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Chitchat Young Towkay Loves Staying In HDB Despite Owning Several Properties!

JohnTan

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After learning the ropes of the consumer and events industry for nearly a decade, entrepreneur William Chin decided to venture out to be his own boss and found success easily.

The event organising firm which he started in 2011 - Expomal Singapore - was sold at a profit after just 18 months.

Mr Chin struck gold in 2014 with his next venture - Mummys Market - a mother-and-baby care product exhibition with about 800,000 visitors attending its fairs annually. The 37-year-old recalled that the start-up capital was $50,000 and the business broke even within three months.

Mr Chin attributed his success to leveraging social media platforms to engage with consumers and to understand their buying behaviour.

From its early days of organising one fair a year, Mummys Market now holds eight events annually.

"Nearly $100 million in gross merchandise volume is transacted on Mummys Market's platforms annually," said Mr Chin.



Mummys Market also organises Baby Land, Baby World, Kids World and Baby Market. Together, the events serve about 70 per cent to 80 per cent of pregnant mothers here every year, said Mr Chin.

He added that he plans to expand the business regionally.

When it comes to property investing, Mr Chin believes in affordability.

He said: "Don't overstretch yourself and make sure that you can comfortably make your monthly repayments even if you go unemployed for at least one year. In my case, I prefer two years."

Mr Chin graduated from Monash University in Melbourne with a computer science degree in 2000. He is married to a marketing practitioner and they have a one-year-old daughter.

Q DESCRIBE YOUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
A I have been living in my four-room HDB flat in Toa Payoh Central which I bought for $700,000 since 2012. My wife and I enjoy the friendliness, and the tranquillity of the neighbourhood. We had looked at condos and landed properties but still decided on this HDB flat.

We believe that being a part of the community matters to our hectic lives. The convenience of living in an HDB estate, such as having eateries, shops, necessities and parks nearby, simply makes us feel like a part of Singapore.

I haven't kept track of whether the property has appreciated in value as we treat it as our home and have no intention of selling it.

Q WHAT IS IN YOUR PROPERTY PORTFOLIO?
A In 2006, I bought a 1,100 sq ft condo in the East which I sold two years later before it obtained its Temporary Occupation Permit. I made 30 per cent returns.

Last year , I bought two adjoining freehold offices, each measuring 3,000 sq ft. I broke down the wall separating them and have been using the space for my business operations.

In March this year, I bought a freehold, four-bedroom, 2,700 sq ft condominium at River Valley Road for my parents. Soon after, to my surprise, the residents there voted for selling en bloc. So it appears that I may be headed for a windfall if it goes through.

Q DESCRIBE YOUR PROPERTY INVESTING STRATEGY.
A To be honest, I don't have much of a strategy when it comes to property investments. I simply look at the location, the per sq ft price and the surrounding properties' latest transacted prices, to see if it's a good purchase.

I guess I'm still "old school". Property is still the safest investment but only if you are not stressed about the monthly repayments and the miscellaneous costs that come along with it.

Q WHAT'S YOUR VIEW OF THE PROPERTY MARKET?
A I'm not really a guru when it comes to property investment. I do think that property is pretty much stabilised at the moment and won't see much fluctuation until the next big global downturn hits.

It is also mentioned by financial gurus that the next downturn is going to be the biggest disaster.

Q WHAT'S YOUR FINANCING STRATEGY?
A My dad had a few properties previously and he paid 100 per cent cash on them. I asked him why he did that and his answer was: "If I had been more astute in my investments, I wouldn't have done so. If I had taken a loan back then, I would have accumulated tens of properties by now."

I guess I'm influenced by that so for now, I believe in taking loans and investing my cash in financial investments. I ensure that the investment return rates of these investments are higher than the property loan interest rates.

My home loan packages range from 2 per cent to 3 per cent with loan durations of 15 to 20 years. As for the loan amounts, I would just go for the maximum permitted. This means 80 per cent loan for the first property, 50 per cent for the second and 40 per cent for the third.

Q DO YOU HAVE INSURANCE COVER FOR YOUR PROPERTY AND CONTENTS?
A I have just the basic home insurance.

Q WHAT'S YOUR OVERALL INVESTING STRATEGY?
A Being old-school, I still like property investments but I also diversify with bonds, fixed deposits, equities and such.

