VACCINES is not the CURE like antibiotic it weakens over time u need stronger & stronger doses.

[nirvarq]

Simply put TLDR mode is : Vaccines just like antibiotic will heal you if your Natural Immunity is working fine it enhance it's battle vs the viruses. But if you kena new infections due to new stronger variants or bigger viral loads because of more or longer exposure you'll then need boosters 1 then 2 then 3 it never end until your body finally collapse.

Vaccines also helps to stall the congestions in hospital if it works but alas Pfizer is only 40% effective and if given to the entire population and if there's newer stronger variants the entire theme fails as after few months the effectiveness of the vaccine is gone and the vaccinated people are now at lower natural immunity hence the scramble to get you the booster shots.

Pfizer Vaccine is only 40% effective 95% efficacy hurriedly promoted for use due to time constrain and no other choices. Also failed herd immunity plan as the virus mutated though we made good money on Pfizer shares along the way am i right and fair to put it this way ?

Nobody is really anti-vaccine we're all living in the same world the only difference is some of us already knew this as this is not the first time Humanity has gone thru a 'pandemic' and eventually 'endemic'.
Hence some of us chooses not to vaccine and fight it raw, do or die is also a way out naturally since beginning of time. Big risk but nature wins eventually and is the only way out atm until a cure is found is it not ?

Influenza patients on cots at a makeshift treatment center in Lonoke, Arkansas, in November 1918. National Archives

*RSVP reply and tok nicely logically don't add insults and we all appreciate that. Thanks !

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Firstly, sorry for posting and linking another site's posting here is not very nice or ethical.
https://forums.fuckwarezone.com.sg/...ur-lives-in-an-untested-theory.6598323/page-2


Read this and i think it's nicely explained :

mRNA actually provides information of virus for our body to make antibodies that fight against covid virus, however, mRNA will break down after a while, thus no longer provide information. As such, body may stop producing these antibodies anymore. This is because our body normally needs resources to for other things like make blood cells, repair damage cells etc, and our resources are limited, causing DEMAND more than SUPPLY, therefore when mRNA no longer around, body will auto divert all the resources to make covid antibodies for other things lor. And many people in the world doesnt know that ITS OUR ANTIBODIES THAT ARE EFFECTIVE AGAINST COVID VIRUS, NOT THE VACCINE ITSELF THAT PRODUCES ANTIBODIES TO FIGHT COVID VIRUS! And the AMOUNT OF ANTIBODIES PRODUCES BY INDIVIDUAL VARIES ACCORDING TO ONES HEALTH, where old, babies and children tends to be weaker and slower in producing antibodies, which is why they are more prone to covid 19 virus. As i often sees people interview in TV and they all say I GOT VAX SO I AM SAFE AND NO NEED TO FEAR COVID ANYMORE! They do not know that VAX is not the antibody that fight the covid virus at all!

I think many people throughout the world miss a SUPER impt point here, the vaccine effectiveness is constantly decreasing in our body, but the virus is a living being that is constantly growing stronger and mutating reaching to become superman in our body! Very soon, having 3rd vaccine will deem no use, then 4th vax, 5 vax, 6 vax, 7 vax? never ending vax? what other serious side effects will we have if we keep taking so many vaccines constantly in long run? Thus, the solution here is not having this vaccine but we need a cure! And the whole world needs to hang in there until a cure is found! And this Vaccine is just a temporary medicine or measure to help mankind to stall for more time to enable scientists to find a cure thats all. Thus, this vaccine is never a cure but a temporary measurement put in place to enable humans to find a cure! Therefore, the vaccine is a circuit breaker itself! But why am i seeing currently most resources and scientists, researchers are allocated to focus in producing stronger vaccines instead? Is it because of huge profits earning in selling Booster vaccine yearly? If this misconception and misallocation of scientists, researchers and resources are not change and reallocated throughout all the countries, from focusing to produce stronger RNA vaccine instead of focusing in finding a cure, i really doubt human beings will have a chance against this deadly living virus when it reaches GOD MODE level or transformed into SUPERMAN! GOD BLESS US ALL....

