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Verdict : Singapore Constitution Isn't that Democratic

Goh Meng Seng

Alfrescian (InfP) [Comp]
Generous Asset
Well, I have been waken from my political slumber once again and this time, it is really the most exciting and important happening that comes into my mind! I have long suspected that Singapore isn't a democratic country that all of us are made to believe by reciting our National Pledge everyday during our school time. Forget about the pledge which just state <b>"Highfalutin"</b> motherhood statements and ideas on <b>"to build a democratic society"</b>. That pledge is after all, just for kids and teenagers to recite! How many of us, or the politicians who recite that pledge every time (only on National Day and election rallies), truly believe in all those <b>Highfalutin ideas </b>embedded in it? Stop kidding ourselves!

My suspicion that Singapore isn't and never was, a democratic society at all has been proven by a learned judge today. I am so happy that these mysterious doubts in my head have finally been cleared and solved. I have to thank this learned judge for his great effort in helping me to confirm that our Constitution wasn't really written with true democratic principles in mind. Let me elaborate here.

According to <a href="http://www.todayonline.com/Hotnews/EDC120801-0000117/Hougang-residents-by-election-application-dismissed-by-High-Court-Judge">Todayonline report</a>, the presiding judge of the Hougang By-Election case, Justice Philip Pillai, has declared that <b></b>
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<b>"there was no requirement in the Constitution to call elections to fill elected Member vacancies. There being no such requirement, there arises no prescribed time within which such elections must be called".</b></blockquote>

He further elaborates that

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<b>Under the Constitution, to call or not to call an election to fill an elected Member vacancy is a decision to be made by the Prime Minister. Should the Prime Minister decide to call an election to fill an elected Member vacancy. The Parliamentary Elections Act merely provides the mechanism to hold such an election should the Prime Minister decide to call one.</b></blockquote>

Let me put it in simple words. The learned judge is basically saying that our previous "perceptions" that the government "must" hold a by-election if any parliamentary seat is vacated, is awfully and utterly wrong and rubbish! He is saying that there is absolutely NOTHING in our Constitution that says the government of the day MUST call for by-election under any circumstances! And he is basically saying that it is ALL UP TO the Prime Minister to decide on whether to call for by-elections or not. No other people, including the President, can make that decision! Well, never mind about what the Article 49 says "shall be filled by election ". "Shall" doesn't mean "MUST"! That is, in Singlish (Singapore English lingo), Bo Ba Ke!

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<b>Article 49 Filing of Vacancies
(1) Whenever the seat of a Member, not being a non-constituency Member, has become vacant for any reason other than a dissolution of Parliament, the vacancy shall be filled by election in the manner provided by or under any law relating to Parliamentary elections for the time being in force.
(2) The Legislature may by law provide for
(a) the vacating of a seat of a non-constituency Member in circumstances other than those specified in Article 46;
(b) the filling of vacancies of the seats of non-constituency Members where such vacancies are caused otherwise than by a dissolution of Parliament.</b></blockquote>

This means that the Prime Minister has all the power in Singapore, to decide on his very own, whether to call for By-Elections or not. He is the CHOSEN ONE with the only POWER to do that. Even the parliament cannot force him to do anything if he just doesn't feel like it. Well, doesn't that sound like a dictatorial style kind of Constitutional Empowerment? YES! ABSOLUTELY!

Many other people, even those so call "Constitutional Experts" like Assistant Professor Jack Lee, NMP Eugene Tan, Professor Thio Li-ann, Professor Kevin Tan, ex-NMP Siew Kum Hong etc are ALL WRONG! They thought that it is legally binding that the PM must call for by-elections within a stipulated time. They were all WRONG in arguing on whether the PM must call for by-election within the time frame or not! They didn't know or realize that the Constitution wasn't written with such Democratic principles in mind at all in the very first place!

