welfare in japan .....

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For many decades, the Singapore Government has adopted a policy of a “no welfare state”. now take a look at japan welfare system ......




The Health care system :
in Japan provides healthcare services, including screening examinations, prenatal care and infectious disease control, with the patient accepting responsibility for 30% of these costs while the government pays the remaining 70%. Payment for personal medical services is offered through a universal health care insurance system that provides relative equality of access, with fees set by a government committee. People without insurance through employers can participate in a national health insurance program administered by local governments. Patients are free to select physicians or facilities of their choice and cannot be denied coverage. Hospitals, by law, must be run as non-profit and be managed by physicians. For-profit corporations are not allowed to own or operate hospitals. Clinics must be owned and operated by physicians.
Annual health checks (kenshin) are provided free to just about everyone in Japan, including foreigners. They are provided once a year for company employees employed for over a year, and at junior and senior high schools. Pre-school children, the elderly and the self-employed receive free or subsidized medical care through their local ward or city office.

When you visit a hospital or clinic, you will need to show your health insurance card. If you don't have one, you will probably be charged a nominal fee. Otherwise, you'll pay 10 or 30 percent of the costs, depending on which kind of insurance you have .

personal anecdote: last time , when I had no insurance cover - nobody ever asked and I never needed it, but - I suffered from some lower back pain. I thought maybe it was a slipped disc so I went to a local chiropractic clinic. I was asked for my insurance card and I said I'd forgotten it. I was seen by the doctor, had a couple of x-rays taken, did a session on a stretching machine and received a bunch of muscle relaxants and pain killers and a belt/girdle. For all of which, I was much relieved, I only had to pay 5,000 yen ( about $sin 70 ). Getting married , made me think again about not being insured so I went with an international insurance scheme. This kind of scheme has flat rates, regardless of your income. In my case, this comes to about 15,000 yen a month, less than I'd pay for Japanese insurance and it covers me abroad, too. Mind you, I've yet to have a need to use it, in Japan or elsewhere.


Japan has a system of universal health coverage, but exactly how it applies to any given person depends on several factors: whether you're working, visiting or a student, your age and so on. Variations in how the different systems are translated into English can also cause confusion. There are two main systems and both have subcategories and other complications so the descriptions here have been simplified and will apply to most foreigners in Japan.

Medical insurance can be divided into two broad categories: the community-based system of National Health Insurance (kokumin kenkou hoken, or kokuho) and Employees' Health Insurance (shakai kenkou hoken, or shakai hoken). Membership of one or the other scheme is compulsory. Monthly premiums are calculated slightly differently for each but are based mostly on salary. Coverage for medical costs also vary between the schemes.

Employees' Insurance
Employees' Health Insurance (sometimes referred to as Society-managed) has a few subcategories but broadly speaking it applies to people who are:

1) working for medium to large companies
2) working for national or local government
3 )working for private schools

The employer provides a health insurance certificate to employees. Premiums are calculated based on the insured person's monthly salary (not including bonuses, which are taxed separately), are divided equally between the employee and their employer and are deducted form the monthly paycheck. On average, the deduction is around 4 percent. Premiums are calculated based on the previous year's salary . The insured is exempt from premium payments for up to one year taken for child-care leave. Members of the Employees' Insurance scheme must also join the Employees' Pension Insurance scheme . Members of this scheme pay only 20 percent of their medical costs. Family members pay 20 percent when hospitalized and 30 percent for outpatient costs .in some cases , which they receive full coverage. The insurance covers sickness, injury and necessary DENTAL WORK ( yes ...you dont have that in singapore ) . In the case of long-term sickness or childbirth, the insured (or their spouse in the latter case) will receive an allowance, based on the insured's salary. In the case of the death of the insured or their dependents, an allowance for the funeral is paid.



baby bonus :

per child will be paid ( 12,000yen per month ) until 12 years old

single parent will received ( 42,000yen per month ) per child until child is 18years old .

school fee is free until 12years old .

medical free until kids is 12 years old .

school is free until kids reach 12years old .



japanese adult who is jobless will received ( at least 100,000yen per month ) some are paid even more depending on their last draw salary .:D:D
 
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Got one idiot renounced Jap citizenship and served SgNS...ended up stateless...because he forgot to say, we the sixty cents of Singapore... Wonder what happens if his reservist unit calls him up...stateless also must serve reservist?
 
Got one idiot renounced Jap citizenship and served SgNS...ended up stateless...because he forgot to say, we the sixty cents of Singapore...

maybe he feels that singapore is more suitable for him ? nobody is seeing the same perspective as another person ...:)
 
More likely he passed SgPSLE but failed JLPT.

LOL...thats why he can click with singapore ...i guess he had more singaporean friends then japanese friend too .;)
 
Anyway, Japan takes the taxes collected and helps their people in need. Singapore takes the taxes collected and gives to Temasek to gamble. That's alright if it's on risk-sharing principle but that's not so. Win they win, lose you lose.
 
