Chitchat They lied all the time...

[Patriot]

Even without scripture it can caused death too. Look at China, just one example

Just a shot vid.

 

[nightsafari]

Sounds like najib and jho low.

yes, but you forgot 1 more important player. najib's controller.

 

[syed putra]

Jump from the frying pan and into the fire.

 

[Patriot]

Jump from the frying pan and into the fire.

Psalm 14 King James Version (KJV)
14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

 

[tanwahtiu]

John 8:32..

Psalm 14 King James Version (KJV)
14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

 

[whoami]

ok so with full respect what does scripture actually do for us then?

Quran is the Word of Allah. HE will guide u to the straight path i.e. if u follow his commandment. U will benefit this world and Hearafter too.

Btw do u know even by listening attentively to the recitation of the Quran, it can move u to tears? What more if u understand the meaning.

 

[whoami]

Theres no compulsion in Islam as stated in the Quran. There will always be murtad on both sides. There are so many priests, pastors converted to Islam too. U need to google or go Youtube.

 

[Patriot]

John 8:32..

John 8:32 King James Version (KJV)
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

The problem is that the majority of people will not & do not even bother to seek the truth.

 

[nightsafari]

Quran is the Word of Allah. HE will guide u to the straight path i.e. if u follow his commandment. U will benefit this world and Hearafter too.

Btw do u know even by listening attentively to the recitation of the Quran, it can move u to tears? What more if u understand the meaning.

thanks for your input. when I am dead I will have plenty of time to spend with the ultimate power of the universe. when I am here, I will do my best to make my time and the time of those who cross my path the best I can make it. In the meantime, with my human eyes and human brain, I think it's useless to go looking for something we will automatically find when dead.

all I have found in all my searching with my human self is the writings and works of other humans on this planet. and yes many works of humans have moved me to tears. many. and most of them have no meaning at all for example a piece of music and amongst these works of humans I count scripture. To me saying you can capture the essence of the ultimate power in the universe in scripture is the product of the arrogance of humanity. you may be able to simulate it with manmade and created words, but it is not the same.

but I will confess if you choose to believe me, that one day some years ago I had an experience like no other and there were no words exchanged, or thoughts or scripture or music or prayer. just a feeling. and the feeling was so powerful that I was sure that it was not of this human world. and that time, tears came out of me like a river, they were not sad or angry tears, but tears of joy and disbelief that such an amazing thing could exist. it was a regular afternoon with nothing happening at all, but I chanced to meet my maker. once I came back to my senses, everything else on this planet seemed false. all that may have moved me to tears doesn't, but things that shouldn't do. only the feelings of other beings have an effect on me now. believe or disbelieve as you will.

thanks anyway!