Definitely not me. SDP is indeed shameless to make use of JBJ to increase the turnout.
JBJ was never a SDP member or even a supporter in the first place. Typical Chee style, I would say.
Locke
Definitely not me. SDP is indeed shameless to make use of JBJ to increase the turnout.
JBJ was never a SDP member or even a supporter in the first place. Typical Chee style, I would say.
Locke
JBJ and CSJ set up the Open Singapore Centre when PAP-funded Low staged the ouster of JBJ from WP.
I wonder if any proof could be provided about the "PAP-funded Low" part.
It's not for nothing that Low is "paid" close to $250,000 a year by the fascist PAP.
Now, we have in WP, leaders claiming to contest against the prime minister but voting for the very PAP in the sham elections
rating LKY's kangaroo judiciary world class when even the IBA condemns it.
Can it be ascertained that this "$250,000" comes from the PAP funds? Although I am aware that the PAP distinguishes very little between "party" and "government" but personally, I don't desire to follow suit.
One who is an opposition candidate may also be a voter. In Singapore's context, the PAP is everywhere but not necessarily the party of that opposition candidate.
I feel that as long as it does not involve the opposition candidate's party, he is free to vote for anyone he wants. To me, like it or not, no one can assume that opposition parties are "friends" just because the PAP is dominant.
Apologies but I have not encountered a happening of this nature anywhere on the internet.
LKY is in power for close to half a century. He himself has admitted that every institution of government has been brought under to serve the interests of his regime. The puppet parliament with its approved opposition as decorative vases is no exception. LKY's incompetent son LHL sitting as PM is also no exception.
LKY and his daughter-in-law control our reserves without accountability and transparency. The kangaroo judiciary and the 154th ranked media remain castrated.
There is no independent elections commission but only a department taking orders from LKY and his son that conducts elections to "fix" the opposition and "engineer" election results. Only PAP-approved opposition is allowed to pass through LKY, the gatekeeper of puppet parliament.
The IBA questioned Singapore's judiciary in a lengthy report but the PAP-funded and approved WP holds LKY's kangaroo judiciary in high esteem.
I am afraid to say this, again, are many "generalising" statements without substantiation. I hate to defend LKY but even then, I do not recall him ever saying that "every institution of government has been brought under to serve the interests of my regime" or the likes.
Can't disagree with that.
I guess if you believe that the votes are rigged, ballot-stuffed or whatever may be, that is where we differ and our opinions irreconcilable. I respect that. The only mystery is that Mr JBJ, one of your "idols" ironically, shares my beliefs - that elections are still winnable, albeit made difficult by some of the "obstructions" you have raised.
This would be my 2nd asking but I wonder if there is any evidence that the WP "held the courts in high esteem" or the likes.
There's no generalization. Even the People's Association, a statutory body funded by the taxpayers, is in total control of LKY's PAP and off limit for the opposition, even to those so-called elected opposition MPs. SPH is headed by a former deputy prime minister and staffed by ISD operatives to make sure that only PAP propaganda reaches the people.
Why must a department, coming under the PMO, hold the GE? Why can't we have an independent elections commission? Is this too much to ask?
The point is why must elections be "made difficult"? Even JBJ, after winning the Anson seat with increased majority for the second time, was thrown out of parliament thru a "series of mistrials" in LKY's kangaroo courts. The puppet parliament only accommodates PAP-funded and approved charlatans and fakes masquerading as opposition and getting "paid" close to $250,000 a year.
It was at the IBA meeting last year in Singapore, a WP leader lauded LKY's judiciary as world class. Later, in a lengthy report the IBA lambasted Singapore's judiciary. All these are well documented. A simple google will show this.
I wonder if any proof could be provided about the "PAP-funded Low" part.
One who is an opposition candidate may also be a voter. In Singapore's context, the PAP is everywhere but not necessarily the party of that opposition candidate.
I feel that as long as it does not involve the opposition candidate's party, he is free to vote for anyone he wants. To me, like it or not, no one can assume that opposition parties are "friends" just because the PAP is dominant.
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is chee is being funded by foreign force?
Sorry but I gotta to take issue with you on this one Bro. Yaw Shin Leong was publicly canvassing the electorate to vote for him/WP against the PAPs while at the sametime publicly endorsing PAP Teo Ho Pin with his vote, thereby implicitly endorsing PAP at the sametime. Approbate and reprobate at the sametime
I think the points that I had referred to as "generalisation" has shifted away, from whether opposition is paid by PAP funds to LKY's non-existent quote to something on PAP's control. Albeit this "shifting", I haven't found the responses I had hoped for, if I may.
Truly, I was hoping to be converted from one point of opposition to another and that failed to manifest.
That, I do not dispute.
I believe there is no need for me to ask the same questions again. The only new point was that JBJ was "thrown out" of Anson. This is known by everyone but in terms of "paid" (which I do not know why inverted commas are now added), Mr JBJ also had received MP allowance and I do not recall any opposition candidate denouncing or giving up the allowance if they are elected or were elected.
I would like to add that government money is taxpayers' money and am glad to learn that I am in a way helping to fund opposition MPs by elected more of them.
To carry it to the extreme, I would skip my income taxes, drive through ERP without cashcards and refuse to pay fines thereafter if I think everything is defined as "PAP money".
Perhaps I am poor at googling, for in the 3rd attempt for answers, the only google results showed a comment in a blog, which said the same thing without any links to sources.
http://nofearsingapore.blogspot.com/2008/07/questions-for-workers-party.html
I think this discussion is going nowhere but anyway, thank you for your time and effort in responding.