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lolabunny

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TS's daughter is in p2, meaning 8 y.o.

do u think TS will let his little girl go tru all these stress??

i think TS only objective is to see his little girl more often.. that slut & bastard if still have any conscience in them, better not make things diff or cook up any excuses anymore..

Yah guys, I know it's funny sometimes when we give people stupid advice or just being silly.

But assuming this story is real, we should be mindful of the guy's feelings. These are tough economic times, and if you are a parent, you would understand the trauma the TS goes through when fighting these custody battles as well as try to make a living.

As a teacher, I've taught children who come from divorced families. Sometimes you cannot see the trauma on the child's daily behaviour, ie the child will still appear like normal on a day to day basis.

However, talk to the child and you will know that he or she can feel lonely and abandoned, or neglected.

It is not easy for a child who loves his parents, or at least close to one parent, to have to go through a living arrangement where you don't see one of them. Worse, you see both of them fighting.

Have you guys any idea what goes through the head of an eight year old girl? She is lost and confused and trying to be brave at the same time! If you think that being a grown up is tough in these tough times, have you guys spared a thought for the little girl's feelings if her dad goes nuts??

Shame on you for telling TS to tell his daughter to lie. This is very bad for her character development. I don't care even if I get zapped for this. Because this is not a thread to talk nonsense on!

I do feel for the guy, but this solution is not good. There may also be times when he feels like whacking the other guy, but should he let his daughter see this?

I hope you get custody of your child when she grows up. Also, although it's none of my business, you should think very carefully about the next woman you want to spend your life with. Choose a good stepmom to her, especially if her own mother isn't the modicum of good behaviour.

You are a man, so it may be difficult for you to understand this, but an emotional and value system of a girl can be compromised if she does not get the right guidance from a mom growing up. As a father, I hope you spend time talking to your girl about being "proper" after she grows up. You don't have to badmouth your wife, in fact, no matter how much you hate her, don't badmouth her in front of your daughter. It's tough on you I know. Just teach her some values and share with her your life values.

Please be brave and hope everything works out for you. Sorry if this is really long, but I'm kind of worried about your child, with her being so young. :smile:
 

mudskipper

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Your English is so bad. No wonder your wife has abandoned you for another man.

given the fact that your english is ok enough, you have the EQ of an underdeveloped child.

while a person is venting about his ex wife, you are judging him based on his linguistic skill.

whats the point of havin good english when your judgment and empathy for others sucks?

so u think you can sustain your partner's interest in you based solely on your level of english? that being the case, she'll be going for an angmoh, silly boy!
 

boring

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kobe, forget about revenge , forget everything for ur past regard ur exwife except ur dear daughter. just concentrate fullil ur duty as a father and ur little cute one will know. also forget about saf one crab paid how much. live ur life to the fullest. pick up new hobby, take up sport, eat healthy etc if not all empty talk. wish u all the best.:wink:
 

simple minded

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Hi TS,

I empathise with you cos i have a kiddo of my own.. and I loved him to bits...

I actually believe most parents want the best for their kids, you ex wife included... is it not possible for you to work out something with her calmly?

You are already separated from each other, and I guess both have moved on.. why dun you try to talk the situation out nicely and calmly and work out an arrangement that is best for your kid?

at this point in time, your child's interest should be the most impt, it is no longer about being fair, or who is right and wrong, you have been thru the courts, and rec'd judgement on this matter, there is not much you can do liao.

any grief that you feel will be sorted when judgement day come, whether you are a Christian, Buddist or Taoist or whatever...

As for turning you kid on her mother, what does that help? It will make her very miserable to live with someone whom she hates... and you still cannot keep her with you... how does that help your daughter?

Just my 2 cents worth, I hope you can keep you head up and things will work out somehow.... Cheers.
 

SIFU

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Hi TS,



As for turning you kid on her mother, what does that help? It will make her very miserable to live with someone whom she hates... and you still cannot keep her with you... how does that help your daughter?