 

[eatshitndie]

w.h.o. just told biden to fuck off on the (3rd) booster shot mandate as the world still grapples with an acute lack of primary vaccination on the general population. very messy now. biden kena fucked left and right.

 

[Gallego99]

Data shows Covid booster shots are ‘not appropriate’ at this time, U.S. and international scientists conclude​

PUBLISHED MON, SEP 13 20219:00 AM EDTUPDATED MON, SEP 13 202111:26 AM

Berkeley Lovelace Jr.@BERKELEYJR

• An expert review of scientific evidence to date has concluded that Covid-19 vaccine booster shots are not needed at this time for the general public, a group of leading U.S. and international scientists said Monday in the peer-reviewed journal The Lancet.
  The conclusion by scientists, including two senior Food and Drug Administration officials and the World Health Organization, came as studies continue to show the authorized Covid vaccines in the U.S. remain highly effective against severe disease and hospitalization caused by the fast-spreading delta variant.
  
  While Covid vaccine effectiveness against mild disease may wane over time, protection against severe disease may persist, the scientists said. That’s because the body’s immune system is complex, they said, and has other defenses besides antibodies that may protect someone from getting seriously sick.
  “Current evidence does not, therefore, appear to show a need for boosting in the general population, in which efficacy against severe disease remains high,” the scientists wrote, adding the wide distribution of boosters is “not appropriate at this stage in the pandemic.”
  They acknowledged that booster shots may eventually be needed for the general population if vaccine-induced immunity wanes even further or a new variant emerges that can evade the protection of the shots.
  
  They said there are risks to distributing boosters too soon, including the potential for side effects such as a rare heart inflammation condition known as myocarditis, which is more common after the second dose of mRNA vaccines.
  
  “If unnecessary boosting causes significant adverse reactions, there could be implications for vaccine acceptance that go beyond COVID-19 vaccines,” they wrote.
  
  Shares of Covid vaccine maker BioNTech were down more than 5% in intraday trading.
  
  The comments come a week before the Biden administration says it plans to begin offering Covid vaccine booster shots to the general public. An FDA advisory group is meeting Friday to discuss the data to support the wide use of boosters.
  
  The administration last month cited three new studies, released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, that showed the vaccines’ protection against Covid diminished over several months. The administration’s plan, outlined by senior health officials, calls for a third dose eight months after people get their second shot of either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine.
  
  Scientists and other health experts have repeatedly criticized the plan, saying data the federal health officials cited wasn’t compelling, characterizing the administration’s push for boosters as premature.
  
  The scientists in The Lancet review published Monday include Marion Gruber, director of the FDA’s Office of Vaccines Research and Review, and deputy director Phil Krause. Both officials are departing the FDA this year after they were reportedly frustrated over the agency’s decision to support booster shots.
  
  The scientists said boosting could be appropriate for some individuals, such as those with weakened immune systems, who don’t produce an adequate immune response after receiving two doses of a vaccine.
  
  Federal health officials last monthauthorized booster shots for such people including cancer and HIV patients or those who have had organ transplants.
  
  https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/13/cov...opriate-at-this-time-scientists-conclude.html
  
  
  
  

 

[nayr69sg]

The Medical Profession is in disrepute now. Quite simply.

 

[Gallego99]

Its the same recommendation made by JCVI to the British G. So are we going to delay booster jabs? Sometimes I wish the journalists ask the tough questions. Where are the panel of experts?

 

[nayr69sg]

Listen to Harvard!

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog...are-exert-your-patient-autonomy-2018050713784

Take control of your health care (exert your patient autonomy)​

May 7, 2018

• By Carolyn A. Bernstein, MD, FAHS, Contributor

Autonomy means being in control of your own decisions without outside influence — in other words, that you are in charge of yourself. It is considered an essential development step toward maturity. We all make decisions about how to live our lives, although sometimes we have less choice than we might like.

