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Trump is the best!
By publicly stating that Iran is "begging" or "dying to make a deal," Trump aims to project a position of strength and force the other side into a defensive negotiating posture
to keep market stabilization such that the stock investors rather believe bluff to keep in one direction up
to deceives the opposition for off-guard and delivers a final deadly blow
made diplomatic progress even with no deal in the end (as always)
to keep market stabilization such that the stock investors rather believe bluff to keep in one direction up
to deceives the opposition for off-guard and delivers a final deadly blow
made diplomatic progress even with no deal in the end (as always)
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No, let's see what he does in the next less than 15 hours
I expect him and his inner circle to lead the attack on Iran anytime now and seize Kharg Island
No jokes
Trumphhh is the best
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https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/11/world/live-news/iran-war-trump-israel-hnk
I expect him and his inner circle to lead the attack on Iran anytime now and seize Kharg Island
No jokes
Trumphhh is the best
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Trump warns the US will seize key Iranian oil export hub Kharg Island
https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/11/world/live-news/iran-war-trump-israel-hnk
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he's talking cock again
Did US sneak 100 million barrels of oil out of Hormuz, as Trump claims?
The maths doesn’t appear to hold up, even though the US has likely managed to get some oil out of the strait during the blockade.By Yashraj Sharma
Published On 11 Jun 202611 Jun 2026
Live on television, President Donald Trump, sitting in the Oval Office, told reporters on Wednesday that the United States has been sneaking millions of barrels of oil out of the Strait of Hormuz despite tensions defying Iran’s restrictions on transit through the waterway.
That is why, Trump claimed, oil prices have hovered around $90 a barrel in recent days, instead of staying above $100 a barrel as was the case in the early weeks of the US-Israel war on Iran.
The narrow, strategic waterway — which hosts 20 percent of the world’s energy flows — has largely been shut since early March after the US and Israel attacked Tehran.
In early March, Iran said it would not allow passage to any ships through the strait. Then it agreed to allow limited ships from select “friendly” countries through, on the condition that they negotiated their transit with Iran. On April 13, five days after agreeing to a ceasefire with Tehran, the US imposed a naval blockade on Iranian ships and ports.
With the US naval blockade on one side and the Iranian authorities on the other, only a few ships have been able to cross the Strait of Hormuz.
Against that backdrop, has the US indeed been able to get ships carrying millions of barrels of oil out of the strait without Iran’s permission?
What has Trump claimed?
On Wednesday, at the White House, Trump said the US has “been taking out millions of barrels of oil. Nobody knows it”.He added that Iran was blindsided by the US moves. “We took out the other night 22 ships late at night with no lights, because they don’t have any radar, because we blasted the crap out of it [Iran’s strategic infrastructure].”
The president said he was choosing to talk about this so-called secret mission because Tehran had figured it out.
Later, he repeated the claim on his Truth Social platform, saying he directed the US military last month to undertake the “secret mission to support Oil Tankers and other Commercial Ships through the Strait of Hormuz”.
He added that this effort has led to the movement of 100 million barrels of oil, transiting the strait.
“More than 200 Commercial Ships have safely traveled through the Strait. This wildly successful effort is because the UNITED STATES of AMERICA CONTROLS the Strait of Hormuz — NOT Iran,” Trump wrote.
“Their military is defeated, and their economy is lost. It’s over for Iran!”
However, Trump’s energy secretary, Chris Wright, told a congressional hearing the same day that he was not aware of the US taking millions of barrels of oil out through the Strait of Hormuz, though he added that the military helped to get some oil out of the narrow passage.
Wright clarified that the vessels making it through the strait were not Iranian.
The Gulf countries, including Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar, use the waterway to export supplies.
Did the US manage to sneak past Iran?
Let us put Trump’s claim in context. In his social media post, the president claimed the military pushed out 100 million barrels of oil through the Strait of Hormuz.Before the war broke out in the Gulf waters, about 140 vessels, including oil tankers, transited the chokepoint passage daily, sandwiched between the coasts of Iran and Oman. The passage hosted about 20 million barrels per day before tensions.
The president’s claim of 100 million barrels of oil is roughly equal to five days of pre-war output — compared with some two billion barrels that should have transited through the Strait of Hormuz over the duration of the war, if not for the ongoing conflict.
But even five days of pre-war maritime traffic through the strait would amount to about 700 ships.
And while, as Trump claimed, vessels being guided by the US military in the waterway have at times turned off their transponders, there is no evidence so far that the volume of traffic passing through the strait during the war is enough to support his claims.
Shipping tracking and intelligence companies offer differing numbers of vessels that crossed the strait since tensions began. That is because their criteria differ on what constitutes a transit.
Windward recorded nearly 80 commercial ships leaving the Gulf in the last five weeks; Lloyd’s List estimates 142 vessels have left the waters since March; and Kpler puts that number at its highest, recording 264 ship transits.
