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drifter

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Psalm23

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Today’s Scripture Reading [September 26, 2010]

The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts. [Psalm 10:4. KJV]


Several years ago, I was working as a volunteer in one of the social agencies. This agency provided services to general public like teaching people how to manage work and life stress, and also provide counseling services to family members whose relatives were suffering from mental illness. Many of these volunteers were medical professionals specializing in psychiatric medicine as well as social works in counseling and care. Though my work there was primarily assisting in the administration, nonetheless I enjoyed working with these professionals because they could share with us the first-hand knowledge of what actually happening in our society where people are facing so much uncertainties and life challenges. On one occasion, I asked one of the volunteer psychiatrists what was the state of mental health in Singapore. What he told me was quite a shock. He said that the government could increase any number of beds in mental hospitals and he could fill them up all in days. What he meant was that there were so many people seem to have mental problems and were walking like living zombies. At anytime, they could explode into violence or turn suicidal! That was almost 15 years ago and I believe the situation is not getting better today. If anything can go by, I think the society we live in is even in greater dire state as far as good mental health is concerned. For example, teen suicides which were unheard of previously are now they are quite common, and just in almost all suicides, they were due to mental problems that can be caused by relationship breakdown, financial and in the case of teens, school work and examination, and last but not least, lack of life purpose. People find that it is not worth living anymore.

Are we really all so sick? The answer is quite obvious. Looking at the number of new hospitals and the recent complaints of patients that they had to wait for a long queue in the hospitals for their turns to be treated, or admitted to the ward, it is very foolish for us to deny that we are not sick but well – physically, mentally and spiritually. How could you not get sick when you enjoy your lives like there is no tomorrow, when you reject God’s law and live in wickedness, when you have so strong hatred against your Creator, when your thoughts are filled with jealousy, envies, covetousness, revenge and hatred! God does not make people sick and so don’t blame Him for your sickness. He doesn’t want people to suffer, let alone want to see them sick! We can see this by looking at the life of Jesus. He healed the sick. He cured people. All our sicknesses are boiled down to just this three-letter word: SIN. Yes, we are simply living in this sin-sick world! In Romans 3:23 we are told that for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23). And it is sin that separates us from God; it is sin that causes us sickness, it is sin that ultimately brings death, not just to our physical body but our soul.

What then is sin? Depending on who you ask and the religious belief of each individual, everyone seems to define sin differently. Some may define it more leniently than others. For example, some may view sins as merely some wrong-doings while others blatantly compromised their own actions and thoughts and say to themselves: “As long as I don’t do harm to other people, it should be alright. What I do is none of other’s business.” Others may confine their definition of sin to someone who does heinous crimes like murder or rape. There is no one standard definition because what is sin to one may not be sin to another.

However, the scriptural definition of sin that God has prescribed to us is very clear. Sin is putting our will ahead of God’s will; it simply means missing God’s mark and the following quotes taken from a theological book gives a good biblical perspective of what sin is:

“Scripture diagnoses sin as a universal deformity of human nature, found at every point in every person. Both the Old and the New Testaments in the Bible have names for it that display its ethical character as rebellion against God’s rule, missing the mark God set us to aim at, transgressing God’s law, disobeying God’s directives, offending God’s purity by defiling oneself, and incurring guilt before God the Judge. This moral deformity is dynamic: sin stands revealed as an energy of irrational, negative, and rebellious reaction to God’s call and command, a spirit of fighting God in order to play God. The root of sin is pride and enmity against God, the spirit seen in Adam’s first transgression; and sinful acts always have behind them thoughts, motives, and desires that one way or another express the willful opposition of the fallen heart to God’s claims on our lives.”

