sammyboy.com forum.

I attribute behaviour and conduct such as yours and your ilk to poor education and poor upbringing.
 

ChaoPappyPoodle

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Yet another half baked Chinese White-wannabe regurgitating and apeing the white's constant demonising of Islam. Chinese but can't accept Chinese culture and Confucian norms of civilised behaviour and conduct but instead, wants to unthinkingly parrot and ape the white man and behave like a white trash. Go have a look at yourself in the mirror. Educate yourself. See what the whites have to say about Chinese like you and stop parroting and apeing them.

BTW, people, like me, who speak up in defence of Islam does not make us Muslims. Ditto for the person who stated this:

“Faced with disconcerting episodes of violent fundamentalism, our respect for true followers of Islam should lead us to avoid hateful generalizations, for authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Quran are opposed to every form of violence.”​

That's why this man is the leader of 1.2 billion followers of a non-Islamic religion. And that's why you and your ilk are losers in life given to spouting shit and whingeing about everything from "Ah Tiongs" to "Shitskins" to "Muslims" in a Sammyboy.com forum.

I attribute behaviour and conduct such as yours and your ilk to poor education and poor upbringing.

You stupid fucking bastard retard! The whole world finds Islamic ideology vile and evil and barbaric! Only fucktards like you find rape, enslavement, terrorism, mass murders, genocide, pedophilia, misogyny and sexual perversion things to speak up for.

You bastard! This is from the quran you bastard! Only fucking bastards brought up by the devil will find such teachings non-violent. You dirty lying cunt! Have you ever read the Satanic quran? I doubt it you lying useless worthless scum!


http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...

but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.



Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."



Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.



Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."



Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').



Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.



Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"



Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."



Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle). According to the verse, Allah will allow the disabled into Paradise, but will provide a larger reward to those who are able to kill others in his cause.



Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?



Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"



Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.



Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."



Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."



Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."



Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."



Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."



Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."



Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.



Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.



Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.



Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.


Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"



Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.



Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).


Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.



Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."


Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." How does the Quran define a true believer?



Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."



Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).



Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)



Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"



Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.



Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.



Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost." Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad. The wounded are to be held captive for ransom. The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test.



Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"



Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.



Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including 65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..



Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.



Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success." This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above). It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.



Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.
 

ChaoPappyPoodle

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South East Asia has suffered enough under Islamic expansionist policies via violent jihad.

Indonesia/Malaysia etc had contact with China and India for many centuries and followed animist, Hindu, Buddhist and Confucian beliefs. Java had wonderful, highly ornate Hindu and Buddhist temples eg the Borobudur Buddhist monument built about 800AD, considered the greatest in the southern hemisphere and one of the best in the world. When Islam arrived in force in the 16th century, the temples became ruins.(Enc. Brit v 9 p 467, 475, 479). Palembang (Sumatra) was a centre of Buddhist learning (Enc. Brit. P 478).
Muslims bombed the remains of the wondrous ancient Borobudur Buddhist temple in Central Java (Indonesia) in January 1985 (Khan p 169).

Muslims possibly entered the area from Gujarat India to Indonesia. There are few signs of Islam with an epitaph for a non-native Muslim woman from 11-12 century in Leran (if not a later import), a tombstone in Arabic in Sumadra to Sultan Malik et Saleh (Malik as-salih) who died in 1297 and a Malay inscription in Arabic characters of 1303 or 1387 in Trenggenu (between Malacca and Thailand) (Widjojoatmodjo, 1942; Enc. Brit. V9 p 482). Note the imposition of ARABIC. The actual evidence of Islam’s arrival is thin but they probably entered via ports in Aceh (Sumatra).

Attempts are made to sell the line that Islam spread in India and SE Asia thanks to traders (yes, there were some Arab Muslim enclaves –but not significant conversions) and those singing and dancing sufis despite the real evidence of violent jihad, mass enslavement, extortion, plunder, dhimmitude and forced conversion from the writings of Muslims themselves and others. The sudden ‘conversion’ of the normally resistant population coincides with Islamic violence, jihad, slavery and extortion. There is no evidence of organised Muslim missionary activity from the 14-19th century (Khan p 145). The jihad continues today. Remember from the 13-16th century when Islam developed its power in SE Asia, it was flooding through India, Asia Minor, parts of Europe, and Africa running an enormous slave trade and violent jihad campaigns. Violent jihardi sufis were heavily involved eg in India and these (slave) ‘traders’, jihadi sufis, jihad warriors and Islamic pirates flowed on to SE Asia (see other articles in this series).

Large Muslim armies from elsewhere aren’t required. All that is needed is an Islamic enclave and the conversion of a local leader who takes on the role of jihad warrior to force Islam onto others. Muslim warriors from the worldwide umma travel to any battle to destroy the infidel.