When it comes to your health care, how much autonomy is the right amount?​

There’s lots of interest in what the term means. Here’s a definition from MedicineNet:
Patient autonomy: The right of patients to make decisions about their medical care without their health care provider trying to influence the decision. Patient autonomy does allow for health care providers to educate the patient but does not allow the health care provider to make the decision for the patient.
This can be a hard line to navigate. In the past, physicians made all the decisions for their patients. They would plan the care, prescribe the treatment, and the patient would either comply or not. The word “comply” is itself pejorative. We have moved into a much more enlightened era of care, and many physicians seek to involve patients, to help them understand treatment options, and to work collaboratively to achieve goals of wellness.

When you and your doctor don’t see eye to eye on the best health care for you​

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But what if you and your physician don’t agree on the best course of care for you? What if your doctor insists that she knows best, and that your health will be at risk if you don’t follow her advice? Maybe your physician has discouraged you from researching your medical condition yourself. From the physician’s angle, most of us want our patients to understand their illness, be educated on goals of wellness, and be active participants in their own healthcare. But here’s where it gets tricky: physicians study for years to become doctors and bring their scientific knowledge and clinical acumen to the office and the bedside. Patients may not have those skills, but they know their own bodies, tolerance for treatment, and the manner in which they are comfortable receiving care.

Finding the right doctor​

It’s sometimes hard to find a doctor you’re comfortable with, whether it’s for you or your child. Making a list of what’s important to you — whether you have a physician you like now, are uncomfortable in your current treating situation, or are in the process of looking for a new provider — can really help. Ask yourself these questions:

• What is my style about health care? Do I want my doctor to tell me what to do, list the options but give me the final choice, or let me describe the medication and plan that I have researched first?
• Would I like someone who is more relational or more boundaried? Do I want a physician who has the style of sharing his own life with me, asks about my life and tries to incorporate who I am as a person as well as a patient, or would I prefer a more businesslike approach? Do I want my physician to tell me if she has the same illness I do, and what it’s like for her, or would I prefer my doctor keep this to herself?
• How much do I want my doctor to know about me as a person? Is that important in the way I want to receive my health care?
• What might happen if I disagree with my doctor? Would that end the treating relationship right there, or could we work through a difference?

The right doctor will naturally support your patient autonomy​

Figuring out how you want your physician to work with you lets you maintain your patient autonomy, whatever that autonomy might be. Receiving the kind of care that is comfortable for you is exercising your autonomy. There will always be blips along the way. One woman told me about a primary care doctor she had worked with for years who became enraged with her at a visit, seemingly out of the blue. She felt he was attacking her health care behavior without asking appropriate questions. She offered him several opportunities during the visit to re-evaluate his comments. When he couldn’t do so, she used her autonomy to fire him. Another patient described being told that if he did not take a specific medication, the outcome could be devastating for his health. This may have been true, but perhaps a more collaborative discussion would have allowed this patient to feel less bullied into a treatment. Feeling comfortable with your right to get the answers you need to understand your treatment reflects your patient autonomy. Make sure your doctor’s style matches your own. How the treating relationship works is an essential part of the treatment. If it works, everything is enhanced. If your autonomy is not respected, your health care will suffer.

 

[Gallego99]

The Medical Profession is in disrepute now. Quite simply.

I'm all for a healthy discourse on a subject that affects everyone on planet earth. We have to agree to disagree. Where booster shots are concerned, timing is just as important as the virus is still evolving and MU is right at our doorstep.

 

[nayr69sg]

I'm all for a healthy discourse on a subject that affects everyone on planet earth. We have to agree to disagree. Where booster shots are concerned, timing is just as important as the virus is still evolving and MU is right at our doorstep.

Drs should keep quiet.

They should also not be trying to influence what treatments patients choose.

Educate provide information yes.