Even Kpler’s figure falls well short of the level of maritime traffic that, before the war, would have amounted to 100 million barrels of oil passing through the Strait of Hormuz.
Many of the ships that have passed through the strait have transited with Iranian authorisation — paying tolls to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) — rather than through a US scheme that kept Tehran in the dark.
Who controls the Strait of Hormuz?
The US military’s role in aiding ships is not clear. Tim Hawkins, a Central Command (CENTCOM) spokesperson, said in a statement that the forces “communicate and coordinate” with commercial ships in the area without delving into details.In the face of the US’s economically punishing naval blockade against Iran’s ports, the IRGC maintains a firm grip over the strategic waterway.
Countries friendly to Tehran — like Pakistan, India and Russia — have negotiated a transit for some of their vessels, carrying essential energy supplies. Some ships also reportedly made payments in yuan, the Chinese currency, to secure a passage.
Iran has come around to see the Strait of Hormuz as an economic lifeline in post-war times, and has introduced insurance-like charges to authorise transits. The US has opposed this imposition, and critics have said it is essentially an illegal toll booth in an international waterway.
Tehran says the Strait of Hormuz is not in international waters, but shared exclusively between Iran and Oman.
“Iran appears to be attempting to convert its geographic leverage into financial leverage,” said Oscar Seikaly, CEO of NSI Insurance Group, based in Florida, US. “The underlying idea is old: Control the chokepoint, then charge for access.”
As Al Jazeera has reported earlier, Seikaly too argued that it works out cheaper — in the long run — for ships to pay Iran a fee rather than stay stranded in the strait.
Seikaly said a very large crude carrier — also known as a VLCC tanker — would cost nearly $100,000 per day, and a 100-day delay would amount to $10m.
“That is before you even account for cargo financing, insurance complications, crew, bunkers, security, contractual penalties,” he told Al Jazeera. “In a stressed market, the real economic loss can be materially higher.”
However, paying Iran is not an option many ships opt for because “it can create sanctions exposure, legal risk, reputational risk, and insurance problems”, Seikaly said.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026...-barrels-of-oil-out-of-hormuz-as-trump-claims
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According to Prof Jiang Trump is only good at showmanship. TV host. You dont see him working. Only giving press conference and playing golf.Trump sees many steps ahead like a master chess player, only retards with Trump Derangement Syndrome believe he is a buffoon or Orange Hitler.
The specific Apache shot down was on a patrol mission, it was operating within the context of Project Freedom,(maybe escorting oil tankers out of the Hormuz Strait) a U.S. operation designed to safeguard global oil routes and ensure free navigation through the strait. Global shipping firms have largely avoided the passage recently due to the high risk of drone boat attacks and sea mines
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Looking forward to a hostage situation and I'm pretty sure this silly war will end than
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I want Trump to flatten Iran so that @syed putra can go there and rebuild his beloved country.he's talking cock again
Did US sneak 100 million barrels of oil out of Hormuz, as Trump claims?
The maths doesn’t appear to hold up, even though the US has likely managed to get some oil out of the strait during the blockade.
By Yashraj Sharma
Published On 11 Jun 202611 Jun 2026
Live on television, President Donald Trump, sitting in the Oval Office, told reporters on Wednesday that the United States has been sneaking millions of barrels of oil out of the Strait of Hormuz despite tensions defying Iran’s restrictions on transit through the waterway.
That is why, Trump claimed, oil prices have hovered around $90 a barrel in recent days, instead of staying above $100 a barrel as was the case in the early weeks of the US-Israel war on Iran.
The narrow, strategic waterway — which hosts 20 percent of the world’s energy flows — has largely been shut since early March after the US and Israel attacked Tehran.
In early March, Iran said it would not allow passage to any ships through the strait. Then it agreed to allow limited ships from select “friendly” countries through, on the condition that they negotiated their transit with Iran. On April 13, five days after agreeing to a ceasefire with Tehran, the US imposed a naval blockade on Iranian ships and ports.
With the US naval blockade on one side and the Iranian authorities on the other, only a few ships have been able to cross the Strait of Hormuz.
Against that backdrop, has the US indeed been able to get ships carrying millions of barrels of oil out of the strait without Iran’s permission?
Trump speaks in the Oval Office at the White House in Washington, DC, June 10, 2026 [Evan Vucci/Reuters]
What has Trump claimed?
On Wednesday, at the White House, Trump said the US has “been taking out millions of barrels of oil. Nobody knows it”.
He added that Iran was blindsided by the US moves. “We took out the other night 22 ships late at night with no lights, because they don’t have any radar, because we blasted the crap out of it [Iran’s strategic infrastructure].”
The president said he was choosing to talk about this so-called secret mission because Tehran had figured it out.
Later, he repeated the claim on his Truth Social platform, saying he directed the US military last month to undertake the “secret mission to support Oil Tankers and other Commercial Ships through the Strait of Hormuz”.
He added that this effort has led to the movement of 100 million barrels of oil, transiting the strait.
