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Chitchat What are the chances of USA and N Korea getting it on?

Discussion in 'The Courtyard Café' started by JHolmesJr, Sep 6, 2017.

  1. JHolmesJr

    JHolmesJr Alfrescian Old Timer

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    I would say we might see some heavy action soon…what say the forum?
     
  2. Agoraphobic

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    I think most people in the world have had it with fatso Kim by now and are waiting for Trump to give the greenlight to the US military to nuke North Korea to shreds. Or even a conventional war would satisfy many people. Fatso's North Korea won't stand a ghost of a chance with the American military buildup now encircling his nation. But Trump is hesitant because he can't risk the massive "collateral damage" war would bring about. US is in a dilemma. Not attacking would make them look weak and useless in the face of all that tormenting and taunting from fatso. Attacking would bring about much destruction, to innocent lives. So he is stuck in a rut, quite helpless. In the meantime, Texas is troubled at home and needs his attention. And nobody feel sorry for he most powerful man on Earth. Not funny to be wearing his shoes at this time.

    Cheers!

     
  3. Semaj2357

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    about time, i'd say.... game on pse!
     
  4. Agoraphobic

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    But I would like to see the US deploy the new F-35s and bomb the shit out of Pyongang, and the B-1Bs too! After that, capture fatso and parade him in public an let his citizens mock and spit on him. They deserve that for all the misery he's forced on them.

    Cheers!
     
  5. Semaj2357

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    agree absolutely, short of having an implosion ala arab spring, it's about time to yield a big stick on kurang ajar fatso's arse. no point prolonging the agony for something that's inevitable, minimal collateral damage hopefully, notwithstanding :cool:
     
  6. 3_M

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    On the contrary possibility is getting slimmer by the day as nk nuclear capacity improve. No 2 nuclear powers will fight even conventional war because it might eventually escalate into nuclear conflict that result in mutual destruction.
     
  7. 我戳你个妈

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    I will say only about the final out come.

    USA will lost it foothold in Asia including Singapore certainly.

    NK is only the surface phenomena and triggering factor. The Primary Factor is USA itself rotting weakening and dying off, not just due to Trump. This IS the inevitable outcome and it's superpower status is unable to retain, it allies are all dying and weakening together so the will be NO MORE FOOTHOLD sustained in Asia for USA.

    The Secondary Factor is PRC & Russia, not only strengthening and developing rapidly, they are collaborating closely and INCREASINGLY INTOLERANT of US presence and position in Asia. They HAVE exactly the power and strength and resolve to OUST USA together and their SOLID FOUNDATION is way more than Sufficient to reach this goal of ousting USA from Asia & plus Take Over as the next Dominance Superpower. This is an inevitable outcome.

    NK is the smallest factor in this game actually, but it CREATED PERFECT Opportunity for Russian & PRC, which Moscow & Beijing are fully taking advantages of.

    The part 1 of the net result is South Korea will be eaten by North, by their own strength and with the subtlety hidden assistance of Chinese and Russian. And this outcome is both inevitable and to the advantage of Russian & Chinese, which I will explain later.

    The Part 2 is Japan will also lost the so called Protection Umbrella of USA, but unlike Kim Chi South Korea, Pyongyang will not occupy them, but it have no more choice and bow down kneeling before Moscow & Beijing just alike what an obedient dog it had been submitting to USA all these years since it's surrender to USA in WW2. The significant change is that Japs have to serve 2 new bosses instead of 1 USA.

    The Part 3 is Singapore will also the so called Protection Umbrella of USA, but completely instable unlike Japan. When Chinese and Russian see their opponent USA lost the power and strength capable of holding oversea bases in Asia (more generally GLOBAL as in even EU & Middle East) by suffering a Global Strategic Defeat, Financial Deprivation, budget cut, military strength lost and humiliation suffered, Washington will be forced to CUT & CLOSE oversea bases almost completely, definitely including Singapore. When Chinese & Russian achieved this stage, they will NOT TAKEOVER bases such as Singapore - contrary to your expectations! Because it is UNNECESSARY. Chinese & Russian does not really need to deploy nor protect nor uphold any ex-USA bases - simply because there is NOT NEED to, as USA is out, there is no other global opponents capable of holding these bases to Choke Hold nor Threaten nor Challenge the dominance of Russian - Chinese alliance at all. They will have all free passage and whatever remains in this world are all insignificant to Choke Hold any Strategic routes to hinder Chinese - Russian interest. If Chinese Russian wanted somewhere to refuel or resupply, Singapore will NEVER be the only port willing to do that, and they have endless choices to pick from - as long as there is no USA to fuck around any more.
     
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    China and US requires the NK to be the buffer. Removal of buffer causes great uncertainty for both parties and their associates. When push comes to shove, China will remove and replace Young Kim so it goes back to the status quo.

    The back channel between the US and China will work out details such as the removal of THAAD.

    The World at a time of Alibaba, Apple, Amazon, Samsung, Toyota, Jack Ma, Jeff Bezos etc and the economies of both countries and their associates cannot and will not give up the momentum because of one juvenile twit.