Do NOT influence or try to tell patient what to do!

Absolute no no. Against patient autonomy!

Exercise your patient autonomy!

 

[Gallego99]

Well said.

 

[nayr69sg]

Spread the term around. It is called the medical ethical principle of PATIENT AUTONOMY!

Repeat it. Use it.

Quote it.

Tell the government. Tell MOH. Tell Drs.

Patient autonomy!

Drs can be disciplined by SMC for not adhering to the principle of patient autonomy.

 

[nirvarq]

Spread the term around. It is called the medical ethical principle of PATIENT AUTONOMY!

Repeat it. Use it.

Quote it.

Tell the government. Tell MOH. Tell Drs.

Patient autonomy!

Drs can be disciplined by SMC for not adhering to the principle of patient autonomy.

Truth, but that statement makes me very sad as well. Simply put lets say you come back here SG and tell it to the 'Authorities' here. You know what i mean.. we do not have that luxury here. :(

 

[nayr69sg]

Truth, but that statement makes me very sad as well. Simply put lets say you come back here SG and tell it to the 'Authorities' here. You know what i mean.. we do not have that luxury here. :(

Why?

https://www.healthprofessionals.gov...and-handbook-on-medical-ethics-(2016-edition)

You can download the code.

 

[nayr69sg]

Page 36

C5. Patients’ right to information and self-determination
Patient autonomy is a fundamental principle in medical ethics and must be
respected. Patients are entitled to have accurate and sufficient information to be
able to make their own decisions about their medical management. Respecting
patients’ autonomy means:
You must provide adequate information in a manner that patients can
understand so as to allow them to make informed choices.
You must accept patients’ decisions whether to accept any of the
management options you offer even if you disagree with them, but you
must ensure that patients have sufficient information to understand the
consequences of their decisions.
You must not deliberately deceive patients on any aspect of their diagnosis
or management, but you must ensure that the information you give is
presented in terms and at a pace that allows patients to assimilate, thereby
enabling them to make informed decisions about their management.
If family members request withholding of information from patients, you
must not do so unless you assess that the patients will react in an extreme
way which would cause them serious harm. You must explain to the family
members your obligation not to deceive patients while being sympathetic
to their concerns and assuring them of your sensitivity in how you divulge
information.

 

[nayr69sg]

Page 33

C2. Good and effective communication
An important part of the patient-doctor relationship is good communication to
support patient autonomy, facilitate decision making by patients and to maximise
the potential for patient benefit. Communicating well with patients means:
You must engage in good communication with patients based on openness,
truthfulness and honesty.
You must not communicate in such a manner that your patients’ welfare
becomes compromised, patients are deprived of autonomy or suffer harm
as a result of poor communication.

 

[nirvarq]

Why?

https://www.healthprofessionals.gov...and-handbook-on-medical-ethics-(2016-edition)

You can download the code.

Why ?

Our state media can publish this, what more can you or can we expect ? Free will or choices is a luxury we don't really have here. :(

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...n-mandatory-so-measures-can-ease-for-everyone

Commentary​

S'pore should make Covid-19 jabs mandatory so measures can be eased for all​

Salma Khalik
Senior Health Correspondent

Eventually, large swathes of the population, whether vaccinated or not, will likely encounter the coronavirus, says the writer.PHOTO: ST FILE

• PUBLISHED
  SEP 12, 2021, 1:37 PM SGT

FACEBOOKTWITTER

SINGAPORE - There is no way to stop Covid-19 infections from spreading. The only thing that prolonging, or even enhancing, safety measures can do is to slow that spread - which is Singapore's current game plan.
But eventually, large swathes of the population, whether vaccinated or not, will likely encounter the coronavirus.
Last Monday (Sept 6), the Government said quick action was needed to dampen the increasing likelihood of an "exponential rise" in cases, even as Singapore hits 81 per cent in its full vaccination rate.
Finance Minister Lawrence Wong announced more frequent rostered routine testing for people in higher-risk settings, and mandatory testing and self-isolation for those who get health risk warnings. He also urged Singaporeans to limit non-essential social interactions.
Some quarters expressed disappointment, pointing out how the Government had earlier said measures would be eased once 80 per cent of the population had been fully vaccinated.
But dining at restaurants remains capped at five people if all are vaccinated, and two at hawker centres regardless of vaccination status. Working from home is still encouraged, with only half the employees allowed back at the office, and workplace socialising in the office is prohibited.