“More than 200 Commercial Ships have safely traveled through the Strait. This wildly successful effort is because the UNITED STATES of AMERICA CONTROLS the Strait of Hormuz — NOT Iran,” Trump wrote.
“Their military is defeated, and their economy is lost. It’s over for Iran!”
However, Trump’s energy secretary, Chris Wright, told a congressional hearing the same day that he was not aware of the US taking millions of barrels of oil out through the Strait of Hormuz, though he added that the military helped to get some oil out of the narrow passage.
Wright clarified that the vessels making it through the strait were not Iranian.
The Gulf countries, including Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar, use the waterway to export supplies.
Did the US manage to sneak past Iran?
Let us put Trump’s claim in context. In his social media post, the president claimed the military pushed out 100 million barrels of oil through the Strait of Hormuz.
Before the war broke out in the Gulf waters, about 140 vessels, including oil tankers, transited the chokepoint passage daily, sandwiched between the coasts of Iran and Oman. The passage hosted about 20 million barrels per day before tensions.
The president’s claim of 100 million barrels of oil is roughly equal to five days of pre-war output — compared with some two billion barrels that should have transited through the Strait of Hormuz over the duration of the war, if not for the ongoing conflict.
But even five days of pre-war maritime traffic through the strait would amount to about 700 ships.
And while, as Trump claimed, vessels being guided by the US military in the waterway have at times turned off their transponders, there is no evidence so far that the volume of traffic passing through the strait during the war is enough to support his claims.
Shipping tracking and intelligence companies offer differing numbers of vessels that crossed the strait since tensions began. That is because their criteria differ on what constitutes a transit.
Windward recorded nearly 80 commercial ships leaving the Gulf in the last five weeks; Lloyd’s List estimates 142 vessels have left the waters since March; and Kpler puts that number at its highest, recording 264 ship transits.
Even Kpler’s figure falls well short of the level of maritime traffic that, before the war, would have amounted to 100 million barrels of oil passing through the Strait of Hormuz.
Many of the ships that have passed through the strait have transited with Iranian authorisation — paying tolls to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) — rather than through a US scheme that kept Tehran in the dark.
The Epaminondas ship is seen during seizure by the IRGC in the Strait of Hormuz, Iran, on April 24, 2026 [Meysam Mirzadeh/Tasnim via Reuters]
Who controls the Strait of Hormuz?
The US military’s role in aiding ships is not clear. Tim Hawkins, a Central Command (CENTCOM) spokesperson, said in a statement that the forces “communicate and coordinate” with commercial ships in the area without delving into details.
In the face of the US’s economically punishing naval blockade against Iran’s ports, the IRGC maintains a firm grip over the strategic waterway.
Countries friendly to Tehran — like Pakistan, India and Russia — have negotiated a transit for some of their vessels, carrying essential energy supplies. Some ships also reportedly made payments in yuan, the Chinese currency, to secure a passage.
Iran has come around to see the Strait of Hormuz as an economic lifeline in post-war times, and has introduced insurance-like charges to authorise transits. The US has opposed this imposition, and critics have said it is essentially an illegal toll booth in an international waterway.
Tehran says the Strait of Hormuz is not in international waters, but shared exclusively between Iran and Oman.
“Iran appears to be attempting to convert its geographic leverage into financial leverage,” said Oscar Seikaly, CEO of NSI Insurance Group, based in Florida, US. “The underlying idea is old: Control the chokepoint, then charge for access.”
As Al Jazeera has reported earlier, Seikaly too argued that it works out cheaper — in the long run — for ships to pay Iran a fee rather than stay stranded in the strait.
Seikaly said a very large crude carrier — also known as a VLCC tanker — would cost nearly $100,000 per day, and a 100-day delay would amount to $10m.
“That is before you even account for cargo financing, insurance complications, crew, bunkers, security, contractual penalties,” he told Al Jazeera. “In a stressed market, the real economic loss can be materially higher.”
However, paying Iran is not an option many ships opt for because “it can create sanctions exposure, legal risk, reputational risk, and insurance problems”, Seikaly said.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026...-barrels-of-oil-out-of-hormuz-as-trump-claims
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The only way that can be done is by using Turks. Azeris. And create insurgency and civil war after a hefty infrastructure destruction.
It all depends on Israel ally Azerbaijan if they are keen. I think azeris are about 10%of Iran population.
They tried that with Baluchis in the south but they are not keen as already entwined with war on Pakistan where main objective is to obstruct china port and pipeline, highway, railway construction if it happens. This port, if it starts will benefit Afghanistan. But money talks as CIA funds third world destruction.
In a move consistent with his past where he tweeted openly in social media post, President Donald Trump threatened last night to "hit very hard" on Iran, specifically targeting Kharg Island. Most probably he will call off the next minute as just hours after issuing the threat, the President called off the planned strike, signaling instead that a significant breakthrough in negotiations had been reached.
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