Why GRC not Single Minority Constituency?

[fivestars]

Single Minority Constituency is more reasonable than GRC or so call vote for Minister to get a bunch of rambutan not Tanjung Rambutan or Tampoi or Woodbridge.

Group representation constituencies

39A. —(1) The Legislature may, in order to ensure the representation in Parliament of Members from the Malay, Indian and other minority communities, by law make provision for —

(a) any constituency to be declared by the President, having regard to the number of electors in that constituency, as a group representation constituency to enable any election in that constituency to be held on a basis of a group of not less than 3 but not more than 6 candidates; and

(b) the qualifications, in addition to those in Article 44, of persons who may be eligible for any election in group representation constituencies, including the requirements referred to in clause (2).

(2) Any law made under clause (1) shall provide for —

(a) the President to designate every group representation constituency —

(i) as a constituency where at least one of the candidates in every group shall be a person belonging to the Malay community; or

(ii) as a constituency where at least one of the candidates in every group shall be a person belonging to the Indian or other minority communities;

(b) the establishment of —

(i) a committee to determine whether a person desiring to be a candidate belongs to the Malay community; and

(ii) a committee to determine whether a person desiring to be a candidate belongs to the Indian or other minority communities,

for the purpose of any election in group representation constituencies;

(c) all the candidates in every group to be either members of the same political party standing for election for that political party or independent candidates standing as a group;

(d) the minimum and maximum number of Members to be returned by all group representation constituencies at a general election; and

(e) the number of group representation constituencies to be designated under paragraph (a) (i).

(3) No provision of any law made pursuant to this Article shall be invalid on the ground of inconsistency with Article 12 or be considered to be a differentiating measure under Article 78.

(4) In this Article —

"election" means an election for the purpose of electing a Member of Parliament;

"group" means a group of not less than 3 but not more than 6 candidates nominated for any election in any group representation constituency;

"person belonging to the Malay community" means any person, whether of the Malay race or otherwise, who considers himself to be a member of the Malay community and who is generally accepted as a member of the Malay community by that community;

"person belonging to the Indian or other minority communities" means any person of Indian origin who considers himself to be a member of the Indian community and who is generally accepted as a member of the Indian community by that community, or any person who belongs to any minority community other than the Malay or Indian community.

 

[Sideswipe]

what should be done is - Parliament should reserve 10 MPs seats for Malays and 6 seats for Indians to be elected by their respective communities.

Most countries with minorities practice the reserved seats concepts.

Our Malays and Indians leaders are the biggest betrayers of their communities. They happily embrace the GRC concepts but refuse to demand for reserved seats in parliament.

Any Malays and Indians MPs who are elected by their own peoples will fight more fiercely for their own rights.

 

[fivestars]

But PAP need a Malay Muslim Minister to incharge Muslim Affairs.

The pay for NMP or reserve MP are very low.

But you are right, many of my friends told me too.

 

[BlueCat]

if reserve the seats,then it is no longer democratic.
GRC actually is just another excuse by PAP to ensure that they get the majorities in an election. Cos till now,the opposition just do not have enough credible and good candidates to go around. The opposition just only concentrate on those single consistency.
so i am afraid it will still be about 10-20 years before we can at least have a noticable number of opposition in our parliament.

 

[Sideswipe]

This is not democratic or not.
It is a fact that minorities will find it hard to win in a election against a majority ethnic race candidate. It's not belittling them but we must reserve seats in parliament for our minorities like what ROC, New Zealand and others have done for decades.

If I am a Malay, I want to chose my own MPs through a list of Malay candidates rather than though a GRC. The former offer more choices. and if I am a Malay MP, I will be prouder knowing that I am truly elected by my own peoples.

 

[fivestars]

New Zealand has a single-chambered (unicameral) parliament. In New Zealand, Member of Parliament is the term for a member of the New Zealand House of Representatives, although parliament technically consists of both the House and the Queen. The New Zealand House of Representatives normally has 120 MPs, elected every three years. There are 69 electorate (constituency) MPs,

7 of whom are elected by Māori who have chosen to vote in special Māori seats.

The remaining 51 MPs are elected from party lists. As of 2008, the speaker of the house is Lockwood Smith.

Before 1951, New Zealand had a two-chambered (bicameral) parliament, and there were two designations — MHR (Member of the House of Representatives, the body which survives today) and MLC (Member of the Legislative Council).

 

[fivestars]

In Singapore, Members of Parliament refers to elected members of the Parliament of Singapore, the appointed Non-Constituency Members of Parliament from the opposition, as well as the Nominated Members of Parliament, who may be appointed from members of the public who have no connection to any political party in Singapore.

 

[yellow_people]

It is a fact that minorities will find it hard to win in a election against a majority ethnic race candidate. It's not belittling them but we must reserve seats in parliament for our minorities like what ROC, New Zealand and others have done for decades.

JBJ stood in Chink dominated Anson and became the first opposition candidate since since 1955 to defeated a PAP candidate. So why should the minorities find it hard against the majority chinks?

If I am a Malay, I want to chose my own MPs through a list of Malay candidates rather than though a GRC. The former offer more choices. and if I am a Malay MP, I will be prouder knowing that I am truly elected by my own peoples.