From the above quote and as true believers of Jesus, we can conclude that we are all but sinner and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). The next important question that we need to ask ourselves is: How then do we need to move forward from here so that we can become sinless? Humanly-speaking, it is an impossible task because no matter how hard we tried to be good, we are just beyond repair as our thoughts and our motives are diagonally opposing God’s laws. But by the grace of God, He has done it all, all for our sake. This is how God accomplished it: He sent His only begotten Son, Jesus to be the sacrificial Lamb by dying on the cross and by the blood of Jesus, we all can now say: “I am sinless now because the blood of Jesus has washed away all of my sins.” Hence, if we accept Jesus and ask Him to come to our hearts, His gifts of forgiveness, grace and mercy will set free from our sins and we are able to re-establish our relationship and our communion with our Mighty God. We must, however, recognize that when it comes to relationship, our relationship with God is no difference from that of our spouses, our children, our relatives or even with our friends. Relationship, whether it is with God or with others, is always moving either forward or backward. We must therefore take a conscious effort to determine which direction we want the relationship to end up. It is the direction in which we chose to travel that will make all the difference because how we set the direction will inevitable determine whether we will make or will break the relationship. If you are right here in Singapore and you want to go to Sydney, Australia and start to travel north, you will never reach Sydney. It is the direction that determines our destination not just the path that you select. Even though we may choose a right path we may not end up in the destination that we want to reach. A right direction will get you to the right destination, and a wrong direction will bring you to the wrong destination. Just like a compass which is an indispensible tool to explorers, we must remind ourselves that our heaven-bound journey too requires an indispensible tool, the Word of God, to guide our direction which God has intended for us.

In Proverbs 3:5-6, it says: “Trust in the LORD with all your heart; and lean not your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct your paths.” This is a wonderful advice for all of us. We must begin our path with godly direction and we must always travel with God’s component and not based on our own desires. This requires total surrender of our lives to God, and He has promised us that if we were to obey Him and keep His covenant, we will be blessed us (Deuteronomy 7:12-13). God wants us to pay attention to Him and to turn our eyes away from worthless things of the world (Psalm 119:37).

We are now in a chaotic age where we can hardly find men truly touched by God and willing to stand up for His Kingdom. Instead, we see there are more grafts and corruptions in high places than ever before. People who are elected to supposedly serve the people are abusing their offices to bully people. In some countries, police and criminals are simply indistinguishable. There were reports of police who gave protection to mafia who in turn shared their ill-gotten wealth with the police! Thankfully, God is expert in creating purpose and direction out of chaos, beauty out of ashes. Although we cannot determine the directions of others but we can definitely set our own directions. We can consciously let our God-given conscience to direct our actions, our thoughts. This calls for evaluation of our relationship with God and we must continuously be reminded of:

• the consequences and tragedies that sins can bring, not just to us, but also to people around us;
• the sovereignty and greatness of God and His demands of us which is very simple – to walk and be directed by Him and no one else;
• the selfishness and sinfulness are still very much of our carnal nature but by the grace of God, we are made righteous because of the sacrificial blood of the Lamb of God;
• the heaven proves His glory and we are to glorify our God in our holy living and in our daily worship of Him;
• the Calvary Cross proves the everlasting love of God and we too need to carry the cross of Jesus daily to reciprocate our love and trust of Him;
• the blood of Jesus proves He has forgiven all our sins and that His blood can cover all multitude of our sins - past, present and future;
• the empty tomb proves His victory and that we too can live a victorious life regardless of our situation.

Let us therefore then rest in the Lord. Just sit back with perfect confidence by putting our situation before Him and ask from Him for direction because His ways are higher than our ways, and His thoughts higher than our thoughts (Isaiah 55:9). As we enter into a new age of victorious living, all we have to do is to trust the Lord and do good (Psalm 37:3) for He is our strength and our shield (Psalm 28:7) and we will fear no evil (Psalm 23:4) because if God is with us, who can be against us (Romans 8:31).

God is God and nothing can change this. Whether you believe there is God, it makes no difference to Him. But remember that we are but dust. So each time you do some spring cleaning in your house and when you look at those dust that you have swept, remember yourself that spiritually we are just like those dirt. But the blood of Jesus is powerful. It cleanses away all our dirt, our sins! Nothing but the Blood of Jesus!
 

Psalm23

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Thank God....we have the Holy Spirit to convict us that God is real; Jesus is real. The greatest tragedy that could occur to humanity is that there is really no God. But this is an impossibility. The heaven declares God's glory; the Word of God, the Bible, declares His Message, our sinful and lawless behaviour cried out that we are in need of God. If you want to know whether God is real or not, you don't need to look further than yourself. All you need is to sincerely open our heart and to search your heart for the truth of who you are and what you are, and God will reveal Himself to you in the most minute detail. Do not let the Blood of Jesus poured out in vain. Accept His redeeming blood right now! Do not drift away from the truth of God: For God so loved the world that He sent His only begotten Son, Jesus, whosoever believed in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16).