Explaining the decision further last Friday, Trade and Industry Minister Gan Kim Yong, a co-chairman of the multi-ministry task force tackling Covid-19, said: "We want to be cautious and give ourselves more time to be certain that the high number of daily cases will not result in a high number of serious cases or deaths."
Further relaxation of measures would be postponed for two to three more weeks, the task force said.
Its main fear is hospital services being overwhelmed with the rise in infections.
As a precaution, the Ministry of Health has told public hospitals to postpone non-urgent cases to free up room for the surge in Covid-19 patients. Non-urgent or elective cases include treatment of serious ailments, such as surgery for cancer.

Looking at the current Covid-19 numbers, the Government's recent moves seem, to me, way too precautionary.
There are now more than 700 Covid-19 patients in hospital but many of them could actually be recovering at home.
Health Minister Ong Ye Kung pointed out that "the large majority of infected patients are in hospital more for observation, and most are discharged uneventfully".
Hence the decision, announced last Friday, to allow more Covid-19 patients to recover at home, instead of occupying a hospital bed.
A further 2,000 infected adults below the age of 60 who are well or only mildly ill, are housed at community care facilities.
Of the current hospitalised patients, 35 need oxygen and seven are in intensive care.
These might seem like small numbers, but director of medical services Kenneth Mak noted that the Delta variant spreading here now doubles the risk of serious illness compared with earlier variants.
The task force ministers also stressed that it is not the current numbers, but those that may be coming, that are worrying.
There is a roughly two-week time lag between infection and serious illness where a patient needs oxygen or intensive care. So a rule of thumb tells us that the 42 seriously ill people on Sunday are based on the 120 newly infected people identified a fortnight ago.

MORE ON THIS TOPIC​

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Last Friday, there were 568 new locally transmitted Covid-19 cases. On Saturday, there were 550 such cases.
In a fortnight's time, how many will be seriously ill? Meanwhile, the number of new infections continues to rise.
Said Mr Wong: "Very soon, we will reach 1,000 new cases a day, and in a few weeks' time, we will probably get to 2,000 new cases a day."
Whether the number of seriously ill people will increase in tandem is the biggest question, but this will hopefully not materialise as more people get vaccinated.
Vaccination has a huge impact on how many people get seriously ill or die as a result of infection. So far, the rates of increase in infections and serious illness differ, with the rate of infections rising faster.
If this disconnect continues, then Singapore can safely ease measures as it shows that vaccines are doing a good job.
But if the rise in infection sees a tandem rise in serious illness, then even stricter measures might have to be imposed. This is to give seriously ill patients the best possible care and stop the healthcare system from being overwhelmed.

So far, the rates of increase in infections and serious illness differ, with the rate of infections rising faster. ST PHOTO: GIN TAY

Reflecting its concern, the task force mentioned the term "intensive care unit", or ICU, 49 times during Friday's 90-minute press conference.
Similarly, there were several references to what is happening in Israel, which has a population 50 per cent larger than Singapore's.
Israel eased measures when more than 60 per cent of the population was fully vaccinated. There was a surge in cases as thousands were infected, and it is now seeing about 25 deaths a day.
While the vaccination rate here is higher, the worry remains that Singapore's trajectory might follow Israel's.
But the latest Morbidity and Mortality Weekly report by the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention in the United States issued last Friday said that in spite of Delta being more infectious and causing more illness, the risk of infection for vaccinated people there is only around a fifth than for those not vaccinated.
Vaccines offer 10 times more protection against the need for hospital care or death, the report said.
In Singapore, 99.3 per cent of fully vaccinated people who get infected have been mildly sick or asymptomatic. In other words, only seven out of 1,000 people infected risk severe illness or death. In contrast, among the unvaccinated, 45 out of 1,000 people infected became seriously ill.