Just my 2 cents worth, I hope you can keep you head up and things will work out somehow.... Cheers.

bro simple minded,

i dun think TS ever said he wanted to turn his girl against her mum..

he just tulan that slut & crab make things diff for him thats all:biggrin:
 

simple minded

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Hi Bro Sifu,

Yeah, the part on turning the kid against her mummy was wrt some of the advices given by other bros ...din think it is a good idea, that's all.

cheers
 

pia

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Dear TS, what does your girl think of her mum? Is she happy with them? If she still thinks the world of her mum, as most kids treat BOTH parents as their everything, it's best not to stir up things which ultimately cause the kid unhappiness. Try talking some sense into them that you kid has every right to call you, especially after an outing with you, to let you know she's OK. It's not just their lives, it's the little girl's too. If they know how to be parents, esp your ex-wife, they should also work towards her happiness.

Bottomline is, do your best as a father.. she'll know who's there for her through thick and thin in her growing years.

I'm a bit late sharing.. thot this was a boh liao thread about SAF major's pay..:o
 

VIBGYOR

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kobe, forget about revenge , forget everything for ur past regard ur exwife except ur dear daughter. just concentrate fullil ur duty as a father and ur little cute one will know. also forget about saf one crab paid how much. live ur life to the fullest. pick up new hobby, take up sport, eat healthy etc if not all empty talk. wish u all the best.:wink:

actually instead of forgetting you should address the problem why this happens, otherwise you may bring the same problem to your next relationship. and history will definitely repeat itself again. that is why divorcee keeps on having relationship problems because they have been hurt before and do not wish to deal with the problem by forgetting it.

you have to break the buddha cycle of suffering!
 

Frankiestine

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Shame on you for telling TS to tell his daughter to lie. This is very bad for her character development.

whats wrong with that....no one said divorce is not a dirty game...and from the way i see it...TS ex wife fired the first salvo and he has been taking a lot of her punches without any retaliation..and from one who has been through it all...even if don't do anything, those bitches would probably do something to frame the ex-hubbie...


:oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:FUCK THE FAMILEE COCK:oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:
 

pia

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whats wrong with that....no one said divorce is not a dirty game...and from the way i see it...TS ex wife fired the first salvo and he has been taking a lot of her punches without any retaliation..and from one who has been through it all...even if don't do anything, those bitches would probably do something to frame the ex-hubbie...


:oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:FUCK THE FAMILEE COCK:oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:

Not really for that... If TS wants to retaliate, I would suggest he pulls the punches himself. Won't encourage using his daughter as a weapon.
 

Frankiestine

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Yes, who never lie?

忠忠直直,终需乞食

yup.....especially the chinese saying...i never believed in been loyal whether to company or country..cos end of the day..as long as they treat you as a dispensable slave..."YOU'LL GET SCREWED"...
 

kobe23

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Yah guys, I know it's funny sometimes when we give people stupid advice or just being silly.

But assuming this story is real, we should be mindful of the guy's feelings. These are tough economic times, and if you are a parent, you would understand the trauma the TS goes through when fighting these custody battles as well as try to make a living.

As a teacher, I've taught children who come from divorced families. Sometimes you cannot see the trauma on the child's daily behaviour, ie the child will still appear like normal on a day to day basis.

However, talk to the child and you will know that he or she can feel lonely and abandoned, or neglected.

It is not easy for a child who loves his parents, or at least close to one parent, to have to go through a living arrangement where you don't see one of them. Worse, you see both of them fighting.

Have you guys any idea what goes through the head of an eight year old girl? She is lost and confused and trying to be brave at the same time! If you think that being a grown up is tough in these tough times, have you guys spared a thought for the little girl's feelings if her dad goes nuts??

Shame on you for telling TS to tell his daughter to lie. This is very bad for her character development. I don't care even if I get zapped for this. Because this is not a thread to talk nonsense on!

I do feel for the guy, but this solution is not good. There may also be times when he feels like whacking the other guy, but should he let his daughter see this?

I hope you get custody of your child when she grows up. Also, although it's none of my business, you should think very carefully about the next woman you want to spend your life with. Choose a good stepmom to her, especially if her own mother isn't the modicum of good behaviour.

You are a man, so it may be difficult for you to understand this, but an emotional and value system of a girl can be compromised if she does not get the right guidance from a mom growing up. As a father, I hope you spend time talking to your girl about being "proper" after she grows up. You don't have to badmouth your wife, in fact, no matter how much you hate her, don't badmouth her in front of your daughter. It's tough on you I know. Just teach her some values and share with her your life values.