God Bless and have a great blessed week ahead but remember put God first in all the things that we do.
 
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so you dont believe in nonsense ? what about talking snake ? virgin birth ? living in a fish stomach for 3 days ? parting sea ? walking on water ? rise from the dead ....ect ? does it sound like harry potter book :wink:?

all "pestors" are the same ...they are no different from one another .

if your invisible man care for you ....why cant he make all christains happy ? no road accident for christains , no divorce for christains , make all christains rich. invisible man can heal christains amputee ? no suffering for all christains . dont be delusion !!! either your god is useless or there is no god .

i dont believe a god who is so self-praise (sound like your own goverment ) . he is insecure ? :rolleyes:

in fact i dont believe in any fucking god out there !!!!:biggrin:


That's your real problem isn't it?

Life has not been kind to you and you blame God for not preventing it.




I have answers to all your questions but such answers are meaningful only to me. You will need to find your own answers. To get meaningful answers, you must consider the possibility that the problems in your life are due to people including yourself.

Sure, one day He will wipe every tear from our eyes, comfort those whose loved ones died from road accidents due to people who drink and drive; free both the adulterer and the victim, from guilt and anger; give meaning to life beyond wealth, making each Christian rich beyond words for knowing Him; giving the lame a new leg; bringing an end to Death and Suffering.

The question is whether you will get to experience this wonderful world of freedom from sorrow? Tell me, do you still need a machine to prove that it can happen before you find another reason not to believe?

And the more important question is: isn't all these what you really wanted from God? That you will have a rich and meaningful life.

Then why not give yourself a chance instead of trying to destroy the faith of others by posting nonsense? Nonsense that comes from Disappointment. A disappointment that is caused by Man, not God.

And you are part of Man, that human animal that brings harm to others, indifferent to the wrongs you did to others but alive to the injustices done to you.
 

drifter

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That's your real problem isn't it?

Life has not been kind to you and you blame God for not preventing it.




luckly my life is good ...im talking about those people that are not as luckly as me ...so you only praise your invisible man for all the good things that happens around earth but put the blame on satan if something goes wrong ? is your invisible man so in secure and need to praise all the time ? :biggrin::wink:


i thought your invisible man so powerful that can control everything on earth ? why cant he makes everyone happy ? either he is useless or he dont exists ...you pick . :biggrin:

and why cant your fucking invisible man cure amputees ? :biggrin::wink:

you are just delusion . :biggrin::wink:
 

drifter

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Jesus is real. Otherwise why am i writing all these.

does it also mean that JK ROWLING harrypotter books are facts ? :wink: base on your theory ...you are delusion ...:wink:

what you talk does not make any sense ....you have been brain washed ...you need to take medicine fast . :biggrin::smile:
 

Psalm23

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i think you are a nice person ...but please do mankind a big favour ...do not spread religion . religion makes a man lost his common sense . thankyou .

This is exactly why we need God because His thoughts are higher than our thoughts and His ways are higher than our ways. Man relies on his common-sense, what he sees which are nothing but evil. But becoming a Christian still don't make us a good man. Christians are still sinful but the big difference is that each time we sinned, there is a tinkling sensual to tell us that 'hey, you should not be doing this because you are a child of God.' Non-believers, unfortunately don't have this tinkling sensation that's why people keep committing offences one after another. If you will to talk to prison officers they can tell you that some people treated prison like hotel. They are so get use to it. Likewise, non-believers treat like this world because they get use to it and to live in a strange environment - spiritually-speaking - they could not get us to it. For Christians too - we need time to get use to this new environment after having knew Jesus as our person Saviour. God knew that and that's why He has provided to us His Word, the Bible. Over time, our daily consumption of His Word will let us be accustomed to the presence of the new environment that is Spirit-controlled environment.

Perhaps you don't like the word "pray' so I like to advise to just open your heart and sincerely cry out from your heart like: Am I really a good man? If there is really a God, can I really see Him with my current state? Even for a earthly King or even a President, I can't even get close to 100 meters from where the King or the President stayed, how could the Holy God can allow me to even enter His Kingdom with my depraved state?

