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they have historically been whores who are used to spreading their legs far and wide for any and all comers

the tiongs fooked them deep deep for abt 1000 years, the same tiongs were entirely, fully, absolutely, totally demolished, crushed, subjugated, colonized, conquered by their mongol rulers

When Ibn Battuta or Marco Polo visited Tiongkok, Mongols ruled over them. Mongols also conquered Central Asia (Uzbekistan, turkmenistan etc), Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, and partially Syria, Turkey, Armenia, Georgia


They also ruled over much of Russia, Eastern Europe all the way to Poland, Hungary or Ukraine?


But they failed - on land - in two major regions or countries.

One was Masr/Egypt. Mongols were whacked senseless at the Battle of Ayn Jalut and defeated decisively.
Since then, it was one step back until another before Mongols were completely routed from Syria. at the battle of Elbistan, Egyptian Mamluks (Turkic Slaves) defeated Mongols in present day Turkey/Anatolia/Asia Minor.

The other fortress of sort that stood against Mongol incursions like a rock was Delhi Sultanate which supposedly defeated Mongols some 22 times until Mongols realized the futility of attacking Muslim ruled Delhi Sultanate.

Afghanistan or Pakistan, Iran or Iraq or Syria, Anatolia were conquered, subjugated or vassalized, same happened to central asia. what stood out was these two fortresses of Islamic world and that is why Ibn Battuta heaped praise on both Egypt and Muslim ruled Delhi Sultanate.

he hardly lavished any praise on Persia (ravaged by Mongols and totally, entirely subjugated; the city of Tabriz, Azeri territory, from the region which the turkic donkey Khamenei hails ancestry as a Turkic azeri, surrendered peacefully, meekly, quietly as a full on surrender monkey).

Ibn Battuta was dismissive of Hindus, also dismissive of polytheist or pagan tiong traditions. He did not hold infidel / non Muslim Sumatra/Indonesia in high regard and treated the nig afros from subsaharan africa with disdain. much of his evaluations are found in his accounts Rihla .

Yet, in Greek orthodogs Constantinopole, present day Istanbul, ibn Battuta was full of praise for these infidels having met its emperor/supremo. having observed its inhabitants, architecture, urban layout, technology, cuisine and culture, he held them in high regard


it seems quite clear to me that despite orientalist propaganda pushed by evil quarters with vested interests, we can safely say that Angus Maddison's unsupported, rather questionable estimates of GDP of countries and regions from 2000 years ago to the present day are an exercise in futility and no more reliable than fortune telling.

For one, the concept of GDP did not exist centuries earlier. Moreover, most countries and regions of the world hardly ever carried out surveys, making it doubly as hard to estimate their populations. On top of that, Angus Maddison's crude estimates which are as unreliable as fortune teller's predictions assume that peoples and countries, regions and territories around the world were equally as rich, equally as advanced, equally as prosperous, equally as safe, equally as knowledgeable, equally as satisfied, dignified, sophisticated and glorious.

This assumption of Angus Maddison's could hardly be farther from the truth.

As we can read from the accounts of such travellers as Ibn Battuta, Zheng He, Marco Polo or Ibn Fadlan (who had reached the Volgas and by some accounts, met Vikings/Nordics who he was hardly impressed with for their lack of manners, cultures, civilized etiquette, lack of propriety and intellect. It wouldn't be wrong to say Ibn Battuta's impression of the negros and Ibn Fadlan's impression of the Vikings/Nordics were mirror images of one another.


It is for this exact reason that Muslims of yore, of centuries past, never went ahead on a civilizing mission in Subsaharan Africa all the way to what is now called the Cape of Good Hope, in much the same way that those glorious forebearers of much of today's modern civilization never went ahead on a civilizing mission all the way to the Lapland or the farthest region of Viking/Nordic territories.