Please be brave and hope everything works out for you. Sorry if this is really long, but I'm kind of worried about your child, with her being so young. :smile:

what you said is very true..and i agree with you...

yes, i admit i did badmouth ex wife during the divorce proceeding as she really give me a hard time ....she even said in her affidivate that i rape my daughter..

for the past few years, i have learnt to let go and only focus on my daughter development and treason the time i have with her...the rest, i do not really bother much...
we even have our own " talking dairy" time whereby i only listen to what she says on how she feels and how she look at certain things even i am not happy with her thoughts, i have to be neutral and gave her proper advise or solution and direct her to look at another angle of things or life or even explain to her what is the result or effect if she did it her way or think it on her ways...

For divorce case, children is always the victim and not the parents...as we are adults, its easier for us to get thru it cos we got work to do and easier for us to adjust...but for my daughter, its not easy....sometimes, i do know she tells lies just in order to get into your good looks or to survive in ex wife family ,so that she will not be scolded etc....its a no good development but she needs to survive on it in order to get thru life daily.......
 

kobe23

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Hi TS,

I empathise with you cos i have a kiddo of my own.. and I loved him to bits...

I actually believe most parents want the best for their kids, you ex wife included... is it not possible for you to work out something with her calmly?

You are already separated from each other, and I guess both have moved on.. why dun you try to talk the situation out nicely and calmly and work out an arrangement that is best for your kid?

at this point in time, your child's interest should be the most impt, it is no longer about being fair, or who is right and<textarea name="message" id="vB_Editor_001_textarea" rows="10" cols="60" style="display:block; width:540px; height:250px" tabindex="1" dir="ltr">
Hi TS,

I empathise with you cos i have a kiddo of my own.. and I loved him to bits...

I actually believe most parents want the best for their kids, you ex wife included... is it not possible for you to work out something with her calmly?

You are already separated from each other, and I guess both have moved on.. why dun you try to talk the situation out nicely and calmly and work out an arrangement that is best for your kid?

at this point in time, your child's interest should be the most impt, it is no longer about being fair, or who is right and wrong, you have been thru the courts, and rec'd judgement on this matter, there is not much you can do liao.

any grief that you feel will be sorted when judgement day come, whether you are a Christian, Buddist or Taoist or whatever...

As for turning you kid on her mother, what does that help? It will make her very miserable to live with someone whom she hates... and you still cannot keep her with you... how does that help your daughter?

Just my 2 cents worth, I hope you can keep you head up and things will work out somehow.... Cheers.

if everyone can thinks like you, life will be easier for everyone...listen, i have tried to talk to her even before the divorce proceeding.....

she is not sincere in talking to me...only talk to me abt maintenance this and that, and if i dun accept, then see me in court....after that, no point talking....

she is the one who still hates me as if i committed adultery and yet she is the one doing it...well, i still have my PI VCD to prove it......

even till now we have move on, she still not happy if i am late in bring my daughter back....so far, the latest i brought her back is 15mins late only for the past 4-5 yrs.

and it only happens 2 times in my memory....last time, when i am late for 1-2 mins, she will start to SMS me that she is waiting downstair and why i am not back and this last for at least 1-2 yrs at the beginning....
 

kobe23

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Dear TS, what does your girl think of her mum? Is she happy with them? If she still thinks the world of her mum, as most kids treat BOTH parents as their everything, it's best not to stir up things which ultimately cause the kid unhappiness. Try talking some sense into them that you kid has every right to call you, especially after an outing with you, to let you know she's OK. It's not just their lives, it's the little girl's too. If they know how to be parents, esp your ex-wife, they should also work towards her happiness.

Bottomline is, do your best as a father.. she'll know who's there for her through thick and thin in her growing years.

I'm a bit late sharing.. thot this was a boh liao thread about SAF major's <textarea name="message" id="vB_Editor_001_textarea" rows="10" cols="60" style="display:block; width:540px; height:250px" tabindex="1" dir="ltr">
Dear TS, what does your girl think of her mum? Is she happy with them? If she still thinks the world of her mum, as most kids treat BOTH parents as their everything, it's best not to stir up things which ultimately cause the kid unhappiness. Try talking some sense into them that you kid has every right to call you, especially after an outing with you, to let you know she's OK. It's not just their lives, it's the little girl's too. If they know how to be parents, esp your ex-wife, they should also work towards her happiness.

Bottomline is, do your best as a father.. she'll know who's there for her through thick and thin in her growing years.