Anyway, Japan takes the taxes collected and helps their people in need. Singapore takes the taxes collected and gives to Temasek to gamble. That's alright if it's on risk-sharing principle but that's not so. Win they win, lose you lose.

thats why japan goverment no money and got no business ...:D
 
PrataMan, Lim Boon Heng and Viv B need to visit Japan instead of a visit to Finland, minus Viv B.
 
PrataMan, Lim Boon Heng and Viv B need to visit Japan instead of a visit to Finland, minus Viv B.

I would like to see Singapore has some form of welfare system, but not the type that would ensure that people can abuse and misuse.

Perhaps one that puts our CPF has the net and nest we need to ensure that people would still work and if they could not find work in 6 months, then they could draw their CPF, like a form of self-loan for themselves.

The problem is, we have many foreginers who abused our citizenship system as a springboard to other countries and career. We can not allow such a welfare system be abused in the same manner as well.
 
I would like to see Singapore has some form of welfare system, but not the type that would ensure that people can abuse and misuse.

Perhaps one that puts our CPF has the net and nest we need to ensure that people would still work and if they could not find work in 6 months, then they could draw their CPF, like a form of self-loan for themselves.

The problem is, we have many foreginers who abused our citizenship system as a springboard to other countries and career. We can not allow such a welfare system be abused in the same manner as well.

Bro, I agree with you. Wonderful if it is implemented as long as abuse and misuse can be kept to a minimum. While we declare ourselves 1st world in almost everything, I think we do not measure up to other 1st world countries where welfare is concerned. More like 3rd world to me.

There is a mental block among the MIW to adequately support those genuinely in need. I don't know why. Only Lily Neo speaks out on the poor and elderly with passion. The others are just going through the motion. Viv B? Perhaps he was never poor before.
 
Income tax can go up to 40% like in Western countries. Trade-off which is sensible for a country with old-people-heavy demographics reliant on public healthcare

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2206.html

Tax is thievery. There's no trade-off whatsoever on the part of the poor for they contribute little and consume much. Which is why if you are poor, there's no better place in the world to be in than Europe where you can exploit the rich with the coercive mechanisms of the state.
 
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Tax is thievery. There's no trade-off whatsoever on the part of the poor for they contribute little and consume much. Which is why if you are poor, there's no better place in the world to be in than Europe where you can exploit the rich with the coercive mechanisms of the state.

It's fair to tax on liquour, cigs, luxury goods, cars etc. But I think some items shouldn't be taxed - basic necessities for the poor.
 
It's fair to tax on liquour, cigs, luxury goods, cars etc. But I think some items shouldn't be taxed - basic necessities for the poor.

This is a land where even water and electricity are considered luxury and taxed, the redoubly taxed again with GST.
 
The health care system in Japan has set the standard for the rest of the world (including the US) to follow. But extremely unlikely that SG will follow suit because I think there will be too many ppl trying to outsmart the system and leech the govt. the Japanese population in general is considerate in public and ppl don't try to beat the system.
sometimes, I wish I live in a society like that where ppl are more considerate
open minded.
 
The health care system in Japan has set the standard for the rest of the world (including the US) to follow. But extremely unlikely that SG will follow suit because I think there will be too many ppl trying to outsmart the system and leech the govt. the Japanese population in general is considerate in public and ppl don't try to beat the system.
sometimes, I wish I live in a society like that where ppl are more considerate
open minded.

Your dream may be fulfilled 2-3 generations later, if lucky - if there are drastic changes to our education and upbringing.
 
Got one idiot renounced Jap citizenship and served SgNS...ended up stateless...because he forgot to say, we the sixty cents of Singapore... Wonder what happens if his reservist unit calls him up...stateless also must serve reservist?

Nihon-ji stupid lah!, we the sixty cents of SINgapore, pledge as ourselves as one United People, while the FT's are worth 100 cents, this pledge he does not know??

Reservist unit call him up, he just tell them , that his glorious Imperial Japanese Army of Synon-to had just called up for reservist.:rolleyes:
 
Nihon-ji stupid lah!, we the sixty cents of SINgapore, pledge as ourselves as one United People, while the FT's are worth 100 cents, this pledge he does not know??

Reservist unit call him up, he just tell them , that his glorious Imperial Japanese Army of Synon-to had just called up for reservist.:rolleyes:

If I were I him, I'd report for reservist, draw arms, load up and shoot everyone within sight and range Yamashita Tomoyuki style until the last round. If they still fail to have me shot by then, shout out loud Ten'no Banzai and turn the last round on myself.
 
If I were I him, I'd report for reservist, draw arms, load up and shoot everyone within sight and range Yamashita Tomoyuki style until the last round. If they still fail to have me shot by then, shout out loud Ten'no Banzai and turn the last round on myself.

You mean he should commit hara kiri like a Bushido, like Yukio Mishima??;)
 
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