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Why the Biblical Concept of Origin Sin is Wrong!

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Adam eating the apple marks the beginning of dualism.... Prior to that, there was no good or bad, tall or short, big or small.

The silliest and most stupid part about the writer that wrote the story is that Eve did not have the knowledge of Good and Bad before eating the apple.
How can she be faulted for eating the apple when she did not have that knowledge in the first place. The person that awarded the punishment also looked dumb.
 

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spudmania,
Look at the sex related scandals that hit the headlines one after another, woman is responsibility for the downfall of some high position men.

The latest Asean NUS scholar from Malaysia is the only successfully story where a woman has helped man to gain stardom in a scandal.

Not to mention the wars started because of woman. Are the women to blame or the foolishness of man?
 

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Rethinking Who Gets the Blame for Original Sin—Adam or Eve?

Another school of thought:

Adam was created first from the dust of the ground, and Eve was created from a rib taken from Adam’s side. From these verses and others in Genesis 1–3 it is clear that the husband was created to be the leader in the marital relationship and that the wife was created to be the helper. Adam, as the leader of the family, was held responsible, not only for his own sin of eating from the tree, but also because he did not provide adequate protection for his wife, allowing her to sin.
 

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From the very beginning, God have taught man to fear him more than to love him. Even in eden, there are laws and consequences. xtianity is a God fearing religion and never God loving.

and the idea of duality on started after adam & eve were banished from eden is contradicting as well. because if God is the creator of all, why did he create a group of angels that will rebel against him? some explain that satan's existence is to create the duality of good and evil, then why did satan rebelled before adam ate the apple? again some explained that God turn an arch-angel evil in order to tempt adam. now unlike man, angels are created without free will. angels just follow instructions. if so it was God that turned satan evil and God instructed satan to tempt adam. and God being the all-knowing and knew that adam will eat the apple or else God's little experiment with satan would have failed and God never fails. If God failed in the temptation of adam, then satan will be screwed as he will be left with no purpose. and as predicted, adam failed just as God had already known. THEN WHY THE F**K DOES GOD HAVE TO DO ALL THESE JUST WHEN HE ALREADY KNEW! God so free nothing else better to do!
 

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This is another intellectual error from the Holy(?) Bible again!
The all-knowing God is merely human injected quality that YHWH displayed.

Christianic God, not the real God. How can the real God be so free, irrationale, illogical and unreasonable?

Guess the intellectual level of the ancient tribe that wrote the story of God?
 

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Ecclesiasticus, 25:18, 19 & 33: And a man will choose…any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman…Sin began with a woman and thanks to her we all must die

Haha, only blind believers would take crap as truth to attain salvation.
 

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Ecclesiastes 7:26: And I find more bitter than death the woman whose heart is snares and nets, whose hands are fetters. He who pleases God shall escape from her, but the sinner shall be trapped by her.

The catholic priests and GAYS satisfied the criteria! The rest of the male xtians?

Throw this verse at the homophonic xtians, what would be the reaction?
 
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In many protestant denominations WOMAN cannot be ministers or have any positions of leadership in the church.
 

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Ecclesiasticus, 25:18, 19 & 33: And a man will choose…any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman…Sin began with a woman and thanks to her we all must die
 

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Biblical Adam & Eve Plagiarized Ancient Egyptian Creation Story

For millions of years, mankind has been on this planet, but you wouldn’t know this if you stuck strictly with the story of Adam and Eve from the Bible. Fortunately for me, I’ve always had a keen interest in ancient history. Therefore, I knew the earth was older than the Bible’s Adam and Eve story, which I’ve recently found out, was a plagiarized story from the Egyptian creation story. I’m talking about writings that predate actual Biblical figures. Writings that is as ancient as possibly 36,000 years. These writings are engraved in stone, which go back to the First Earth Age. We’re in the Second Earth Age or possibly the Third Earth Age. I still believe God created a man in His own image and after His own likeness, but what if this particular man that God created was not the Adam of the Bible? What if he was another man created in the likeness of God, because it is obvious that the story of the Egyptian god called Atum and the Egyptian goddess called Tefnut was copied by Biblical writers, and then turned into the Adam/Eve creation version?

In addition, the Bible does state that Adam was created in the image and likeness of God which means Adam was an exact replica of the Creator and this, in turn, would make him a god like Atum. There are African writings, which are the first systems of writing that depict the story of God who looks like a black man. Based on historical evidence, the Adam and Eve story was plagiarized from the ancient writings of Egypt’s creation story, which historians have termed as mythological stories. But these stories are actual documented history, which the Egyptians were very good at keeping.

Author Charles N. Pope writes, “In the mythology of ancient Egypt, the god who arrived first on the Earth was called Atum, signifying “Totality.” Atum, as with Biblical Adam, was naked and required a civilizing influence. “The loincloth given to Atum served less to clothe him, in the strict sense of the word, than to permit him to manifest his royalty by means of a specific garment.” One cannot help but compare the royal undergarment of Atum with the fig leaf loincloth made for Biblical Adam. In the Egyptian creation story, the first goddess, Tefnut, was said to come forth out of Atum. One of her Mesopotamian nicknames was Nin-ti, meaning “Lady Life,” or “The Lady (Who Makes) Live.” S.N. Kramer states that ti is also the Sumerian word for “rib,” therefore Nin-ti could variously be interpreted as “the Lady of the Rib.” In the Bible, Eve is of course formed from the rib of Adam.” The Egyptians believed the Creator was a benevolent being who exacted mercy as well as judgment upon His creation. The Bible has this same concept of God. In addition, the Egyptian monotheistic system mirrors that of Christianity and Judaism. Of course the Egyptian cultural civilization has been demonized for so long until it is hard to tell truth from fiction. In their writings, the Egyptians would use anthropomorphic characters to represent the different attributes of nature, but yet the story goes that the Egyptians worshipped different types of deities represented by the anthropomorphic characters, which is something I also believed at first until I did further research on ancient civilizations. This is when I realized that the ancient Egyptians actually had a monotheistic system of the worship of one God. In fact, much of the Biblical stories have been plagiarized from ancient Egyptian writings and history.

Written by Alberta Parish
 

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Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy and Eastern Catholicism acknowledge that the introduction of ancestral sin into the human race affected the subsequent environment for mankind. The act of Adam is not the responsibility of all humanity, but the consequences of that act changed the reality of this present age of the cosmos. The Greek Fathers emphasized the metaphysical dimension of the Fall of Man, whereby Adam's descendants are born into a fallen world, but at the same time held fast to belief that, in spite of that, man remains free.
 

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Some Christians believe that original sin explains why there is so much wrong in a world created by a perfect God, and why people need to have their souls 'saved' by God.

It's god's plan.
 

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Even a newborn baby who hasn't done anything at all is damaged by original sin.

Do you want you own children and future generation to bear that?

Think, think and do reasoning...
 

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Original sin affects individuals by separating them from God, and bringing dissatisfaction and guilt into their lives.

On a world scale, original sin explains such things as genocide, war, cruelty, exploitation and abuse, and the "presence and universality of sin in human history".

In a nutshell, the bible is the tree of wisdom. No point wasting time and money pursuing other knowledges like Science, Sociology, Psychology and History.
 

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Jesus Christ died on the cross to redeem their sins.

If this is true, it should be effective. All Sins should already be redeemed.
 
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