MORE ON THIS TOPIC​

Singapore's unique position means few yardsticks to refer to in Covid-19 fight: Kenneth Mak​

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Over the past four weeks, 3,516 vaccinated people were infected, with 25 getting seriously ill. While only 616 who were not vaccinated were infected, they accounted for 28 seriously ill patients.
Of the 58 people who have died as a result of Covid-19 here, only one was fully vaccinated.
The problem clearly lies with people who have not been vaccinated.
To date, 84 per cent of the population have received at least one jab of a vaccine. About half of those not vaccinated are children under the age of 12, for whom there is currently no approved vaccine. There are also some people for whom vaccines are not a medically viable option.
It is the estimated 500,000 people who are eligible but have chosen not to get vaccinated who are threatening the healthcare system.

MORE ON THIS TOPIC​

More Covid-19 patients can recover at home, shorter quarantine: New measures at a glance​

Covid-19 home recovery scheme to be expanded to more people: How does it work?​

They are more likely to need hospital care, if infected. If this leads to more postponement of treatment for people with other health problems, then their choice also impacts the health of others.
Associate Professor Mak also pointed out that among symptomatic patients, those who have been vaccinated are no longer infectious after nine days, while those who have not been vaccinated could take up to 16 days to clear the viral load to the point of not being infectious.
So it is the unvaccinated people who hold the key to how fast Singapore can open up.
As Mr Ong said: "To go through this experience differently from other countries, (with) as few deaths as possible without a prolonged hard lockdown, the key is vaccination."
Perhaps it is time the Government mandated vaccination for all who are medically eligible for it.
The argument against doing so is that none of the vaccines have received normal approval. They have been approved only under pandemic conditions.
However, millions of people here, and hundreds of millions globally, have been vaccinated, with very low rates of adverse reactions.

MORE ON THIS TOPIC​

Unlinked cases less relevant when S'pore treats Covid-19 as endemic: Experts​

How did S'pore contain the Jurong Fishery Port Covid-19 cluster?​

Previously, there were people who feared the novel messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) Covid-19 vaccines used in the national programme. But there are now other options, such as Sinovac, which uses more traditional vaccine methods. It is timely to rethink this issue.
Mandatory vaccination is not a new concept. That was largely how the world eradicated smallpox.
In Singapore, it is legally required for children to be vaccinated against diphtheria and measles.
If the Government takes over control of this key that Mr Ong mentioned, then the lock on the economy and people's lives can be opened sooner.

THE STRAITS TIMES​

 

[Loofydralb]

The Medical Profession is in disrepute now. Quite simply.

Yup. Just like some doctors here with 4 board certifications who is good at regurgitation of facts, but wholly misses the absolute greed and deceit and gullibility of humankind.

 

[nayr69sg]

Why ?

Our state media can publish this, what more can you or can we expect ? Free will or choices is a luxury we don't really have here. :(

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...n-mandatory-so-measures-can-ease-for-everyone

Commentary​

S'pore should make Covid-19 jabs mandatory so measures can be eased for all​

Salma Khalik
Senior Health Correspondent

Eventually, large swathes of the population, whether vaccinated or not, will likely encounter the coronavirus, says the writer.PHOTO: ST FILE