I suspect this concern over the Malay or even Indian (for that matter) parliamentary representation is actually a SMOKESCREEN for the REAL issue - The Chinks are having trouble finding minority candidates to contest the GRCs. Its crystal clear without minority representation for some opposition parties they will not be able to even field a team to contest GRCs regardless of how many Chink candidates they may have.

Some of the opposition parties like the NSP and WP are starting to look more like a Communist Political party rather than a Singapore multi racial political party.

Take a look at the WP's Executive Council here:

http://www.wp.sg/wordpress/our-organisation/executive-council/

Out of 14 members there is only 1 Malay and zero Indians.

Dr Syed Alwi is absolutely right. The Chinks will never be able to take a GRC without the Malay support. Indians feel that way too.

 

[wizard]

bascially GRC is for MP who do not dare to take the (baptism of fire- as quoted by LKY, but later he discover his candidate cannot take the heat). So hide behind Ministers then go in paliment. Of course there is a price to be paid. YES man for the rest of his life.

No respect for them.....

At least Bukit Panjang fight 1-1 head on....

You see those go by back door..

DIE - heart attack
Kana slap, thrown thing at ..

Deserve it.

 

[scroobal]

Having minority candidates is the fastest way to polarise the country. Immediately Chinese as a majority and with a majority of seats for Chinese will be firmly and formally entrenched. The concept of Singaporeans as a plural nation and people with a common identity will be lost forever.

The minorities mentioned in NZ and some other countries refer to natives and not minorities per se.

It is the PAP that came out with the concept of GRC on the basis that minorities are unelectable. Don't buy into their bullshit. Minority candidates have been elected in many countries where the electrorate is predominently a different race.

If Singapore reaches a common identity, there should not be a problem electing anyone who is a singaporean.

Learn not to play in the sandbox that the PAP builds.

 

[scroobal]

I suspect this concern over the Malay or even Indian (for that matter) parliamentary representation is actually a SMOKESCREEN for the REAL issue - The Chinks are having trouble finding minority candidates to contest the GRCs. Its crystal clear without minority representation for some opposition parties they will not be able to even field a team to contest GRCs regardless of how many Chink candidates they may have.

Some of the opposition parties like the NSP and WP are starting to look more like a Communist Political party rather than a Singapore multi racial political party.

Take a look at the WP's Executive Council here:

GRC was conceived as an obstacle in the main. Your points interestingly are becoming a reality, something they did not expect. By creating GRC, they created race politics in a formal way and its coming home to roost. The racial divide will now be more pronounced than ever.

Your points on NSP and WP are interesting. NSP is slowly but surely painting itself into a corner.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Oh dear...:p:p:p

Some of the opposition parties like the NSP and WP are starting to look more like a Communist Political party rather than a Singapore multi racial political party.

Take a look at the WP's Executive Council here:

http://www.wp.sg/wordpress/our-organisation/executive-council/

Out of 14 members there is only 1 Malay and zero Indians.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Serves LKY bloody well right and so too all those 'uncle tom' PAP minorities.

GRC was conceived as an obstacle in the main. Your points interestingly are becoming a reality, something they did not expect. By creating GRC, they created race politics in a formal way and its coming home to roost. The racial divide will now be more pronounced than ever.

 

[Perspective]

GRC was conceived as an obstacle in the main. Your points interestingly are becoming a reality, something they did not expect. By creating GRC, they created race politics in a formal way and its coming home to roost. The racial divide will now be more pronounced than ever.

I think minorities are the ones who would paint themselves in a corner if they do not stand up despite any dissatisfaction. Opposition parties are after all dispensable "items".

Minorities are usually more vocal than the majority race in other countries but Singapore appears to be the opposite and they decline to add to their representation. I think it ends up giving the PAP more justifications in having the GRCs around.

 

[Sideswipe]

JBJ stood in Chink dominated Anson and became the first opposition candidate since since 1955 to defeated a PAP candidate. So why should the minorities find it hard against the majority chinks?

Some of the opposition parties like the NSP and WP are starting to look more like a Communist Political party rather than a Singapore multi racial political party.

Dr Syed Alwi is absolutely right. The Chinks will never be able to take a GRC without the Malay support. Indians feel that way too.

minorities will find it hard. That is a fact. JBJ was an exception.

But PAP ideas for minorities representation through GRC are completely wrong. Parliament should reserve 15% of seats for minorities and of course our Malays/Indians are free to fight their way to parliament through the nationwide elections too.

This is a free world. If SDP and RP want to have 15 Indians, no Chinese and Malays in their Executive Council. They are free to do so. Our votes every GE will dictate the political parties further direction.

 

[fivestars]

The Central Executive Committee (CEC) governs the party. Its members are elected by the Party's cadre members at the Ordinary Party Conference held biennially. The present CEC comprises of:



Gandhi Ambalam

Chairman


Francis Yong

Vice Chairman


Chee Soon Juan

Secretary-General



John Tan

Asst Secretary-General


Hoe Poh Fatt

Treasurer


Jeffrey George

Asst Treasurer



Mohd Isa

Member


Chee Siok Chin

Member


Lawrence Lai

Member



Gerald Sng

Member


Lilian Chia

Member


Michael Hwang

Member

 

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