How could we consider the Constitution to be written with such Democratic principles when the power was empowered to ONE MOST IMPORTANT person to decide on such electoral matters? There wasn't any "RULE" written in Constitution to enforce proper representation of the people at all. Imagine, if a rogue government has been voted in and it started to round up all its opponents and put them behind bars for donkey years, it doesn't need to call for any by-elections at all because the Constitution doesn't say so! Never mind about whether the constituents who voted in those opposition MPs being ROBBED of their voices in parliament or not because, the PM just don't like to hold by-elections! So, the parliament could carry on to rubber stamp anything, everything under the sun; they could even change the Constitution to be written exactly like the ones communist countries have! They could even change Singapore's name to "People's Republic of Singapore"!

When the Constitution doesn't put much weight, stress and respect to the democratic idea of "people's representation" through fair and just universal suffrage or elections, could it be considered as a Constitution written with Democratic principles?

All these years, I have difficulties in convincing many people that Singapore isn't really set to be a democratic country at all but they just simply point to our National Pledge. Hey, how many people would bother to understand what our Constitution says? Well, the Americans might have been taught about their four pages of Constitution or "Charters of Freedom" as "National Education", but we are only taught about how good PAP is in our school's National Education! Nothing about our Constitution at all! Least about what Democracy means to us! I can't blame them because I can hardly remember our Constitution as well!

Well, even when PAP starts to berate the simple National Pledge as full of "Highfalutin Ideas", Singaporeans I have met still insist that we are "Democratic country". Never mind if we score so low in Press Freedom or Political Freedom or being labelled "ill-democratic"... They say we have elections, never mind about whether GRC is fair or not...In fact, our Main Stream Media have "well established writers" who constantly write about Democracy is bad! (Read Zaobao Forum)

I felt so depressed sometimes because so many people thought I am MAD to say that Singapore isn't really built on democratic principles and we are not tailored to be a democracy at all. I finally find solace and feel vindicated by the learned judge's, Justice Philip Pillai, public verdict on this matter.

I feel that it would be even convincing for others to believe me if someone could go to the court again and claim that the PM could actually APPOINT any persons to take over the parliamentary seats which are vacated in any circumstances! The judge could finally put to rest on any doubts about whether Singapore is written with Democracy in mind by giving the rightful judgement that since the Constitution is silent about it and didn't deny the PM of such power of appointment, the PM can just make such appointment! This does not contravene any Constitutional rules and it is in fact consistent with what the Constitution has been empowering the government, of appointing NMPs or NCMPs (who are losers in GE) into parliament! Never mind if NMPs have any basis of constituents' support, just forget about that Highfalutin Democratic idea of representation, just appoint. If the government can appoint anyone without a single constituent's support or vote into parliament, what's wrong for the PM to appoint any one to take over the vacated parliamentary seat? Anything is possible as long as the Constitution didn't state anything about it!

<b>(After Note: Some of my friends questioned me about this point about the legitimacy of having PM appointing any individual to take over any vacated seat. I just told them, our learned judge has written his judgement and verdict based on something which is not written in the Constitution, not something that was written in the Constitution! Thus, I am very confident that our learned judge would also use this argument that anything that is NOT written in the Constitution could be viewed as legitimate! Thus, those who don't agree are those who don't really understand how our legal system works! Just like those Constitutional experts who have gotten all their reasoning wrong because they have blatantly ignore this good practice of our law! )</b>

In fact, PAP has already exercised such idea! Any seats vacated in any GRC, they don't need to go for by-elections, never mind if the constituents of that vacated seat has lost their representative and voice in parliament or not. PAP can just appoint the rest of the MPs in that GRC to take care of his ward, represent his constituents... no need by-election what! This is just short of appointing a non-MP to take over his place!

Well, to further into the logical argument, if they can do that for GRC, why can't they do it to SMC as well? Even if it is an opposition ward, never mind. Just as long as PAP PM APPOINTS a PAP MP to "take care" of this ward, as long as someone can go to the ward and sit down, listen to the constituents' problems and write letters for them, problem solved! Well, even if PM wants to exercise his power further, he could have just appointed the PAP candidate who have lost in that opposition ward to stand in as MP! Why not? All matters are about weekly writing letters sessions! The MPS, meet the people sessions!