And at the end you still think that you are a good man, or there is no God, and at some point your ancestors just evolved from a piece of rock to a crocodile to a monkey and finally to you, then so be it. I don't know whether I want to say you are a nice person or not (but at least to show that you are a nice just stop using those 4-letter word), but please stop writing to tell people that there is no God and to tell people the best way to live is to follow you (impliedly that seems to be your message). It is interesting that there are videos in the Youtube broadcasting the debate between Christians and Muslims leaders. I am so fascinated to note that those debates were extremely cordial even though they disagree whether the God in the Bible or Muslim is the true God and whether the Bible or the Quran is the Word of God. The primariy sources of their debates were the Bible and the Quran. You can search of these debates in the Youtube. They are very civilized people and you don't get any sense of hostility among them. Even questions from the audience were very civilized. For people who are really seeking to find out about God - whether there is one and if there is One, who is that God - they tend to be very civilized in their approach. At least, they have some tangible source of references like using the Bible or the Quran. I noted that this is so different from what we read here. Almost everyone who write to tell you that Jesus is not real, and/or there is no God, you can be quite sure that 4-letter word would follow them without blinking their eyes! Worst some even used use words like 'basxxxxx, che...b.....". This is really a shame. I am a Chinese and sadly I noted that most of these words or languages are use by the Chinese especially when it comes to the debate on religion, and they boast so much about Confucian teaching, moral, ethnics, obeying their ancestors through ancestorship. It's really a shame to keep using those words! From the threads, I noted that they are mature people perhaps old enough to be fathers or even grandfathers. I wonder what would their children or grandchildren were to read what they wrote! it's really a shame!

Our message as Christians is to tell people - never and never means never, never follow man. The only way for man to get saved is to follow Jesus. Remember what Prophet Isaiah said: All men's righteousness are like filthy rags." 'Rag' is not dirty piece of linen but the Hebrew word used by Isaiah is a piece of sanitary napkin used by woman during her menstration. So, if you think you are a nice person and a good person - just remember what Prophet Isaiah has said. Frankly, we are all just that dirty - our mind or thoughts are simply abomination to God. Because Jesus died for us and through His redeeming blood, the Lamb of God has imputed His righteousness to us and through this imputed righteousness, we can then enter into His Kingdom. The condition is: You must accept the Lamb of God, Jesus, as your Saviour!

God Bless

Mr. Psalm23
 
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Psalm23

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if jesus is real ...he will deleted all my post ....:smile:

No! Jesus will not remove your post. All your posts will be shown to you on the Judgment Day. What you have written are dated with the year "2010, in the Year of Our Lord Jesus Christ!" You will see and read them again and again and again throughout eternality. The big question is: You will not be reading from your computer screen and perhaps at the comfort of your home. I will leave it to guess where you are going to read all your posts one second after the Judgment Day!
 

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No! Jesus will not remove your post. All your posts will be shown to you on the Judgment Day. What you have written are dated with the year "2010, in the Year of Our Lord Jesus Christ!" You will see and read them again and again and again throughout eternality. The big question is: You will not be reading from your computer screen and perhaps at the comfort of your home. I will leave it to guess where you are going to read all your posts one second after the Judgment Day!

Actually the big question is why is there a need for judgement day if Jesus has already paid for the sins of mankind?
This is to me one of the many many illogical concepts in Christianity.
If Jesus had already died and cleansed us of our sins then really the judgement day argument does not hold. For what is there to judge anymore unless you say our sins arent truly forgiven in which case they crucufied Jesus in vain.
So who is judgement day for and for what will the people be judged?? Are they are going to be judged by their deeds or their belief? cos belief is very straightforward either you are a christian or youre not.


Again i put to you to really search your soul and ask yourself ...Can someone really die and pay for the sins of others? Can you put to death an innocent being for a murder he did not commit?
that is your first and foremost question you have to sincerely answer because it is simply not reasonable nor is it comprehensible that GOD Almighty punishes an innocent being in order to let the guilty ones go free.
I know your answer will be like we are humans we do not know what God has in His Big plans.BUt one thing we do know is that God will never ever be irrational and He will never be unjust.So is it just to make an innocent person pay for the guilty ones? no court in the world will do this and if there ever is a judge who does this you can conclude there must be some corruption involved or that the judge has made a mistake.