• PUBLISHED
  SEP 12, 2021, 1:37 PM SGT

FACEBOOKTWITTER

SINGAPORE - There is no way to stop Covid-19 infections from spreading. The only thing that prolonging, or even enhancing, safety measures can do is to slow that spread - which is Singapore's current game plan.
But eventually, large swathes of the population, whether vaccinated or not, will likely encounter the coronavirus.
Last Monday (Sept 6), the Government said quick action was needed to dampen the increasing likelihood of an "exponential rise" in cases, even as Singapore hits 81 per cent in its full vaccination rate.
Finance Minister Lawrence Wong announced more frequent rostered routine testing for people in higher-risk settings, and mandatory testing and self-isolation for those who get health risk warnings. He also urged Singaporeans to limit non-essential social interactions.
Some quarters expressed disappointment, pointing out how the Government had earlier said measures would be eased once 80 per cent of the population had been fully vaccinated.
But dining at restaurants remains capped at five people if all are vaccinated, and two at hawker centres regardless of vaccination status. Working from home is still encouraged, with only half the employees allowed back at the office, and workplace socialising in the office is prohibited.



Explaining the decision further last Friday, Trade and Industry Minister Gan Kim Yong, a co-chairman of the multi-ministry task force tackling Covid-19, said: "We want to be cautious and give ourselves more time to be certain that the high number of daily cases will not result in a high number of serious cases or deaths."
Further relaxation of measures would be postponed for two to three more weeks, the task force said.
Its main fear is hospital services being overwhelmed with the rise in infections.
As a precaution, the Ministry of Health has told public hospitals to postpone non-urgent cases to free up room for the surge in Covid-19 patients. Non-urgent or elective cases include treatment of serious ailments, such as surgery for cancer.

Looking at the current Covid-19 numbers, the Government's recent moves seem, to me, way too precautionary.
There are now more than 700 Covid-19 patients in hospital but many of them could actually be recovering at home.
Health Minister Ong Ye Kung pointed out that "the large majority of infected patients are in hospital more for observation, and most are discharged uneventfully".
Hence the decision, announced last Friday, to allow more Covid-19 patients to recover at home, instead of occupying a hospital bed.
A further 2,000 infected adults below the age of 60 who are well or only mildly ill, are housed at community care facilities.
Of the current hospitalised patients, 35 need oxygen and seven are in intensive care.
These might seem like small numbers, but director of medical services Kenneth Mak noted that the Delta variant spreading here now doubles the risk of serious illness compared with earlier variants.
The task force ministers also stressed that it is not the current numbers, but those that may be coming, that are worrying.
There is a roughly two-week time lag between infection and serious illness where a patient needs oxygen or intensive care. So a rule of thumb tells us that the 42 seriously ill people on Sunday are based on the 120 newly infected people identified a fortnight ago.

MORE ON THIS TOPIC​

People need to act to avoid Covid-19 cases rising to 3,200 cases daily: Ong Ye Kung​

Daily Covid-19 cases likely to soon exceed 1,000, next 2-4 weeks crucial for S'pore​

Last Friday, there were 568 new locally transmitted Covid-19 cases. On Saturday, there were 550 such cases.
In a fortnight's time, how many will be seriously ill? Meanwhile, the number of new infections continues to rise.
Said Mr Wong: "Very soon, we will reach 1,000 new cases a day, and in a few weeks' time, we will probably get to 2,000 new cases a day."
Whether the number of seriously ill people will increase in tandem is the biggest question, but this will hopefully not materialise as more people get vaccinated.
Vaccination has a huge impact on how many people get seriously ill or die as a result of infection. So far, the rates of increase in infections and serious illness differ, with the rate of infections rising faster.
If this disconnect continues, then Singapore can safely ease measures as it shows that vaccines are doing a good job.
But if the rise in infection sees a tandem rise in serious illness, then even stricter measures might have to be imposed. This is to give seriously ill patients the best possible care and stop the healthcare system from being overwhelmed.