In the 13th-15th century, pre-Islam’s spread there were 3 powerful kingdoms -1) Srivijaya (Malaysia); 2) Majapahit (Indonesian archipelago); 3) Siam (Thailand). Hinduism, Buddhism, and Animism were practised. (Khan p 135).

http://www.islammonitor.org/index.p...hilippines-part-l-in-islams-genocidal-slavery


Before being overrun by Islam, the people of Malaysia and Indonesia were overwhelmingly Hindu and Buddhists. In fact what are today the ASEAN countries had one religion (a mix of Hinduism-Buddhism-Animism) and one culture till the 15th century. They did not look upon themselves as different countries. A large part of today’s Malaysia was a part of the kingdom of Siam (Thailand). And at times Malaysia and Indonesia were under the rule of one single dynasty (Sri Vijaya, Shailendra, Mataram and Majapahit).

The Bas Reliefs of Borobudur in Indonesia and words like Putrajaya (name of the new Malaysian Capital), Tan Sri (honorific title in Malaysia), Garuda (Indonesia’s national air carrier), and names like Megawati Sukarnoputri (Indonesia’s former President), Imam Samudra (the Bali Bomber), which have been derived from the ancient Indian (Sanskrit) language are the only reminders of the Buddhist and Hindu past of the current Muslim population of Malaysia and Indonesia. The clash of the gentle ancestors of the Malays and Indonesians with the violent Muslims is a clash of contrasts.

This is so as there is no greater contrast than that between Buddhism and Islam. While Buddhism is intrinsically and universally non-violent, Islam is a violent, cruel and murderous paranoia as we witnessed in 9/11, 7/7, 3/11 and numerous other events in recent history. The 14 century long history of Islam has been equally violent and bloodied and cruel.
http://www.historyofjihad.org/malaysia.html
 

whoami

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Wah Piangzz leh!

Never know you can find some good read in this forum

U just need to google to find out the truth. I am not going to waste my time discussing with born again xtian missionary chaopappypoodle

Tat chaopappypoodle just doing his job. Just quote out of context. Nothing great. His job is to insult the great prophet and spouting vulgarities. Muslims dont stoop so low as to humiliate his Jesus pbuh. If his Master, Jesus pbuh, knew he has such a follower like chaopappypoodle, he would commit hara kiri.

Cross dress? Hmm....:rolleyes:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/prophet_muhammad_cross_dressing_lie.htm
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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Can we say all religions have been disrespected? Say buddhism, christianity, islam etc yet which religion reacts the most violently? We have movies like say exorcist where the demon posses girl sticks the cross up her pussy and says fuck me jesus on a cult classic film and yes it probably did offend some christians but i highly doubt any of them were going to be murdered for filming and screening that scene. Same thing with the buddhist statue in afghanistan.

The issue here is muslim hypocrisy. Just openly state yeah we are violent/we will really harm you take away your life etc etc if you so much as descecrate or seem to descecrate our religion. Period. That's it argument over. This is what some people that believe in alternate religions like say anton la vey head of the church of satan who was not afraid to admit he belonged to that church and more importantly did not try to deny he worshipped satan and thus could be deemed evil.

Here is a television broadcast of la vey being interviewed by a tv host and being ridiculed by the host but he took it in his stride. He didn't go and claim oh you are wrong and you shouldn't ridicule me etc etc. He was honest. He was a satanist, he worships satan and satan stands for evil etc he didn't try to pretend that satan is actually a good being and that he is essentially good even though in the bible and everyone's perecpetion of satan is an evil being.

Yet ironically he and his church create less violent criminal activities than the freaking so called religion of peace. :rolleyes:


In fact try to factor islam into this equation. Why does this religion of peace somehow have its believers commiting violent acts and thinking that they did something good and yet need to constantly promote itself as the religion of peace. Do you think buddhism promotes itself as a peaceful religion?

Also notice how agitated defenders of islam act when their religion is supposedly being insulted? We have one example right here in this thread. Why does he have to act so agitated so insulted and so ready to "take revenge"? :rolleyes:

It's just disgusting in the sense that when a supposedly religion of peace needs to call itself that and has believers in that religion commit violent acts and acts which totally go against peaceful worship still somehow insist that it is a peaceful religion and anyone who thinks otherwise is well i guess a bad person.

Just try to imagine if the church of satan had over a billion worshippers and they now insist being a satanic worshipper is a good thing and believing in jesus is being evil/satanic i suppose they can actually change it around.
 
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