Would You Like Him As Your Candidate?

[Ramseth]

How about someone who's business rental per month could pay for two MPs? Surely he's not interested with the MP pay. Someone who has master's degree from a reputable and highly ranked university in England. Someone who's still below 40 and yet incredibly successful counting royalties among his clientele. Someone who's schooled in economics and politics under some of the best disciplines offered anywhere in the world.

 

[GoldenDragon]

How about someone who's business rental per month could pay for two MPs? Surely he's not interested with the MP pay. Someone who has master's degree from a reputable and highly ranked university in England. Someone who's still below 40 and yet incredibly successful counting royalties among his clientele. Someone who's schooled in economics and politics under some of the best disciplines offered anywhere in the world.

Mr Ramseth, you referring to me? Hahahaha. Or yourself?

 

[Ramseth]

Mr Ramseth, you referring to me? Hahahaha. Or yourself?

Certainly not yours truly, but if you fit the criteria, please feel free to apply for candidacy at any opposition party.

 

[wahlaneh]

wahlaneh...
i want jonathon wong n mas selamat kastari.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Certainly not yours truly, but if you fit the criteria, please feel free to apply for candidacy at any opposition party.

Ok, I will check this out with GMS. Thanks.

 

[Ramseth]

Ok, I will check this out with GMS. Thanks.

Good. Please stand for election. Opposition needs more people like you.

I can't stand for election. No man with long-hair pony-tail can stand for election.

 

[jw5]

How about someone who's business rental per month could pay for two MPs? Surely he's not interested with the MP pay. Someone who has master's degree from a reputable and highly ranked university in England. Someone who's still below 40 and yet incredibly successful counting royalties among his clientele. Someone who's schooled in economics and politics under some of the best disciplines offered anywhere in the world.

It's not just about the MP's pay.
This unknown hypothetical candidate could be gunning for the extra benefits and power that an MP's position brings or even the potential benefits that he may reap.
We will never really know whether a candidate really wants to help Singaporeans and make Singapore better, until he is elected and scrutinized over a period of time.
Whether he has royalties, rental, higher degrees or education in elite schools are all irrelevant.

 

[heartlander]

What's this all about? Such a person would surely already be on PAP's rader long before the opposition could find out what a master's degree is

 

[heartlander]

It's not just about the MP's pay.
This unknown hypothetical candidate could be gunning for the extra benefits and power that an MP's position brings or even the potential benefits that he may reap.
We will never really know whether a candidate really wants to help Singaporeans and make Singapore better, until he is elected and scrutinized over a period of time.
Whether he has royalties, rental, higher degrees or education in elite schools are all irrelevant.

Really? I don't want any well-intentioned retards in my government.

 

[lianbeng]

wahlaneh...
i want jonathon wong n mas selamat kastari.

lianbeng never come out u donnoe who lianbeng right?:oIo:

 

[Ramseth]

It's not just about the MP's pay.
This unknown hypothetical candidate could be gunning for the extra benefits and power that an MP's position brings or even the potential benefits that he may reap.
We will never really know whether a candidate really wants to help Singaporeans and make Singapore better, until he is elected and scrutinized over a period of time.
Whether he has royalties, rental, higher degrees or education in elite schools are all irrelevant.

These are questions why very few want to stand as opposition candidates. Such questions, have voters as of their PAP candidates? No, PAP candidates are default base candidates. If opposition can't pass these questions, PAP wins, without such questions. Why don't people ask, are PAP candidates there for extra benefits, do they really want to help people? It's all irrevelant, PAP candidates are default last resorts with nothing measured against them. The challengers must be lily whiter than PAP white, don't need MP pay, don't need extra benefits even if incidental. PAP MPs earning MP pay with incidental extra benefits are alright, default.

 

[jw5]

Really? I don't want any well-intentioned retards in my government.

Only a retard would nominate a retard or vote for a retard.
The issue here is not about retards or fools.
But if you asked me whether I prefer a well-meaning ordinary person who is not so educated or intelligent, or an extremely intelligent and highly educated person who is aiming for the position not to help the country and the people, I would choose the former anytime.

 

[jw5]

These are questions why very few want to stand as opposition candidates. Such questions, have voters as of their PAP candidates? No, PAP candidates are default base candidates. If opposition can't pass these questions, PAP wins, without such questions. Why don't people ask, are PAP candidates there for extra benefits, do they really want to help people? It's all irrevelant, PAP candidates are default last resorts with nothing measured against them. The challengers must be lily whiter than PAP white, don't need MP pay, don't need extra benefits even if incidental. PAP MPs earning MP pay with incidental extra benefits are alright, default.

You are usually very coherent but I don't understand your first 2 statements at all and can barely understand the rest of the post.
Ok, let me try to understand and clarify.

If your point is that the opposition candidate has to be at least comparable to the pap candidate in terms of education, work experience and financial status to stand a chance at being elected, I agree to a certain extent.

My point is that even if he meets these criteria, it doesn't mean he will make a good opposition MP. All these factors actually have little relevance whether he can make the lives of Singaporeans better, which should be the ultimate and major objective of an MP.