If you notice, all of the advanced ,most prosperous, sophisticated, developed civilizations of yore in Europe and Africa clustred around the North Africa, Middle East, Southern Europe region. That may also be called the Mediterranean region. The Romans and Greeks were certainly of Mediterranean origin more than Viking/ Anglo/ Celtic/ Bavarian origin for the most part. Egyptians, Moroccans, Tunisians, Syrians, Iraqis, Iranians, Anatolians can hardly be called Africans in the Subsaharan African sense.

Angus Maddison's crude estimates, as unreliable as a fortunate teller's predictions, can hardly be used to justfy the dubious claim that Tiongs or CECA were the two richest economies of the planet for the last 2000 years. There is no documented evidence for this apart from hearsay.

We do have evidence that Ibn Battuta heaped praise on Cairo, Al Qahirah, and considered it the biggest city on Earth outside Tiongkok, where Hangchow was considered the biggest city..




Alexandria, Egypt

Ibn Battuta was very impressed with Alexandria. Later he said it was one of the five most magnificent places he ever visited. At this time Alexandria was a busy harbor firmly controlled by Egypt's Mamluk warrior caste who had governed that country and Syria as a united kingdom since 1260. It was the Mamluks (Mamluk means "slave") who took over the rule of Egypt from their "masters", and were able to defeat the Mongols who had taken over Baghdad and other parts of the Islamic Empire.

Ibn Battuta spent several weeks in this busy port and saw such sights as the Pharos Lighthouse(link is external), one of the "Seven Wonders of the Ancient World" - which was pretty much falling apart at that time.

It was here that he tells of achievements and miracles of several scholars and mystics - include a Sufi mystic who predicted that the young pilgrim would travel and meet fellow Sufis in India and China.

"I was amazed at his prediction, and the idea of going to these countries having been cast into my mind, my wanderings never ceased until I had met these three that he named and conveyed his greeting to them." [Gibb, p. 24]

Ibn Battuta visited other cities on the Nile Delta, and continued on to Cairo (or "al-Qahirah" - "the Victorious") founded in the 10th century by the Fatimid dynasty. On his way he passed the pyramids of Giza,




"I arrived ... at the city of Cairo, mother of cities ... mistress of broad provinces and fruitful lands, boundless in multitude of buildings, peerless in beauty and splendor, the meeting-place of comer and goer, the stopping-place of feeble and strong. ...She [Cairo] surges as the waves of the sea with her throngs of folk and can scarce contain them..." [Gibb, vol. I, p. 41].


Cairo, Egypt
Life inside the walled city was crowded and frantic. The narrow streets were filled with people, camels, and donkeys and lined with thousands of shops and markets. Armies of peddlers and vendors also jammed the streets.
Ibn Battuta goes on to describe the city's many mosques, colleges, hospitals, and convents which housed the poor. They were built by the amirs (military commanders) who competed "with one another in charitable works and the founding of mosques and religious houses." [Gibb, vol. I, p. 54] Visit the Gallery to see some of the buildings he saw.
Ibn Battuta was particularly impressed with a maristan, or hospital, for its beauty and for its service to the sick. Such hospitals demonstrated Islamic commitment to "charity", one of the Five Pillars of Islam. A later traveler echoed this enthusiasm:

"Cubicles for patients were ranged round two courts, and at the sides of another quadrangle were wards, lecture rooms, library, baths, dispensary, and every necessary appliance of those days of surgical science. There was even music to cheer the sufferers; while reader of the Koran afforded the consolations of the faith. Rich and poor were treated alike, without fees, and sixty orphans were supported and educated in the neighboring school." [Lane-Poole, Story of Cairo, quoted in Dunn, p. 50.]

Nile Trip
Ibn Battuta stayed in Cairo about one month, but he decided to proceed to Mecca on his own by way of Upper Egypt to the Red Sea port of 'Aydhad and from there by ship to Jidda on the Arabian coast. This was generally a safe route under the protection of the Sultan, but it took longer and was less traveled than the route across the Sinai. Ibn Battuta was probably interested in being a tourist again and chose this route.
His trip up the Nile took him almost three weeks. He traveled by land rather than on the river, and along the way he lodged at the homes of scholars, qadis (judges), and Sufis or in college dormitories.
He observed the Nile which usually floods in June and described its importance to the economy and taxation of Egypt.

