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Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over again

Char_Azn

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People need to take a step back and think about it. Just look at the current opposition parties. Look what happen last few decades. The late JBJ left the Worker's Party and form the Reform Party. Chiam left the Singapore Democratic Party and form the Singapore People's Party(SPP) later merging it with a few smaller parties into Singapore Democratic Alliance(SDA). He was forced out of SDA earlier this year and now SPP is a standalone party. The National Solidarity Party(NSP) which used to contest under the banner of SDA also left and is now contesting on its own. Just last year another band of jokers form a party called Barisan Socialis instead of joining one of the more establish parties.

We're not talking really huge parties that are splitting up, we're talking about small parties barely able to find enough capable pple to form a single GRC team. Just to put it into perspective, if PAP were to break up into 3 equally sized party, those would still be freaking bigger then all of them. You would think it's a good idea for small parties to band together and form a coalition against the almighty PAP. Instead of doing that, these jokers split themselves into even smaller parties!!!!!

On top of that, within the same party, they can't even agree with one another. the number of defections this year alone is mind boggling. 9 members of the RP team left and joined NSP. Alec Tok also from RP left the party just this month. Goh Meng Seng, from the WP team that almost won at Aljunied left to join NSP. James Gomez, also from the same team left to join SDP. And those are only the tip of the Iceberg!!!!!


This is why I kept saying a 3 corner fight is not a bad thing, why I kept saying we need to spoil our votes if the opposition party or candidate is bullshit.

Vote wisely, we need to stop all these nonsense. If the opposition cannot do it themselves, let us do it for them!!!! Don't let your hatred for the ruling party blind you from making the right decision. If the opposition parties send jokers or the parties like SDP, SDA or RP which itself is a joke. Do not vote for them. If you refuse to vote PAP, spoil your vote. Let your vote tell them that we will not stand for this nonsense. At the same time support parties like WP and NSP whom are trying to make something of themselves if you want an alternative voice. Give them a GRC or SMC, let them prove themselves in Parliament. We need to stop this stupid nonsense of opposition self destructing!!!!! If we don't do it now, it will never happen and we can look forward to more of the same again!!!!!

It's also nice to know that even the experts agree that WP, NSP and SPP are the more decent parties.
 

youtalkcock

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

If you refuse to vote PAP, spoil your vote. Let your vote tell them that we will not stand for this nonsense.
It's also nice to know that even the experts agree that WP, NSP and SPP are the more decent parties.

:biggrin: Where is that clear ass? :biggrin:
 

dankos

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

Cb pap dog telling people to spoil their vote instead of voting for oppo again. Fuck u.. I really look down on dogs and eunuchs like u.
 

silverfox@

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

I was thinking why everyone calls you a PAP dog.

You are juxtaposing previous opposition standards to current opposition standards which in today's context is of no relevance.

I do not want to bring my level down to calling you names but I believe you are here for a reason. You are here for the sole reason of discrediting the opposition.

Do not. I repeat. DO NOT SPOIL YOUR VOTES
 

Char_Azn

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

Am I? Let's not look at ancient history and just look at what happened since 06. SPP and NSP both split from SDA. You can argue that NSP was never really a part of SDP but not SPP. RP split from WP. How much smaller do U want them to get before u are staisfield?

What about the candidates? How many of them have defected all around the place just this year alone. And most of them involve many of the new candidates. They are in no way immune from my accusations. I want to see the opposition grow as much as eveyrone in here however I do not want to see the idiots and the jokers prosper. At the end of the day it will bring all of them down. Rather then have 1 whole bunch of mini parties around, we need to help the strong ones grow stronger and eliminate the weaker ones. If we do not do that, mark my words, 20 years from now we will still be in the same place
 
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dankos

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

Am I? . At the end of the day it will bring all of them down. Rather then have 1 whole bunch of mini parties around, we need to help the strong ones grow stronger and eliminate the weaker ones. If we do not do that, mark my words, 20 years from now we will still be in the same place

CB pap dog,

mark my words. 20 years from now your job designation with pap is STILL internet por lumpar cocksucker. you can never go beyond the limit. why? u r simply too stupid. even grassloot leader appointment is out of your league.
 