In short, my fellow Singaporeans, please wake up and stop your democratic dreams! It must be very clear to all of us now that the learned judge has just basically confirmed that the Constitution has given the PM FULL POWER to dictate on such electoral matters, aka by-elections. The Constitution WASN'T supposed to be written to enhance Democracy as we have foolishly misled ourselves by reciting the pledge with those highfalutin ideas! No matter how hard you dream, the truth has already been revealed and confirmed. Please remember, PAP has all along given all the hints about the TRUE Singapore; it is not our right to vote but just a privilege given by PAP. A privilege that could possibly be taken away from us. Our National Pledge is just full of Highfalutin Ideas which are never meant to be achieved.

We should be prepared, fully be prepared for the day, as I have mentioned, for the possibility to be renamed as People's Republic of Singapore. That would be a name that truly represent what Singapore is.

We will be celebrating our National Day in one week's time. May be it would be a good time to reflect on the REALITY that is brought on by this very important verdict by the learned judge. May be we should pause a while and think whether we should continue to recite that Highfalutin National Pledge after we are awaken to the fact that the very fundamental of our Nation's existence, the Constitution, isn't exactly written with much Democratic principles in mind.

Goh Meng Seng

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Hougang resident's by-election application dismissed by High Court Judge
Updated 03:25 PM Aug 01, 2012
SINGAPORE - A High Court Judge has dismissed a Hougang resident's application to declare that the Prime Minister does not have "unfettered discretion" over whether and when to call a by-election.

Madam Vellama Marie Muthu had also applied for a mandatory order for the by-election to be called in Hougang within three months or a reasonable time, after the seat was vacated.

Mdm Vellama, 42, a part-time cleaner, had filed her application on March 2, following the sacking of former Member of Parliament Yaw Shin Leong from the Workers' Party on Feb 15.

In his judgment released today, Justice Philip Pillai noted there was no requirement in the Constitution to call elections to fill elected Member vacancies. There being no such requirement, there arises no prescribed time within which such elections must be called, he added.

Under the Constitution, to call or not to call an election to fill an elected Member vacancy is a decision to be made by the Prime Minister, said Justice Pillai. Should the Prime Minister decide to call an election to fill an elected Member vacancy, he has a discretion as to when to call it, he added.

The Parliamentary Elections Act merely provides the mechanism to hold such an election should the Prime Minister decide to call one, said Justice Pillai. In the event that the Prime Minister decides to call an election to fill an elected Member vacancy, section 24 of the Parliamentary Elections Act requires that the President issue writs under the public seal to the Returning Officer to convene such election to supply vacancies caused by death, resignation or otherwise. "In so doing, the President is obliged to act in accordance with Article 21 of the Constitution," he added.



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wikiphile

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
I am terribly sorry that if you really can't understand, I have no means to help you.

Goh Meng Seng

I am even more sorry that if you really can't understand, nobody wants to be bothered with your 'anal-sex-list'. May your extraterrestrial friends help you
 
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Thick Face Black Heart

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Generous Asset
The by-election is HG was called quickly within a few months because from the early beginning, the govt was aware of the ground sentiment. That was why the PAP's blue-eyed boy Eugene Tan went to CNA and ST to declare "his" stand/opinion that the govt should call for a by-election.

If the ground was apathetic, the govt could have dragged its feet, but not so lucky this time round as the mood is still fresh from 2011 and a lot of burning issues on people's minds especially foreigners taking away jobs and making life a living hell in Singapore.

The 1965 constitutional amendment was done to give the PAP leeway to hold off by-elections in case people start playing political games with the electoral system, or start vacating parliamentary seats frivolously. Basically to prevent people from triggering by-elections as and when it suits their purposes/fancies/whims. With the absence of Barisan or other real opposition (unlike what we have today) it was basically a tool of internal control to make sure the PM has all the cards in his hands.