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"If the rise amounts to 16 cubits*, the land-tax is payable in full. ... If it reaches 18 cubits it does damage to their farmland and causes an outbreak of the plague. If the Nile rises 15 cubits, the land-tax will be diminished. If it rises only 14 cubits or less, there will be prayers for rain and there is great misery." [abridged from Gibb, p. 51.]

* a cubit is an ancient measure from the finger to the elbow of an average person or about 18 - 20 inches.
His trip was without major incident. However, he does write about a minor incident showing his attitudes toward modesty:

"One day I entered the bath-house... and found men in it wearing no covering. This appeared a shocking thing to me, and I went to the governor and informed him of it. He told me not to leave and ordered the [owners] of the bath-houses to be brought before him. Articles were formally drawn up making them subject to penalties if any person should enter a bath without a waist-wrapper, and the governor behaved to them with the greatest severity, after which I took leave of him." [Gibb, p. 63.]

Another incident in the town of Hiw was prophetic. Here he met a holy man, a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad, who prophesied that he would not make his first pilgrimage except by the road through Syria. Ibn Battuta ignored the omen, and continued on his way.
Leaving the Nile, he set out on camel with a party of Bedouin Arabs toward the Red Sea, which took about 15 days. Here, he found that the local ruling family was in revolt against the Mamluk governor. They had sunk some ships and threatened further violence. So Ibn Battuta was forced to retrace his steps and proceed back to Cairo and take a northern route to Mecca after all. (Just as prophesied.) The trip back did not take long - eight days, and by ship this time.
Take a side trip here to find out more about the Mamluks - "slave" rulers of Egypt.
Surprisingly, he stayed only one night in Cairo before setting out on the second part of his trip - not directly to Mecca, but to Damascus, Syria. (Damascus was a kind of second capital of the Mamluk Empire.) The Mamluks protected this route, and Ibn Battuta decided to take this northeastward course.
Trade was the life-blood of the Mamluk Empire, and caravanserai ("hotels" for caravan travelers) were built to encourage trade. One caravanserai for Syrian merchants had 360 lodgings above the storerooms and enough space for 4,000 guests at a time! Ibn Battuta would be staying at places like this built along the main trade routes.

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[mudhatter]

Ibn Battuta also visited such southern CECA territories and cities as , Calicut Malabar. He also travelled to the countries of Muslim ruled Bengal, assam, Maldives and Ceylon apart from India, which was ruled by various Muslim Sultans in various regions but the most prominent of them was probably the Sultan of Delhi. In other words, CECA virus were well and truly subjects and entirely dominated by their Muslim masters. We find no mention of any notable native CECA virus king, emperor or royal in his accounts.

Legendary emperor Babur's accounts of CECA virus are also of immense significance. Since he went on to found the glorious Mughal empire that would lord over CECA virus for many more centuries until CECA would change masters and bow towards Queen Victoria in London, we can not ignore legendary emperor Babur's evaluation of CECA virus.

There is hardly any reason to believe Angus Maddison's crude estimates are any more reliable than Kim Jong Un or Eunuch Loong published stats.

While Ibn Battuta was not entirely dismissive of Muslim ruled Bengal, Maldives or Mongol ruled Persia, he was not full of praise for them. His higest praise, we might rightly estimate, was reserved for Egypt.

Honorable mentions go to Tiongs, but also they were kafir and behaved like polytheist pagans which Ibn Battuta found disgusting at times. Same is true of Constantinopole to a lesser degree, the novelty and charm was less pronounced for him in Greek orthodog Constantinopole. But also the grandeur and sophistication, the allure was also markedly less.

Apparently, perpetual loser Iranians were reduced from an estimated 2.5 million people in Persia to a mere 250,000 (10% of original popn) by the Mongols, who would once again ravage Iran in the coming centuries thanks to Tamerlane/Timur the Lame.