Q MY DREAM HOME IS....
A My dream home or my family dream home? They are two different things!

My dream home is a beach house so that I can just relax by the beach, drinking a cup of coffee and staring into the ocean and sky. Feasible? Not really...

Then there's my family dream home.

Ideally, my family dream home is close to public transport and malls, and yet, we can still enjoy peace and quiet when we are inside the house.

One consensus that my wife and I have is that we want a house that promotes family time and bonding.

Oh, and no TV in the bedrooms. Want to watch TV? Come to the living room and spend time with the family.

Therefore the living room must be of a nice size. So, the house should be at least 2,500 sq ft to 3,000 sq ft on a single level.

As a guy, I also hope to have my man cave. An entertainment room where I can invite friends and family over and spend time together.

http://www.straitstimes.com/business/heartland-living-suits-him-just-fine
 

Narong Wongwan

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Another propaganda or self promotion piece of article?
BottomLine if you’re rice enough you dun stay Hdb. Find a pap cabinet multi millionaire who does. Or any local tycoon.
Another bullshitter. Self claimed property investor who dun bother or know what is his own house’s worth haha
Hdb should investigate him.
 

rectmobile

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Another propaganda or self promotion piece of article?
BottomLine if you’re rice enough you dun stay Hdb. Find a pap cabinet multi millionaire who does. Or any local tycoon.
Another bullshitter. Self claimed property investor who dun bother or know what is his own house’s worth haha
Hdb should investigate him.

It is because he treats his hdb flat as a home and no intention of selling it and therefore he will not make any effort to know its value. It is not because he is incompetent to find out the value of his hdb property.

This is my first spotting of inferiority complex in this forum in the beginning of 2018.
 

rectmobile

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It is very contradictory that Mr John Tan highlighted a successful individual who graduated from Monash University and not local nus or ntu, and achieve huge success. I thought only losers go to foreign uni? According to Mr John Tan.
 

Narong Wongwan

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It is because he treats his hdb flat as a home and no intention of selling it and therefore he will not make any effort to know its value. It is not because he is incompetent to find out the value of his hdb property.

This is my first spotting of inferiority complex in this forum in the beginning of 2018.

Dun be stewpig la.
For layman ok maybe still believable but for someone who claims to be property investor?
The fucktard claimed he bought condo for parents to stay then got chance enbloc only start counting potential windfall money. If so uninterested in money then say dun disturb parents to move lot....for home not for investment mah
 

Bonut

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Q DESCRIBE YOUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
A I have been living in my four-room HDB flat in Toa Payoh Central which I bought for $700,000 since 2012. My wife and I enjoy the friendliness, and the tranquillity of the neighbourhood. We had looked at condos and landed properties but still decided on this HDB flat.

We believe that being a part of the community matters to our hectic lives. The
convenience of living in an HDB estate, such as having eateries, shops, necessities and parks nearby, simply makes us feel like a part of Singapore.

I haven't kept track of whether the property has appreciated in value as we treat it as our home and have no intention of selling it.
On the one hand, he said he bought the flat for the tranquility of the neighborhood. On the other hand, he extolled the convenience of a typical HDB neighborhood, having eateries, shops and necessities. It's an oxymoron, isn't it ? How can a HDB neighborhood offer convenience he described and tranquility at the same time ?

If you pay $700,000 for a 99-year lease HDB 4-room flat, it doesn't reflect well on you as a smart investor. I think that's why he needs to talk about having no intention to sell the flat. The intention to sell will come if a buyer comes knocking on your door with an attractive offer.

Of course I can pretend to believe in whatever he claims so that I do not come across as being jealous.
 
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rectmobile

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Dun be stewpig la.
For layman ok maybe still believable but for someone who claims to be property investor?
The fucktard claimed he bought condo for parents to stay then got chance enbloc only start counting potential windfall money. If so uninterested in money then say dun disturb parents to move lot....for home not for investment mah

Look.. He depends his business a lot on media and mainstream media is the PAP or govt. Hdb is at 700k is not a good value for investment but if you see it as a home, u will not think of selling it.

For the sake that you are right, he is a smart investor. That does not mean he will need to say the truth about Hdb. He is giving face to the govt so that he can use the mainstream media for his business as a marketing tool.

