TKL breaks 20-year friendship with wong wee nam over PE

[kingrant]

Tend to agree with yr pov.TKL is just petty. The more he rants, the more he'll lose. As Confucius said, He who throws m&d at others tend to lose ground.

Bro, that's a tad unfair to Dr WWN. When WWN's article on TKL first appeared on TOC, Tan jee say was not yet in the running. It is understandable that one switches allegiances when new contenders appear. It is not a matter of consistency.TKL is very petty and it shows. He has lost the election deposit, he has lost his reputation, and now he has also lost his friends. I think TKL is the real clown here.

 

[kingrant]

If I recall well, WWN was quite reserved with adjectives abt TKL and admitted he hardly knew him. hence his piece on him wasnt so exalting as his piece on TJS whom he knew better. In both pieces, I thought WN wrote honestly and candidly, giving credit where it's due. It's just like any reference letter that one would write for someone looking for a job, a University admission. So shld one only limit oneself to one letter and not to any one else?Also things change, new developments occur, so in politics, there are no permanent enemies or allies. I wont say friends, as clearly TKL was not a real friend of WWN just an acquaintance at the same school.

Wong Wee Nam is really a clown. He wrote a supporting positive article about TKL, highlighting positive attributes and a few weeks later he endorses TJS in writing as the President. TCB was smart enough to tell him that he needed no help from him. Obviously TKL does not want to know him anymore. Rather than screwing himself and others by his conduct, he should be very clear who he supports in the first place. Would you want to have a friend like that trying to help you?

 

[zeddy]

TKL got to stop his public rantings. he is behaving like a jilted lover.. The PE is already over now.. All the noises he make will reflect badly on him.. So far, the other defeated candidates are implementing a dignified silence... He should just move on and get over his PE loss..

 

[steffychun]

TKL got to stop his public rantings. he is behaving like a jilted lover.. The PE is already over now.. All the noises he make will reflect badly on him.. So far, the other defeated candidates are implementing a dignified silence... He should just move on and get over his PE loss..

Its' not like TJS hasnt been ranting

 

[scroobal]

I think some of you might be missing the point. Forget it was TKL, TJS and TCB.

If you are invited to endorse someone in competition, it means there is a level of trust and understanding. No one forced Wong Wee Nam to write that particular article. Having done so, he then finds that there is a better candidate and he prefers to support that candidate. The decent thing to do help is to support the new party quietly.

When he endorsed TJS after the article on TKL, I realised that an error of judgement had occurred on his part. But when he wrote this recent article about knowing all 4, I have to agree with Refulgence that it is unprincipled.

 

[steffychun]

I think some of you might be missing the point. Forget it was TKL, TJS and TCB.

If you are invited to endorse someone in competition, it means there is a level of trust and understanding. No one forced Wong Wee Nam to write that particular article. Having done so, he then finds that there is a better candidate and he prefers to support that candidate. The decent thing to do help but do realise that you have agreed to endorse someone else previously. Clearly his words are not his bond.

When he realised that he opened endorsed TJS after the article on TKL, I realised that an error of judgement had occurred on his part. But when he wrote this particular article about knowing all 4, I have to agree with Refulgence that is unprincipled.

The switch of support, however, was significant.

 

[kingrant]

bro,

If I were TKL I wouldnt begrudge WWN. After all, the loss margin was very wide - night and day. Politics is like that. I really doubt his later letter on TJS made all that difference.

TKL should know that WWN's letter is not exclusive. Any politician should realise that. If soembody writes me a nice article, I would still fight tooth and nail on my own, and not rely on other's refs. Also, that letter was not really extolling. in fact, TKL should have found it non-committal, and took it from there.

The best man wins. he not only lost to TJS, he lost also his deposit. That surely is making mountains out of molehills of WWN's letter of support. If I lose, I blame myself, nobody else.

Ambition must be made of sterner stuff.

I think some of you might be missing the point. Forget it was TKL, TJS and TCB.

If you are invited to endorse someone in competition, it means there is a level of trust and understanding. No one forced Wong Wee Nam to write that particular article. Having done so, he then finds that there is a better candidate and he prefers to support that candidate. The decent thing to do help is to support the new party quietly.