Perpetual loser Iranians quite naturally find affinity with their eastern neighbours and brothers CECA (including Pakis). Perpetual losers of the world band together.

 

[mudhatter]

From orientalist (therefore, anti Islamic, anti Muslim, and pro-Western, likely radical Zionist terrorist) author H.A.R. Gibb's "The Travels of Ibn Battuta, A.D. 1325-1354 Volume I)

 

[mudhatter]

From same, decidedly biased, anti Islamic, anti Muslim, radical Western, extremist Zionist source in English language

According to Ibn Battuta, The Nile is one of the five great rivers of the world, which are the Nile, Euphrates, Tigris, Saihun [Syr Darya] and Jaihun [Amu Darya]; five other rivers rival these, the river
of Sind, which is called Panj Ab [i.e. Five Rivers], the river of
Hindustan which is called the Kank [or Gang, i.e. Ganges]—
to it the Hindus go on pilgrimage, and when they burn their
dead they throw the ashes of them into it, and they say that
it comes from Paradise—the river Jun, also in Hindustan, 154
the river Itil [Volga] in the Qifjaq [Kipchak] steppe, on the
shore of which is the city of al-Sara, and the river Saru155 in
the land of al-Khita [Cathay], on the banks of which is the
city of Khan-Baliq [Peking], whence it descends to the city
so of al-Khansa [Hang-chow] and from there to | the city of
al-Zaitun [Zayton] in the land of China. We shall speak of all
these in their proper places, if God will. Some distance below
Cairo the Nile divides into three sections,156 and none of
these streams can be crossed except by boat, winter or
summer. The inhabitants of every township have canals led
off the Nile; when it is in flood it fills these and they inundate
the cultivated fields.


Five greatest rivers in the world

1. Nile - Egypt
2. Euphrates - Iraq, Syria
3. Tigris - Iraq, Syria
4. Amu Darya - Central Asia incl Uzbekistan
5. Syr Darya - Central Asia incl Uzbekistan

It is only natural that the most advanced, most prosperous, most developed, most populous, bustling cities, metropolises, centres of learning and trade, commerce and industry, scientific and technological progress, of spiritual enlightenment and giving and receiving, of exchanges and of realizing lofty human ideals would be clustered around all of these 5 rivers.

Of the other 5 minor rivers mentioned, one is in present day Pakistan (Indus), two in present day CECA virus territory that was ruled by Muslims at that time, all the way from northern regions by the Sultanate of Delhi (the emperor was Muhammad bin Tughluq, at that time) down to the South in such places as Calicut or Malabar, where Ibn Battuta encountered many a wealthy Muslim businessman who had established trade ties, mosques, charities, madrasas and were potentates in their region. One such Muslim potentate is whom Ibn Battuta sought assistance from in the southern regions of present day CECA virus territory after he had been looted by Hindutva savages and when Ibn Battuta was concerned about going back to Delhi, not knowing how the irate Sultan Muhammad bin Tughluq might react. With assistance of a regional Muslim potentate in the southern region of present day CECA virus territory, he made his way to nearby Maldives where he also sojourned and lived for quite some time (a few years, maybe?)

Of the five greatest rivers in the world, all five were in Muslim majority regions. That is expected since most of the known world was dominated by Muslim rulers or were Muslim majority regions for much of the last 1400 years. Things only began to change slowly for European crusading fanatic extremists with the discovery of the Americas with its immense natural resources and mostly tribal, less advanced communities of Indians/Red Indians.

Of the five minor rivers in the world, one was in present day Pakistan, two in present day CECA virus territory which was then ruled by Muslims in almost its entirety, one was in present day Russia and one in Tiongkok.

These facts also put paid to much of Angus Maddison's unsupported and entirely unscientific estimates on the populations, and thus GDPs, of countries and regions for the last 2000 years. His unscientific method asssumes that all countries, regions and peoples were equally as advanced, equally as rich, equally as prosperous, well to do, sophisticated, diligent, free of diseases, needs, privations or other maladies that might have been common in those times.

 

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