Char_Azn

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

Grassroot leader appointment is out of my league coz I never got myself involved in grassroot activities
 

dankos

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

Rather then have 1 whole bunch of mini parties around, we need to help the strong ones grow stronger and eliminate the weaker ones. If we do not do that, mark my words, 20 years from now we will still be in the same place

CB pap dog,

your idea of 'helping' opposition party grow is to kill them off when they are still weak. fuck u.
 

dankos

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

Grassroot leader appointment is out of my league coz I never got myself involved in grassroot activities

CB pap dog,

now u only low and junior enough to get involved as pap internet watchdog mah. :biggrin:
 

Forvendet

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

I agree with most of what Cunha except for NSP. I won't vote for parties that accept partyhoppers at the snap of a finger. That includes NSP and SDP. Look at your desktop screen. There's a little icon called Recycled Bin. That's what they are. I'd rather spoil my vote and click Empty Recycled Bin. Fortunately, I live in B-TP and it's confirmed SPP standing here with CST leading the team. CST is not a partyhopper. He was unceremoniously couped and ousted from his party.
 

Char_Azn

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

BTW U guy also totally miss the point. If the strongest party themselves doesn't get elected. The above situation will be a total waste of time. Right now easily the strongest party would be WP, among all the other parties, SDP and NSP probably stand out more. SPP just broken out of SDA both would have been weaken significantly. RP I don't even need to talk about it, it's amazing they even have enough pple to contest at all

However, of all the above, WP is the most likely to be able to win any seats, with NSP and SPP coming close. Which is why I urge pple to support them. Take a step back and think about it. If assuming the best case scenario, all of them wins a seat and in the next election they did as the political analyst stated seat down among themselves and split the contested wards between themselves, it is unlikely that any of the losing parties this term will challenge them in wards they choose to contest in giving them a better change of getting re-elected or winning a new ward.

If the above scenario doesn't take place, they'll end up doing what they are doing this term again. Do I even need to remind some of you guys how emotional some of you got when speaking about potential 3 cornered fights and fighting among themselves to resolve the issue?
 

dankos

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

CB pap dog,

now oppo has largely avoided 3 cornered fights, u start to encourage ppl to spoit their votes if WP never go there. :oIo::oIo:
 

Char_Azn

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

WP, SPP and NSP. That means I am only against SDP, RP and SDA. SDP reputation I think everyone knows I dont need to elaborate. RP have become a joke thanks to recent defections and SDA is a joke after they kicked out Chiam. Do U seriously want these pple still sitting at the table next election and fight over who to go where?
 

fukyuman

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

I remember this kiddie song. "Huckleberry hound (howl chorus), you know when he is around (howl chorus), he makes a happy sound (how chorus)" every time I hear political pundits with no credibility.
 
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depeche

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

WP, SPP and NSP. That means I am only against SDP, RP and SDA. SDP reputation I think everyone knows I dont need to elaborate. RP have become a joke thanks to recent defections and SDA is a joke after they kicked out Chiam. Do U seriously want these pple still sitting at the table next election and fight over who to go where?

Yes,Yes, yes...the more opposition in the parliment the better...it makes the PAPpy Listen, especially the LEE clan!
 

Bigfuck

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

We are already in the same place over and over again. So let us change the scenery for once, even if it is the same place over and over again and spread the millions in salaries to other fellow Singaporeans. Why? Cannot meh? I cannot stand that HEN MP taking the millions which I contribute. I want to give it someone else but him, cannot meh? I cannot vote the way I want meh? Your vote or my vote? Your CPF or my CPF? Your country or my country? Wake up your bloody fucking corrupt idea. Remember, this is the same party that sold off Christmas Island for peanuts.
 

LeMans2011

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Who's this Cunha? Sounded like a dumbfucked. All textbook regurgitation.
 

ah_phah

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Re: Why the opposition are weak and why we end up in the same place over and over aga

factually, the opposition isnt weak, neither is the miw strong. few possible reasons the incumbent keeps winning:

1. ignorant voters believe they'd be victimized if they vote for opposition
2. ignorant voters (civil career) believe they'd break their iron rice bowls
3. ignorant voters believe they'd be "fixed" if they vote for opposition
4. ignorant voters believe there is no secrecy in the voting system
5. ignorant voters put the cross on the incumbent, believing that 'X' is the mark of disapproval
 
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