The say something nice about the hbd flat and the mainstream media will promote his business. It is about using each other for their own benefit. This is the game they are playing. However, I do not like such behaviour as I also preferred to just make a statement as the truth.

The monetary system of the world is causing people to behave in this way.
 
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Papsmearer

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Another propaganda or self promotion piece of article?
BottomLine if you’re rice enough you dun stay Hdb. Find a pap cabinet multi millionaire who does. Or any local tycoon.
Another bullshitter. Self claimed property investor who dun bother or know what is his own house’s worth haha
Hdb should investigate him.

I thought u are not allowed to own private property if you have a HDB flat. HDB is subsidized social housing for people who cannot afford condos.
 

Narong Wongwan

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I thought u are not allowed to own private property if you have a HDB flat. HDB is subsidized social housing for people who cannot afford condos.

Yes can’t own private if got Hdb and that include foreign property (though I wonder how they check....and FT PRs all sure fail this criteria).
Also got income ceiling. to buy Hdb.
Another bullshitter spotted.
There are many rich people in sg who are also media whores....why can’t they find a genuine one. Dun treat their readers like fools mah
 

rectmobile

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As far as I know, if you bought a Hdb first, then u can buy condo. If you get a condo first, you can't get a Hdb flat. The article seems to point that he bought the Hdb flat first before he bought any condo.
 

Bonut

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Yes can’t own private if got Hdb and that include foreign property (though I wonder how they check....and FT PRs all sure fail this criteria).
Also got income ceiling. to buy Hdb.
Another bullshitter spotted.
There are many rich people in sg who are also media whores....why can’t they find a genuine one. Dun treat their readers like fools mah
HDB owners can buy private property as long as they fulfill the minimum occupation period.

http://www.hdb.gov.sg/cs/infoweb/residential/living-in-an-hdb-flat/acquiring-private-property
 

sweetiepie

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As far as I know, if you bought a Hdb first, then u can buy condo. If you get a condo first, you can't get a Hdb flat. The article seems to point that he bought the Hdb flat first before he bought any condo.
my uncle say yes you are correct. he say this is a fuckup rule and pap has many other fuckup rules pertaining to grants etc.
 

ToaPehGong

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I only noticed the couple has no children. The side effects of success? Stress and no time for baby making
 

sweetiepie

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I only noticed the couple has no children. The side effects of success? Stress and no time for baby making
my uncle say if successful couple choose not to make babies and not due to medical conditions are selfish people and they are just making use of each other to have sex and someone to turn to when encounter problems. he say he exclude to share joy as this can easily shared when have alot of money . he also say they want to show people they are normal and for some is scare of having aids.
 
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scroobal

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The concept of public housing became a joke after the son caved in to grassroots leaders. After 5 year occupation a new and resale purchase owner can buy an entire condominium complex or a series of bungalows. A private property owner can also acquire a HDB property, only has to get rid of it in 6 months. The property can be gifted, sold to his private company etc with no consequences.

Its common for businessmen to acquire HDB property to be close to his favourite PAP MP and work the "ground".

Anyway the story does not gel on why he wants to stay in a HDB flat unless he is heavily geared or wants to be close to his PAP MP.
 

Narong Wongwan

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JohnTan

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It is very contradictory that Mr John Tan highlighted a successful individual who graduated from Monash University and not local nus or ntu, and achieve huge success. I thought only losers go to foreign uni? According to Mr John Tan.

Not every graduate of inferior schools like Monash, SIM or ITE do badly. A small handful will do well. But it doesn't negate the fact that students enroll in such institutes because they did badly enough in school. So I don't see your point.

Ok given the rules permitting....would a really rich person however savvy he is go thru the hassle of buying a Hdb flat even though he can?
How many rich people however ngeow or stingy stay in Hdb? I dare say it’s zero.
Rich people dun bother waste time making such peanuts.

You need to stop using billionaires to exaggerate your point.

From my grassroots circles alone, I know of at least 20 people with net worth around $10M each and below who live in HDB. They too are millionaires. Not every millionaire count their fortunes in hundreds of millions.

Millionaires are not legally obligated to vacate their HDB flats and move to condos and private property.
 

rectmobile

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I only noticed the couple has no children. The side effects of success? Stress and no time for baby making
old fart, please read using your reading glasses. After you remember to change your adult diaper, you forget where you place your reading glasses? They have a child, btw.
 
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