It is the citizens that will force the PAP's hands and make them act in more democratic ways. If we have more oppo in Parliament, its also harder for PAP to act blur and pretend they can drag their feet indefinitely when a seat has been vacated. Forget constitutional amendment as it's not going to happen until the oppo captures 2/3 of parliament which will not happen in the next 3 or 4 elections. It is the national groundswell that will force PAP to act.
 

myfoot123

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Well, I have been waken from my political slumber... I have long suspected that Singapore isn't a democratic country that all of us are made to believe by reciting our National Pledge everyday during our school time. My suspicion that Singapore isn't and never was, a democratic society at all has been proven by a learned judge today. I am so happy that these mysterious doubts in my head have finally been cleared and solved. I

:eek:I also woke up from my slumber and find it new that you think this is so mysterious when IN FACT everyone knew Singapore never is a democratic country. You are simply repeating what has all along been expected from our Kangaroo in most people's mind, at least 90% Sam forumers here believe so. Just like you find it so surprising that WP still win at least 60% votes in the bi-election.
 
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lockeliberal

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Dear Thick

If we look at it from a strictly legal argument , then Justice Pillai has made a strong case. The clincher which GMS leaves out is that in 1963 there was inserted a change in the constitution to hold "elections within three months of a vacancy" so that the SG constitution was in line with the Malaysia Constitution. After Singapore left, that change was taken out and it was at the behest of LKY.

So then constitutionally the discretion when to call a by election rests entirely in the realm of politics and the pressure and strength of feeling on the ground.


Locke





The by-election is HG was called quickly within a few months because from the early beginning, the govt was aware of the ground sentiment. That was why the PAP's blue-eyed boy Eugene Tan went to CNA and ST to declare "his" stand/opinion that the govt should call for a by-election.

If the ground was apathetic, the govt could have dragged its feet, but not so lucky this time round as the mood is still fresh from 2011 and a lot of burning issues on people's minds especially foreigners taking away jobs and making life a living hell in Singapore.

The 1965 constitutional amendment was done to give the PAP leeway to hold off by-elections in case people start playing political games with the electoral system, or start vacating parliamentary seats frivolously. Basically to prevent people from triggering by-elections as and when it suits their purposes/fancies/whims. With the absence of Barisan or other real opposition (unlike what we have today) it was basically a tool of internal control to make sure the PM has all the cards in his hands.

It is the citizens that will force the PAP's hands and make them act in more democratic ways. If we have more oppo in Parliament, its also harder for PAP to act blur and pretend they can drag their feet indefinitely when a seat has been vacated. Forget constitutional amendment as it's not going to happen until the oppo captures 2/3 of parliament which will not happen in the next 3 or 4 elections. It is the national groundswell that will force PAP to act.
 

Goh Meng Seng

Alfrescian (InfP) [Comp]
Generous Asset
Yup, a strong case by taking what is not written in the Constitution as the guiding principle.

Goh Meng Seng


Dear Thick

If we look at it from a strictly legal argument , then Justice Pillai has made a strong case. The clincher which GMS leaves out is that in 1963 there was inserted a change in the constitution to hold "elections within three months of a vacancy" so that the SG constitution was in line with the Malaysia Constitution. After Singapore left, that change was taken out and it was at the behest of LKY.

So then constitutionally the discretion when to call a by election rests entirely in the realm of politics and the pressure and strength of feeling on the ground.


Locke
 

Goh Meng Seng

Alfrescian (InfP) [Comp]
Generous Asset
Dear Locke,

Yup, you have a very good point here and I don't disagree with you.

If a Constitution is written to create dictatorship, all judges also bo pian and will end up saying, well, we must follow the initial INTENT of the Constitution, which is, to create and sustain a dictatorship.... Just like China. If you are against CCP, you are against the Constitution (because the Constitution written by CCP has dictated that only CCP is the legitimate ruling party and no one else could rule China) and thus, you are against the whole country...

So, it is true that and right that the learned judge has ruled as such, because according to the past amendment made by PAP to the Constitution, to do away (removed) with the 3 months limited time frame, the original intent of the Constitution is not meant to be Democratic at all but subject to the will of PAP. The learned judge is definitely right in this sense and there is nothing wrong for him to speculate that the reason why the Constitution didn't dictate that by elections MUST be held for vacated seats means that the original intent of the Constitution is for PM to decide, just like any dictator who will decide whether to give you the privilege to vote and have a representative in parliament or not. Yes, how true, our Constitution is not meant to uphold democracy at all.