So far, the rates of increase in infections and serious illness differ, with the rate of infections rising faster. ST PHOTO: GIN TAY

Reflecting its concern, the task force mentioned the term "intensive care unit", or ICU, 49 times during Friday's 90-minute press conference.
Similarly, there were several references to what is happening in Israel, which has a population 50 per cent larger than Singapore's.
Israel eased measures when more than 60 per cent of the population was fully vaccinated. There was a surge in cases as thousands were infected, and it is now seeing about 25 deaths a day.
While the vaccination rate here is higher, the worry remains that Singapore's trajectory might follow Israel's.
But the latest Morbidity and Mortality Weekly report by the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention in the United States issued last Friday said that in spite of Delta being more infectious and causing more illness, the risk of infection for vaccinated people there is only around a fifth than for those not vaccinated.
Vaccines offer 10 times more protection against the need for hospital care or death, the report said.
In Singapore, 99.3 per cent of fully vaccinated people who get infected have been mildly sick or asymptomatic. In other words, only seven out of 1,000 people infected risk severe illness or death. In contrast, among the unvaccinated, 45 out of 1,000 people infected became seriously ill.

MORE ON THIS TOPIC​

Singapore's unique position means few yardsticks to refer to in Covid-19 fight: Kenneth Mak​

What seniors and other vulnerable groups can do to protect themselves from Covid-19​

Over the past four weeks, 3,516 vaccinated people were infected, with 25 getting seriously ill. While only 616 who were not vaccinated were infected, they accounted for 28 seriously ill patients.
Of the 58 people who have died as a result of Covid-19 here, only one was fully vaccinated.
The problem clearly lies with people who have not been vaccinated.
To date, 84 per cent of the population have received at least one jab of a vaccine. About half of those not vaccinated are children under the age of 12, for whom there is currently no approved vaccine. There are also some people for whom vaccines are not a medically viable option.
It is the estimated 500,000 people who are eligible but have chosen not to get vaccinated who are threatening the healthcare system.

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They are more likely to need hospital care, if infected. If this leads to more postponement of treatment for people with other health problems, then their choice also impacts the health of others.
Associate Professor Mak also pointed out that among symptomatic patients, those who have been vaccinated are no longer infectious after nine days, while those who have not been vaccinated could take up to 16 days to clear the viral load to the point of not being infectious.
So it is the unvaccinated people who hold the key to how fast Singapore can open up.
As Mr Ong said: "To go through this experience differently from other countries, (with) as few deaths as possible without a prolonged hard lockdown, the key is vaccination."
Perhaps it is time the Government mandated vaccination for all who are medically eligible for it.
The argument against doing so is that none of the vaccines have received normal approval. They have been approved only under pandemic conditions.
However, millions of people here, and hundreds of millions globally, have been vaccinated, with very low rates of adverse reactions.

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Previously, there were people who feared the novel messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) Covid-19 vaccines used in the national programme. But there are now other options, such as Sinovac, which uses more traditional vaccine methods. It is timely to rethink this issue.
Mandatory vaccination is not a new concept. That was largely how the world eradicated smallpox.
In Singapore, it is legally required for children to be vaccinated against diphtheria and measles.
If the Government takes over control of this key that Mr Ong mentioned, then the lock on the economy and people's lives can be opened sooner.

THE STRAITS TIMES​

This Salma Khalik always against Drs one.

You throw the patient autonomy principle at her lah.

I think need to use the right terminology.

 

[nayr69sg]

Yup. Just like some doctors here with 4 board certifications who is good at regurgitation of facts, but wholly misses the absolute greed and deceit and gullibility of humankind.

I dunno about greed ans deceit and gullibility.

But as i have shown. Patient autonomy. Drs can provide information. Educate. But we should never influence or make patients choose a particular treatment against their rights to autonomy.

Even communication also must respect their autonomy.

 

[nayr69sg]

@nirvarq @Loofydralb

By the way I am just providing information on this patient autonomy. Sharing what I know.

It is up to you guys what you want to do with that information.

I do think using the right terminology would be helpful whatever actions you guys choose or decisions you guys make.

It is not rights. It is a medical ethical principle.

 

[eatshitndie]

what about patient anatomy of chiobu? can violate or not?