And then again the Christian argument is to say that it wasnt an ordinary person who died it was the Son of God who was erm actually God himself..He just came as His Son so that He can die and purify the world of their sins.So the irrationality builds up ..I ask then if God was His Son and HIs Son was God? and so God died?? can God die? when He died who was in power for three days and three nights? the Father you say so then they are different entities the Father is not the Son and neither is the Son the Father.

"I and my Father are One" can thus only mean one in purpose not in person or being..otherwise the above paragraph will continue to dog and confuse you.and finally GOD ALmighty is not the author of confusion!
Thank you
 

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Actually the big question is why is there a need for judgement day if Jesus has already paid for the sins of mankind?
This is to me one of the many many illogical concepts in Christianity.
If Jesus had already died and cleansed us of our sins then really the judgement day argument does not hold. For what is there to judge anymore unless you say our sins arent truly forgiven in which case they crucufied Jesus in vain.
So who is judgement day for and for what will the people be judged?? Are they are going to be judged by their deeds or their belief? cos belief is very straightforward either you are a christian or youre not.


Again i put to you to really search your soul and ask yourself ...Can someone really die and pay for the sins of others? Can you put to death an innocent being for a murder he did not commit?
that is your first and foremost question you have to sincerely answer because it is simply not reasonable nor is it comprehensible that GOD Almighty punishes an innocent being in order to let the guilty ones go free.
I know your answer will be like we are humans we do not know what God has in His Big plans.BUt one thing we do know is that God will never ever be irrational and He will never be unjust.So is it just to make an innocent person pay for the guilty ones? no court in the world will do this and if there ever is a judge who does this you can conclude there must be some corruption involved or that the judge has made a mistake.


And then again the Christian argument is to say that it wasnt an ordinary person who died it was the Son of God who was erm actually God himself..He just came as His Son so that He can die and purify the world of their sins.So the irrationality builds up ..I ask then if God was His Son and HIs Son was God? and so God died?? can God die? when He died who was in power for three days and three nights? the Father you say so then they are different entities the Father is not the Son and neither is the Son the Father.

"I and my Father are One" can thus only mean one in purpose not in person or being..otherwise the above paragraph will continue to dog and confuse you.and finally GOD ALmighty is not the author of confusion!
Thank you

Dear guy-uninterrupted,

Wouldn't you find it very intriguing on those questions you raised? How come for ages people have sacrificed animals to atone their sins but they were and still are so readily believed that the blood of animals can be a sacrifice and appease gods. People like you, for example, don't seem to bother to ask about animal sacrifice but when we share the message of Jesus, the Son of God, is used as sacrificial Lamb, you have such great disagreement. (My apologies to those who are involved in animal sacrifices but I am just sharing some of my thoughts. I don't mean to be little those who believe in animal sacrifices.)

Base on your argument, no man can pay the sin for others, then how come animal can atone or pay the sin for others? You should be asking this question.

Another intriquing thing is that we are in danger of causing religious disharmony when we tell people animal sacrifice is not to be practiced, but when others tell Christians that it is pure nonsense for God to become a Man and to die for the sin of mankind, it seems that this is ok; they are not causing any religious disharmony.

[Another thousand apologies to the Taoists especially those who believe in animal sacrifice. I respect your belief but I am just illustrating my point that there are many standards of treatment when it comes to religion belief.]
 

drifter

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This is exactly why we need God because His thoughts are higher than our thoughts and His ways are higher than our ways. Man relies on his common-sense, what he sees which are nothing but evil. But becoming a Christian still don't make us a good man. Christians are still sinful but the big difference is that each time we sinned, there is a tinkling sensual to tell us that 'hey, you should not be doing this because you are a child of God.' Non-believers, unfortunately don't have this tinkling sensation that's why people keep committing offences one after another. If you will to talk to prison officers they can tell you that some people treated prison like hotel. They are so get use to it. Likewise, non-believers treat like this world because they get use to it and to live in a strange environment - spiritually-speaking - they could not get us to it. For Christians too - we need time to get use to this new environment after having knew Jesus as our person Saviour. God knew that and that's why He has provided to us His Word, the Bible. Over time, our daily consumption of His Word will let us be accustomed to the presence of the new environment that is Spirit-controlled environment.