Dear Thick

If we look at it from a strictly legal argument , then Justice Pillai has made a strong case. The clincher which GMS leaves out is that in 1963 there was inserted a change in the constitution to hold "elections within three months of a vacancy" so that the SG constitution was in line with the Malaysia Constitution. After Singapore left, that change was taken out and it was at the behest of LKY.

So then constitutionally the discretion when to call a by election rests entirely in the realm of politics and the pressure and strength of feeling on the ground.


Locke
 

Thick Face Black Heart

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
If we look at it from a strictly legal argument , then Justice Pillai has made a strong case. The clincher which GMS leaves out is that in 1963 there was inserted a change in the constitution to hold "elections within three months of a vacancy" so that the SG constitution was in line with the Malaysia Constitution. After Singapore left, that change was taken out and it was at the behest of LKY.

Justice Pillai has merely followed the letter, but not the spirit of the law. You can argue that a judge is only obliged to follow the letter of the law as far as constitutional cases are concerned and that Pillai has simply done what has been expected of him. However, this case is political in nature to begin with, and Pillai has only passed what I term a "bookworm" judgement -- merely accomplished by reading and interpreting sentences using high school grammar and vocabulary.

The real test of the law is good is whether its application makes sense to the common man. If it does not, then it shows the law is not designed for the common man, but designed to benefit the powers that be.



So then constitutionally the discretion when to call a by election rests entirely in the realm of politics and the pressure and strength of feeling on the ground.
Locke

Isn't that exactly my point???
 
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scroobal

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The Judiciary is not allowed to override parliament no matter how unfair the legislation is. The principle of separation is important and prevents one key state institution does not undermine another. As TFBH pointed earlier that it was changed to address an issue of that time. There are other controls such as you cannot be an MP if you are expelled by your party.

I am amazed that after 2 elections and one as leader of the party with the largest number of candidates, he was not aware of Singapore referred by such endearing terms such as benevolent dictatorship, authoritarian government, tyrannical regime etc. No foreigner has ever defined Singapore as a democracy.

The only reason the PAP held a by elections was to stop whatever goodwill left to be lost. Nothing to do with democracy.
 

Dreamer1

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Loyal
But it is also a fact that our government always declare that we are democratic,with the qualification that we are differenet because of Asian,whatever that means.PAP does not do that in Singapore though.
 

Goh Meng Seng

Alfrescian (InfP) [Comp]
Generous Asset
Dear Scroobal,

Apparently you have failed comprehension here! Read carefully! I understood very well and I said, people don't agree with me when I keep telling them Singapore is not Democracy! :wink:

Goh Meng Seng


The Judiciary is not allowed to override parliament no matter how unfair the legislation is. The principle of separation is important and prevents one key state institution does not undermine another. As TFBH pointed earlier that it was changed to address an issue of that time. There are other controls such as you cannot be an MP if you are expelled by your party.

I am amazed that after 2 elections and one as leader of the party with the largest number of candidates, he was not aware of Singapore referred by such endearing terms such as benevolent dictatorship, authoritarian government, tyrannical regime etc. No foreigner has ever defined Singapore as a democracy.

The only reason the PAP held a by elections was to stop whatever goodwill left to be lost. Nothing to do with democracy.
 

wikiphile

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Generous Asset
Dear Scroobal,

Apparently you have failed comprehension here! Read carefully! I understood very well and I said, people don't agree with me when I keep telling them Singapore is not Democracy! :wink:

Goh Meng Seng

How dare you say that! The wise voters of Tampines did what the wise voters of Aljunied did 5 years ago, they blocked you from entering parliament :oIo:
 

Liquigas

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so long that the pap is in power, you dream on....

KMT ruled Taiwan for nearly 40 years with an iron hand under father and son.

KMT is still in power in Taiwan today and we all know it is a democratic political party. Naturally our politics will evolve in a similar fashion...
 
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