When he endorsed TJS after the article on TKL, I realised that an error of judgement had occurred on his part. But when he wrote this recent article about knowing all 4, I have to agree with Refulgence that it is unprincipled.

 

[Kid278]

I think some of you might be missing the point. Forget it was TKL, TJS and TCB.

If you are invited to endorse someone in competition, it means there is a level of trust and understanding. No one forced Wong Wee Nam to write that particular article. Having done so, he then finds that there is a better candidate and he prefers to support that candidate. The decent thing to do help is to support the new party quietly.

When he endorsed TJS after the article on TKL, I realised that an error of judgement had occurred on his part. But when he wrote this recent article about knowing all 4, I have to agree with Refulgence that it is unprincipled.

It's a matter of opinion. There's no rule, even unwritten that says no one is allow to endorse more than one candidate. It appears to me that TKL in this instance is being petty begrudging WWN whom I think is entitled to his opinion on both candidates. In the name of a political game, you dont win you lose, simple s that.

 

[ruffles]

Btw, actually GCT is the one that truly knows the 4 PE candidates well

Candidate A: his RI classmate
Candidate B: his PPS for 5 years
Candidate C: his Cabinet colleague
Candidate D: his PAP MP branch secretary

 

[scroobal]

You are indeed right about GCT. Tells you how independent this whole thing is.

 

[bhoven]

You are indeed right about GCT. Tells you how independent this whole thing is.

And how incestous politics can be....think of all the various blood or through- marriage relationships among Ministers, MPs even from earliest days....the deliberate policy of golden cuffing all promising talents through scholarships at the post A level and inducting them subsequently into public service and the armed forces and fast tracking them in their careers was an extension of this....

 

[scroobal]

Agree. In 1985, old man went one better. He pushed a programme to improve the gene pool but matching making scholars. Philip Yeo went one better, he initiated a programme to begin the matching before they leave for overseas studies. There is a induction programme and they have to return after their first year and do another one. It has been a roaring success with match rate very high. One unexpected result is the number of marriage to foreigners amongst this lot has fallen. It gave to the rise of the supper couple. Both earning $400k per year by the time they reach 30yrs of age in the civil service. Now there is another programme where one spouse is encouraged to take entrepreneurship with seed funding while other spouse is safely anchored in the civil service. Don!t surprised that in 10 years time, every candidate opposition or otherwise will come from this lot. An incestuous elite and the word peasant will actually reflect it's actual meaning.

And how incestous politics can be....think of all the various blood or through- marriage relationships among Ministers, MPs even from earliest days....the deliberate policy of golden cuffing all promising talents through scholarships at the post A level and inducting them subsequently into public service and the armed forces and fast tracking them in their careers was an extension of this....

 

[Satyr]

I have a different perspective.

Wee Nam wrote nice things about TKL which is fine. That was before TJS came along. When TJS came, between TKL and TJS, he choose to endorse TJS but that doesn't mean that he has changed his opinion on TKL.

In the last US presidential campaign several prominent people switched support from Hillary to Obama after Obama appeared on the scene. I think some of them might have been considered her friends. Hillary never disowned them, not publicly anyway. Even if she had done privately it would have come out somehow.

Colin Powell backed Obama over McCain even though McCain was a friend. It's not about friendship but about who makes a better President. If TKL feels that way, it is just as well he was never voted in.

 

[Seee3]

Too free tonight and decided to read the article in detail. Noted the following lines at the end :

"I don’t blame this friend. Presidential candidates are also human but I do hope he will take a look at two of the most illustrious emperors from China. The first is Emperor Tang Taizong from the Tang Dynasty.

....he was impressed with Wei’s loyalty to Li Jiancheng, and he made Wei his prime minister

....On the recommendation of his adviser, Bao Shuya, he made Guan Zhong, the failed assassin, to be the prime minister

Winston Churchill said, “In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Goodwill."



Did we mistaken the so call friend of 20 years to be TKL?

Why is he asking of magnanimity and citing examples of past emperors where TKL is not the winner?

Is the article intended for TT?

 

[byleftcan]

Btw, actually GCT is the one that truly knows the 4 PE candidates well

Candidate A: his RI classmate
Candidate B: his PPS for 5 years
Candidate C: his Cabinet colleague
Candidate D: his PAP MP branch secretary

Good observation!