Perhaps you don't like the word "pray' so I like to advise to just open your heart and sincerely cry out from your heart like: Am I really a good man? If there is really a God, can I really see Him with my current state? Even for a earthly King or even a President, I can't even get close to 100 meters from where the King or the President stayed, how could the Holy God can allow me to even enter His Kingdom with my depraved state?

And at the end you still think that you are a good man, or there is no God, and at some point your ancestors just evolved from a piece of rock to a crocodile to a monkey and finally to you, then so be it. I don't know whether I want to say you are a nice person or not (but at least to show that you are a nice just stop using those 4-letter word), but please stop writing to tell people that there is no God and to tell people the best way to live is to follow you (impliedly that seems to be your message). It is interesting that there are videos in the Youtube broadcasting the debate between Christians and Muslims leaders. I am so fascinated to note that those debates were extremely cordial even though they disagree whether the God in the Bible or Muslim is the true God and whether the Bible or the Quran is the Word of God. The primariy sources of their debates were the Bible and the Quran. You can search of these debates in the Youtube. They are very civilized people and you don't get any sense of hostility among them. Even questions from the audience were very civilized. For people who are really seeking to find out about God - whether there is one and if there is One, who is that God - they tend to be very civilized in their approach. At least, they have some tangible source of references like using the Bible or the Quran. I noted that this is so different from what we read here. Almost everyone who write to tell you that Jesus is not real, and/or there is no God, you can be quite sure that 4-letter word would follow them without blinking their eyes! Worst some even used use words like 'basxxxxx, che...b.....". This is really a shame. I am a Chinese and sadly I noted that most of these words or languages are use by the Chinese especially when it comes to the debate on religion, and they boast so much about Confucian teaching, moral, ethnics, obeying their ancestors through ancestorship. It's really a shame to keep using those words! From the threads, I noted that they are mature people perhaps old enough to be fathers or even grandfathers. I wonder what would their children or grandchildren were to read what they wrote! it's really a shame!

Our message as Christians is to tell people - never and never means never, never follow man. The only way for man to get saved is to follow Jesus. Remember what Prophet Isaiah said: All men's righteousness are like filthy rags." 'Rag' is not dirty piece of linen but the Hebrew word used by Isaiah is a piece of sanitary napkin used by woman during her menstration. So, if you think you are a nice person and a good person - just remember what Prophet Isaiah has said. Frankly, we are all just that dirty - our mind or thoughts are simply abomination to God. Because Jesus died for us and through His redeeming blood, the Lamb of God has imputed His righteousness to us and through this imputed righteousness, we can then enter into His Kingdom. The condition is: You must accept the Lamb of God, Jesus, as your Saviour!

God Bless

Mr. Psalm23



you dont need hell as punishment and heaven as a reward ...those things are use to control human . for non-believer ..they control their own life . remember its religions that separate human being ..holy war , 911 ...ect . they think that " my god is better then yours " ! its very dangerous .

i cant believe you are so delusion to have believe that jesus die for you ...its just a book written donkey years ago !!!

are you so stupid to believe in taliking snake , walking on water , staying alive in a fish stomach for 3 days , parting sea ? those things only happens in fairy tales book . you christains have no basic common sense ...kruppppppppui

if you think that god is so powerful so mighty ...why cant he handle money ? why must you give church $ every month ? if he is so powerful as you said , do you think he need your money ?

if there is god , why bulid hospitals ? why your pope need bodyguard ? why your church need your money ? think !!! you have been brainwashed ....
 

drifter

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
No! Jesus will not remove your post. All your posts will be shown to you on the Judgment Day. What you have written are dated with the year "2010, in the Year of Our Lord Jesus Christ!" You will see and read them again and again and again throughout eternality. The big question is: You will not be reading from your computer screen and perhaps at the comfort of your home. I will leave it to guess where you are going to read all your posts one second after the Judgment Day!

judgement day ? my ass !!! you are just having fucking blind faith ..thats all . your fucking god cant even stop me from insulting him ...:biggrin:

you christains are so delusion ...to believe in something that will never happen . your fucking brain is worst then a 7 years old kid .

if there is god ...let him strike me now ...see nothin happens ..because there is no god !!!! :biggrin::wink:
 

drifter

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
for those who believe in theres heaven after death ...why not die now since you guys love to go heaven so much !! why must you guys go hospital ?
 

drifter

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
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