    Like it or not, China is a superpower and they will decide who sacrifices the pawn in their own backyard and the World order requires it. The US and Russia will expect and respect that of China.

    Lil Kim pushing the button on a fully armed missile will be the last act he will do as he will not see his fingers again. And it be China that will have his fingers.

    If you know how triads operates this will resonate.

    That's realpolitik.


     
  9. 我戳你个妈

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    You are stuck in a very old status quo mindset.

    Chinese strategy will not be such to keep themselves in a long tug of war with USA or using Korean peninsular as a buffer, this is called long term instability and draining of resources, mutually harmful.

    Chinese must see the USA lost Global Advantage and cease to challenge completely. Just like after WW2, USA see Japan & German belly up, and UK also belly up and completely incapable of challenging it's superpower status, or more significantly, like the ex-USSR in end of Cold War, that USA disintegrated into dozen of inter-conflicting small countries - fucking each other. This is the ONLY STABLE WAY for EVERY NEW SUPERPOWER.

    Tug Of War for what?

    NK is a small country and even a unified Korea is smaller than even Japan. China will put Kim Jong Loong under 1B1R partner and give him more than what Duterte had got.

    India is the one that Chinese will fix after fixing USA. If Ah Neh is not cooked and cannibalized it will be a long term nuisance to Beijing.
     
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    prc has already lost leverage with nk, after their security apparatus uncovered jst's plot to dethrone un and replace him with nam. jst was envious of the prc, a commie cuntry that surpassed japan and germany and can challenge the u.s. in economic power. he thought nk should follow prc's footsteps and open itself up to the world. but the newly installed fatboy was in the way of economic progress and he plotted to unseat him. however to appease some genetals he had to find a dynastic replacement, but that person was residing in beijing as a free spirit. arrangements were made to get in touch with nam, and it was sniffed out by those staunchly behind un. they even leaked the (fake) news that nam met up with a cia korean agent. that was false. that agent worked for jst, an nk operative. jst informed hu and wen, then leaders of prc, of the plot to get prc support. the coup was supposed to happen early in un's reign and the prc was supposed to be prepared for a change in regime, providing aid if it succeeded. unfortunately, it was uncovered before the coup took place as some generals chickened out at the last minute. there was a long period of silence from nk in the ensuing months with the sudden disapperance of un, followed by purges of top ranking brass. foreign intell thought un was either killed or deposed, but he was bunkered in safety while arrests and purges took place. after that, all dialogue with prc ceased and prc was left in the lurch with no insider track in nk as jst and his gang were executed one by one. nam had security detail and protection from the prc in beijing but he made the fatal error of travelling outside his safe zone to meet friends (and his secret family). prc cannot recover from this failed coup attempt in their relationship with nk unless un is eliminated.
     
  11. 我戳你个妈

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    I say even PRC will revert back to NK style communism after fixing USA & the west, and stop to do business for world economic growth etc. It is practicality vs idealistic. Power is the key to occupy and control resources crucial for survival. After you got the last remaining resources you SHUT YOUR DOOR so that the others can not share resources with you. You won't be the Santa Clause to give away resources and help all the hungry ghosts of 7th month. You CAN NOT AFFORD TO!
     
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    Pls lor my friend fatty kim is a good man drumpf is mad man, he only demonstrate to world no call bluff, America is within reach. Drumpf only using this ruse to make skorea pay for useless weapons n tariff on,skorea n China. He has no shot at war n no power to command any. Only stirring shit in Venezuela Iran Afghan etc. Cant even conduct a single war thwarted at current time's war does bring up rating of president but hardship on a broken economy. Any war will tank us economy.
     
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    If the US did not dare to mess with a North Korea before it had its nukes and H bomb, why would the US now want to start a war with them after they've gotten their nukes?

    Fat kim will continue to push and push, while the US will just have to put up with the abuse like a good bitch.
     
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    Don't forget N Korea has nuke . Can't imagine what they will do if provoked . Japan will be hit first. Part of US also will be downed . Is it worth the risk?
    Likewise for N Korea . They won't want to risk it either .
     
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    I thought Japan should have a comprehensive missile defence system years ago to tackle such obvious threats. But maybe they don't or such a missile defence system was never in existence. Even today, shooting down a nuke is not possible?
     
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    Some things just doesn't change: 分久必合,合久必分。
     
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    Better quickly go buy by Note 8 before all these start.
     
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    Fatty Kim has learnt well from the fall of Saddam Hussein. if you are going to boast that you have weapons of mass destruction, you jolly well must really have them, and USA wouldn't dare to do anything to you.
     
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    I would say push has come to shove and yet china hasn't lifted a finger. Why? Perhaps it suits them to have NK as a throne in the US bum forever.

    The only thing stopping the US is the massive loss of life among KJU's citizenry….but how long can this shit go on?


     
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    We are living in scary times.

    Enjoy while you can. Our days may be numbered with 2 crazy fatso slogging out for their own ego.
     

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