Of course, part of this objective would include "taking care" or "looking after" the ward, including clearing the rubbish.

 

[Glaringly]

No.

You have not say anything that that someone can or willing to do for the people!

How about someone who's business rental per month could pay for two MPs? Surely he's not interested with the MP pay. Someone who has master's degree from a reputable and highly ranked university in England. Someone who's still below 40 and yet incredibly successful counting royalties among his clientele. Someone who's schooled in economics and politics under some of the best disciplines offered anywhere in the world.

 

[heartlander]

Only a retard would nominate a retard or vote for a retard.
The issue here is not about retards or fools.
But if you asked me whether I prefer a well-meaning ordinary person who is not so educated or intelligent, or an extremely intelligent and highly educated person who is aiming for the position not to help the country and the people, I would choose the former anytime.

Interesting. Why is the "extremely intelligent and highly educated person" always the one "who is aiming for the position not to help the country and the people"? Ordinary people who haven't made it in life can be equally and certainly more selfish.

 

[Ramseth]

You are usually very coherent but I don't understand your first 2 statements at all and can barely understand the rest of the post.
Ok, let me try to understand and clarify.

If your point is that the opposition candidate has to be at least comparable to the pap candidate in terms of education, work experience and financial status to stand a chance at being elected, I agree to a certain extent.

My point is that even if he meets these criteria, it doesn't mean he will make a good opposition MP. All these factors actually have little relevance whether he can make the lives of Singaporeans better, which should be the ultimate and major objective of an MP.

Of course, part of this objective would include "taking care" or "looking after" the ward, including clearing the rubbish.

You've answered your own question. Scrutinise and measure the opposition to however high standard you hold. If s/he fails to meet that, the default is always PAP candidate without scrutinisation and measurement. Don't even bother whether about PAP MP is "looking after" or "taking care" as long as opposition says the wrong thing, vote PAP.

 

[jw5]

Interesting. Why is the "extremely intelligent and highly educated person" always the one "who is aiming for the position not to help the country and the people"? Ordinary people who haven't made it in life can be equally and certainly more selfish.

Of course you are right.
That's why I had 2 options and I chose 1.
It would be really easy if the 2 options had been the well meaning highly intelligent and well educated person and the evil fool, right?

 

[jw5]

You've answered your own question. Scrutinise and measure the opposition to however high standard you hold. If s/he fails to meet that, the default is always PAP candidate without scrutinisation and measurement. Don't even bother whether about PAP MP is "looking after" or "taking care" as long as opposition says the wrong thing, vote PAP.

I haven't "answered my own question", merely trying to understand your point.

Agree with you that many people assess candidates as you stated, but I don't.

 

[Ramseth]

I haven't "answered my own question", merely trying to understand your point.

Agree with you that many people assess candidates as you stated, but I don't.

Thanks. We're in agreement about "many people."

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

Which PAP minister got standard one?

Lim Swee Say? Oh please, his track record and gaffes speak volumes about this person. And look at his NTUC that has sold out the workers of Singapore and he is as good as a goner this coming GE.

Viviene? Hahaha. Can't even work within a budget and when he went over budget by almost 4 times he says that it was because they have never done such a thing before. in other words, the initial budget was done without any research or proper knowledge. This is the type of individual Viviene is.

Gan Kim Yong? Another sell out who has allowed hundreds of thousands of foreigners to fight for jobs with Singaporeans.

Mah Bow Tan? He doesn't even know what affordability is and worse yet, he almost single-handedly ensured that the majority of Singaporeans pensions are wiped out by the time they need their pensions the most. And the PAP thinks he is doing a good job. This alone should make you wonder what the hell is the PAP actually trying to achieve!

Shanmugaratnam? Can't even tell the truth without bringing more questions into play. And he is a lawyer. Either he is too lazy to come up with proper stories or his is really daft for thinking that Singaporeans are simpletons to take his crap at face value.

Khaw Boon Wan? Singapore as a country has spent the least in terms of per capita of GDP on healthcare for what I think is about over 20 years. Each of us pays a lot for our Medishield which inevitably means less spending by the government. But when we fall in, Medishield falls short. With this kind of health minister he should be in line as an undertaker!

Tharman? This guy was nothing more than a reported for the Business Times. Suddenly can become Minister of Finance. Even then he kenna overruled by gay loong on major issues and in full view of the public.

Wong Kan Seng? Ex-school teacher and HR Manager who oversay the Home Ministry for donkey years and who is solely responsible for the slack policing we have and the rise in juvenile crimes.

Gay Loong? In other countries his political career would have collapsed when he was found out for accepting discounts when purchasing a private property. The discount amounted to a few hundred thousand dollars. This guy is a millionaire many times over it is ridiculuos and yet he will stoop so low as to accept the discount. His other gaffes are too many to mention. The biggest flaw is that he is the PM. How incredible!

Ng Eng Hen? This is the guy who thinks he can control the price of oil! This is the guy responsible for opening the foreign talent floodgates. For goodness sake his specialty is pinching nipples!

Baey? Wah liao! This guy only one degree one and can become so tok kong without having achieved anything substantive in his life.

So which PAP minister is actually able to do his job let alone do a job FOR YOU!