I'm a bit late sharing.. thot this was a boh liao thread about SAF major's pay..:o

she spoken to me a lot of times wanting to come back to my place and stay forever..she even ask me if stay with me, can still call or go back to her mother place like over the weekend? i said of course...like now...she comes back to me over weekend to stay with me for a night.....

she told me she dun like her mother place...she always wanted to stay with me for long....and i told her, when she grows up, she can do that..cos the court order only tie down me and her mum but not her....

When she grows up a little bit more, i feel more assure , at least she knows how to speak yup for herself...thats what i am waiting for......
 

lolabunny

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what you said is very true..and i agree with you...

yes, i admit i did badmouth ex wife during the divorce proceeding as she really give me a hard time ....she even said in her affidivate that i rape my daughter..

for the past few years, i have learnt to let go and only focus on my daughter development and treason the time i have with her...the rest, i do not really bother much...
we even have our own " talking dairy" time whereby i only listen to what she says on how she feels and how she look at certain things even i am not happy with her thoughts, i have to be neutral and gave her proper advise or solution and direct her to look at another angle of things or life or even explain to her what is the result or effect if she did it her way or think it on her ways...

For divorce case, children is always the victim and not the parents...as we are adults, its easier for us to get thru it cos we got work to do and easier for us to adjust...but for my daughter, its not easy....sometimes, i do know she tells lies just in order to get into your good looks or to survive in ex wife family ,so that she will not be scolded etc....its a no good development but she needs to survive on it in order to get thru life daily.......

I can't believe your ex wife did that??!! The talking diary idea sounds good actually. I think you should bring her to stay with you once you can, legally and financially. How can she grow up telling lies in order to survive when she's only eight? I think she's learning from her mom, if you don't mind me saying.

Adults tell white lies in the corporate world, I think this is not so good for her when she is this young.

If you need any advice, please pm me. I think you are a good dad and hope you will always be that.

Meanwhile, be sensitive if you have lady friends and try not to introduce them to your daughter till she is ready. I'm just speaking from experience as a teacher. At this time, she will need to feel that she has your fullest attention and love.
 

vamjok

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what you said is very true..and i agree with you...

yes, i admit i did badmouth ex wife during the divorce proceeding as she really give me a hard time ....she even said in her affidivate that i rape my daughter..

for the past few years, i have learnt to let go and only focus on my daughter development and treason the time i have with her...the rest, i do not really bother much...
we even have our own " talking dairy" time whereby i only listen to what she says on how she feels and how she look at certain things even i am not happy with her thoughts, i have to be neutral and gave her proper advise or solution and direct her to look at another angle of things or life or even explain to her what is the result or effect if she did it her way or think it on her ways...

For divorce case, children is always the victim and not the parents...as we are adults, its easier for us to get thru it cos we got work to do and easier for us to adjust...but for my daughter, its not easy....sometimes, i do know she tells lies just in order to get into your good looks or to survive in ex wife family ,so that she will not be scolded etc....its a no good development but she needs to survive on it in order to get thru life daily.......

bro,

i am really jealous of your daughter for having a father like you. i myself was from a broken family but i had a fucking useless gambler dad (that why i almost try to avoid gambling).

treat her nice, talk sense to her she will understand. both you and that sluts are her parents, i am sure both want the best for your daughter. i hope that bastard regular treat her as good as his own.

remind that slut that she is your daughter as well, although she has the custody now, YOU TOO HAVE THE RIGHT TO SEE HER AND BRING HER OUT. my fucker dad the total no of times he brought me out after my parents got divorce i can fucking count with 1 hand. i hate fuckers like him, dont be one.

be a good father, the kid has suffered enough. tell that slut to spare her from adult politics.
 

boring

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actually instead of forgetting you should address the problem why this happens, otherwise you may bring the same problem to your next relationship. and history will definitely repeat itself again. that is why divorcee keeps on having relationship problems because they have been hurt before and do not wish to deal with the problem by forgetting it.

you have to break the buddha cycle of suffering!

this is relationship, relationship don't have a fix formular, express the problem for fuck?! wat is past got to let go, former cannot work out then let it go and move on, why keep on pin point minor problem which come to no ending, especially relationship, the more u drag the more deeper into the shit hole.

ur style of manage thing is a kind of hatred expression.
 
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